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Morning Brew: Strike Summary, Strippers, Soakers, Safety, and a Slimeball

Posted by Jerrold Litwinenko / July 30, 2009

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What's happening in the GTA (and sometimes beyond):

In strike news, inside workers at CUPE Local 79 have ratified. Here is s a summary of the deal. Giving in and allowing them to grandfather their full sick day banking privileges is what many people think will be the reason for Mayor Miller's demise. Outside workers at CUPE Local 416 are expected to ratify today and possibly be back to work tomorrow. Here's what to do with your garbage in the meantime.

A 62-year old customs official who was working at the US consulate here in Toronto was sentenced today, after being found guilty of accepting illegal gratuity. His gratuity for fast-tracking visa applications? He was given jewelry and a trip to Vegas with (not one, but three!) Brass Rail strippers. Awww yeah.

A water main break yesterday morning caused flooding and an estimated $25,000 in damage to the Flatiron & Firkin pub on Wellington Street. Who's responsible? Things out of our control do happen, and when they happen in the early morning hours, the response is expected to be slower than during the work day. But should it take the city a full hour to turn off the water when it's spewing onto the street?

The fences are already up, and people are already at odds on the issue. Should fences be erected along the Caribana parade route to keep parade participants and observers safely divided, or should their be no fences and a lot more interaction and spirit (and risk, I guess) to the event?

And we can forget about Phoenix. It's not going to happen. Apparently RIM CEO Jim Balsillie is short on one or more of these criteria outlined by NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman: "financial wherewithal, character, integrity, and the view as to whether or not the other owners would deem you to be a good partner."

Discussion

44 Comments

Torontoniana / July 30, 2009 at 08:41 am
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A big "YES" to fences along the Caribana route!!! As well as more police on the streets... I've worked in TEC for 5 years and we ALWAYS had shop lifting/fights/rude tourists from US during the Caribana week. I think this festival is a safety threat!
LS's Lover / July 30, 2009 at 09:16 am
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I think we need barbed wire and the military to keep Caribana under control. Everyone should also be handcuffed and shackled to their floats so nobody tries anything funny. Cant trust anyone these days. Strap some garbage to those floats and end the parade at the dump...that'll solve two problems at once.
?? / July 30, 2009 at 09:22 am
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People still care about Caribana?
I didnt even know it existed anymore.
No advertising?
Oh well...will give them CUPE jerks a way to practice their garbage cleaning skills they probably have forgotten over the past 6 weeks while sitting on a park bench "picketting".
conscious / July 30, 2009 at 09:25 am
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sounds like Bettman prefers the iPhone...
jamesmallon / July 30, 2009 at 09:31 am
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Fences? Don't we need bulletproof glass?
keven / July 30, 2009 at 09:33 am
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They don't need fences along the parade route. Caribana is all about participation of the floats and spectators, it's not the santa claus parade where people just sit atop their float and wave at people.
Ratpick / July 30, 2009 at 09:37 am
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Fences between the parade and spectators? Oh, Toronto. How embarrassing.

DS / July 30, 2009 at 09:42 am
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Who fences off a parade? Give me a break.

Jonathan / July 30, 2009 at 09:43 am
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Oooh Caribana! The one time of the year it's socially acceptable to make jokes about the blacks being savages! Get them in while you still can folks!
Dawn / July 30, 2009 at 09:47 am
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re: fences
Embarassing indeed! The whole experience with Caribana is being close to the floats and dancing along with the people. How boring to have to just stand there and watch.
jamesmallon / July 30, 2009 at 09:47 am
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"The blacks" are not "savages", but there ARE a few savages among among the crowd with guns, and every few years one of those tools decides to use theirs. That is simply fact. For that reason I never go, just as I do not hang outside big vulgar clubs on Richmond at 2 a.m.
Samantha replying to a comment from Dawn / July 30, 2009 at 10:05 am
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there are fences at the other big parade in toronto, PRIDE. and we still seem to be able to dance and participate!

The floats are big, people get crazy, i have a young child. the fences mean we can go and enjoy the parade. And we haven't had any trouble with dancing and being close with people.


BarbedWire. / July 30, 2009 at 10:13 am
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Its all about crowd control.
1 million people + booze = trouble.
Black, white, etc. Doesnt matter.
There are idiots in every bunch and for whatever reason 1 or 2 idiots will have guns on them.
So fence people back as much as necessary to ensure safety.
To hell with the whole "parade experience". Thats a damn myth.
Ryan L. / July 30, 2009 at 10:22 am
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I've never been to the parade because it always happens when it's something like 35°C outside.
RBeezy replying to a comment from jamesmallon / July 30, 2009 at 10:31 am
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Gotta love Caribana, it gives a good reason for jackasses like yourself to spew your vitriol.

Any time you have 1 million+ people in one area, you're bound to have some static. That goes for gay people, straight, Mormons or Jah forbid, black people.

The fence issue is a non-issue that has surfaced time and again since the parade route was switched to the Lakeshore from University Ave. Why's it surfacing again? Slow end to the news week perhaps? *shrug*

jamesmallon / July 30, 2009 at 10:55 am
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RBeezy, if you could read, you'd see that I made the same point as you. Whatever.
NewRoads / July 30, 2009 at 12:00 pm
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Public safety has to be the priority. If that means fences or barriers then fence it up. History has proven the instability of massive gatherings such as this. As RBeezy says, you're bound to get some static in such large groups.
keven replying to a comment from Samantha / July 30, 2009 at 12:05 pm
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There isn't a comparable amount of audience participation at any other parade in this city, pride included.

>The floats are big, people get crazy

That's caribana in any other country too! The parade shouldn't change cause you have a kid, sorry. Don't bring your kid if you're so worried.

Jus sayin' is all...
Stu / July 30, 2009 at 12:47 pm
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They put fences and barriers up at Carnival in Brasil.
BorderJumpers / July 30, 2009 at 12:55 pm
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All this "parade" is is an excuse for 17,18,19 yr old Americans to come up here and drink anyways.
They are more concerned with their Escalades and our high percentage beer than anything the parade stands for (i.e. culture).
So yes, we are better off keeping certain transients fenced off to help control any static.
RBeezy replying to a comment from jamesmallon / July 30, 2009 at 01:12 pm
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I'm sorry, I was too busy perfecting my shotta stance in the mirror in preparation for this weekend's festivities. You said something about what?
keven replying to a comment from Stu / July 30, 2009 at 01:12 pm
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They don't in Trinidad and Tobago which is the largest and most well-known celebration of Carnivale.

Our Caribana here has its origins in the carnival traditions of the Caribbean, notably Trinidad and Tobago.
keven replying to a comment from BorderJumpers / July 30, 2009 at 01:16 pm
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Carnivale or Caribana do not stand for 'culture'.

It's the last opportunity to celebrate and to use up special foods before Lent, in its origin. It also spans across several cultures, such as Italy, Portugal, Greece, Spain to name a few.

The reason why people drink and party at this parade is because during Lent, you give up these things.
Louis Armstrong / July 30, 2009 at 02:00 pm
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anytime you have more than 1 person in a comments area, theres bound to be static.

Bring dryer sheets.
Louis Armstrong / July 30, 2009 at 02:01 pm
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anytime you have more than 1 person in the comments section, theres bound to be static.

Bring dyer sheets
Sal475389 / July 30, 2009 at 03:00 pm
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I dislike going to Caribana ever since they moved in down to the lakeshore. It feels seriously weak down there. I would much prefer it if they held it in a community in the city.

I've been to Carnival in London a few times and it's a million times better IMO. A lot of people from the neighborhood come out on the side streets and cook. On the lakeshore it just seems to have lost it's heart...
Samantha replying to a comment from keven / July 30, 2009 at 03:20 pm
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Awwww Keven, I have been missing you.
Web Geek / July 30, 2009 at 03:22 pm
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Break out the bullet proof vests!
keven replying to a comment from Samantha / July 30, 2009 at 03:28 pm
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lol... I lurve you too ;)
BorderJumpers replying to a comment from keven / July 30, 2009 at 03:48 pm
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Thats all well and good...but that doesnt apply to Toronto's version of Caribana/Carnivale. As its months removed from Lent.
Outside of a couple nice costumes and steel drums its simply a way for those American kids to come up here and go to the clubs, drink the strong beer, and basically cause a weekends worth of mayhem.
keven replying to a comment from BorderJumpers / July 30, 2009 at 04:03 pm
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So are you as homophobic with Pride as you are racist with Caribana?
Same thing happens there :P
keven replying to a comment from BorderJumpers / July 30, 2009 at 04:08 pm
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p.s. it does still apply. However Lent in Toronto is during winter, not much point in a carnivale parade in the winter. It still isn't about 'culture' like you're claiming it to be.

educate yourself.
BorderJumpers / July 30, 2009 at 04:10 pm
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Not quite sure where I ever referenced this as a black/white/gay/str8 thing?
I said all this parade has become is a reason for young Americans to come up here drink, carouse, etc.
I dont see things in colors/orientations like you seem to.
keven replying to a comment from BorderJumpers / July 30, 2009 at 04:17 pm
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I'm just asking you if you see a problem with Pride? Same thing. People come up here to party, from all around the world. (there aren't only American's at Caribana, we have family coming from Trinidad for it).

It's a CELEBRATION... you ever heard of those? You ever been to one?

You seem to have a real problem with Caribana and I can only assume it's cause you're a racist. Why else would you care?
BorderJumpers / July 30, 2009 at 04:24 pm
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Thats quite a big assumption.
I could care less if its Pride (which wasnt the parade of topic here) Caribana, St Patricks Day, Santa Clause, etc.
What citizens dont like are the people who come here for all the wrong reasons. And in this parades case its quite a few young Americans coming not for the "celebration" in the least. Your family is coming for the right reasons thankfully. But there is a huge group who wont even come close to seeing one minutes worth of the parade.
keven replying to a comment from BorderJumpers / July 30, 2009 at 04:26 pm
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...speaking of pretty big assumptions :P
conscious / July 30, 2009 at 04:28 pm
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This kneejerk "i call racist" reaction to keywords "Caribana" and "fence" is funny, and completely idiotic. And funny.
BorderJumpers / July 30, 2009 at 04:30 pm
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not in the least. But neither you nor I have any statistical data to prove it either way.
You can assume everyone that comes up here is coming for the parada, sure. Thats a rosy outlook indeed.

Samantha replying to a comment from BorderJumpers / July 30, 2009 at 04:48 pm
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Well, they moved the parade to Aug long weekend for a reason, nobody wants to parade half naked in Toronto in Early Feb.

Tourism dollars are sadly needed, so who cares WHY they come?

The sad truth is that there have been shootings at Caribana in the past, but not, during the parade, if I recall correctly.

People joining the parade from the spectators slows it down, and it's dangerous, and some people who pay to be in the parade find it irritating. (or so i have read)

these fences are not new, this conversation happens every year.

I pray for good weather, good energy, and an eventful, yet event free, Caribana Celebration.
Brad / July 30, 2009 at 05:08 pm
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Wow the racist comment gets thrown around real easy
Deryck / July 30, 2009 at 05:36 pm
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I think it's about time something is being done about the non-paraders, aka spectators, at Caribana.
I've gone down there for many a year and the same thing happens, year after year. Things start off well and controlled, but 3 hours into things, spectators decide that they belong on the parade route, instead of behind the crowd control barriers. Once that starts, it spreads to the point where the street gets completely jammed and the bands on trucks and those in costume can't even move. Things come to a standstill.
As a person that actually wants to see the costumes and see the bands jump up, I end up with nothing more than something similar to watching 40,000 people filing out of SkyDome in the Blue Jays heyday years. Yeah, that's loads of fun to watch.
I get the idea that people want to party and have fun and dance, but has anyone noticed the amount of space available between Lakeshore and the actual lake? Or on the other side of Lakeshore? It's not like the place is cramped, and it's not like the music is too soft that you can't hear it a mile away. So why the need to hop the fence? There's nothing more I hate than having people behind me asking me to open the fence in front of me so that they can go out on the road. And worse, when everyone on the road stand right in front of you so that you can't even see what's going on.
And the worst part is, there's a good chance that the people who complain the most about these new fences are the ones that probably helped contribute the conditions to which they are now becoming necessary. I don't like them as much as anyone else, because yes, it does take away from the spirit of the day, but could anyone not see this coming?
RBeezy replying to a comment from Brad / July 30, 2009 at 05:37 pm
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when the talk goes from parade and fences to savages and bullets it's not that hard to connect the dots.

so BorderJumpers, if a world class parade with music, costumes, food, dancing and tourists isn't culture, then what's YOUR definition?
Michael / July 30, 2009 at 07:56 pm
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Caribana has been fenced every year that I've been there (last four), so I don't know what the fuss is about now...

There are a shitload of people there. Tons. Asshole to elbow, cheek to jowl, whatever phrase you want to use. Packed in like sardines. And that's on days that have been very very hot, not ideal weather at all. If the weather is actually nice, I shudder to think how many people will be there.

I doubt the parade floats could move forward at all if the route wasn't fenced off.
mike / July 30, 2009 at 10:16 pm
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Headline: Man jumps fence to join float, falls in front of truck, now leg must be amputated.

http://www.thestar.com/article/245330

But by all means, have tens of thousands of people crowd around heavy moving machinery, what could possibly go wrong!

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