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The Bike Stand To Rule Them All

Posted by Tim / April 17, 2009

Bike Stand TorontoEarlier today Mayor Miller, Adam Vaughan and a number of other dignitaries gathered at OCAD to reveal the winner of the school's Gateway Bikestand Challenge. 35 designs were submitted, then whittled down to ten and, today, one bike stand remains and will soon have a new home at 226 Queen St. West.

The winning design (above) was submitted by Justin Rosete (second-year Industrial Design) and
Erica Mach (second-year Drawing & Painting), both OCAD students and I have to say I'm a bit surprised, mainly bacause it doesn't look to be that functional, especially when compared to some of the alternatives. Torontoist had a look at the final 10 back in March. Which one do you think should have won?

Discussion

41 Comments

jack / April 17, 2009 at 01:30 pm
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what am i not surprised that the most conservative design won...that's canadians..conservative and boring..
jamesmallon / April 17, 2009 at 01:45 pm
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The open circle, by Michael Pham, is both the most practical and elegant, and likely most economical. What a shame. The model they've chose can't be wood, can it? That'd be too dim even for this town. Don't see why the orginal model can't be backed-up with a ring on both sides. I've even seen a one-piece cast model, that should be stronger than a two-by-four.
Johnson / April 17, 2009 at 01:47 pm
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Wood? Brilliant. No need to worry about busting open a lock anymore; now you can steal my bike with one swift kick.
Jerrold / April 17, 2009 at 01:50 pm
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If they were wood, thieves would need only a lighter or a tiny saw to steal bikes. Awesome.

It's not easy to really determine the scale here, but to me it looks like these stands are 10feet or more tall. Why would we want to clutter the visual landscape with tall boards like that?
KSD / April 17, 2009 at 01:51 pm
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Very disappointing actually...some of the other designs were so much more fun and engaging...and yes, I don't see the functionality of these as entirely useful...
Carbonman / April 17, 2009 at 01:53 pm
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if it's only for show, then yeah. otherwise... not quite. Agree with jamesmalloon about the open circle design - simple, elegant, practical (ie. it would actually work).
m / April 17, 2009 at 01:53 pm
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The winning design is smart, it re-uses a lot of the old design but makes it difficult to pry the ring away from the post.

The wood will be covered in posters and staples, so reality will differ greatly from the rendering. That and its surface area is another place to "tag". Maybe people will paint leaves and squirrels on them.

Express(sion) made me laugh, and is a great idea. It should have won. (maybe the judges were worried about people kicking out the exclamation point).

The other good ones are Urban Relic (wavy line) and Michael Pham's circle.
oterry / April 17, 2009 at 02:08 pm
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Sure the winning design looks great but I think "Art History Movement" by Jaeho Shin and Michael Pham's (#6 in the list) were designs better suited to actualy being used by people who need to lock their bike somewhere. I don't how Justin and Erica justified their design but it seems as though it has very limited space to attach a bike to and would appear to restrict the ways a bike could be locked to it. Do most people lock their bike to the ring part? What about odd things like baskets? kids' bikes, people who lock to centre post, etc. This design doesn't allow for a lot options. The wood post will make a great surface for ads. Perhaps that's why it was chosen.

But I can't see how most of the submissions - including the winning entry take into account the actual shape of a bicycle. The best shaped structure to lock a bike to would be shaped like a bike. That would be very practical but not as sexy as the winning one.
Greg Smith replying to a comment from Johnson / April 17, 2009 at 02:14 pm
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Surely it would be some kind of "engineered" laminate wood product. Yer not gonna Bruce Lee through that.
jamesmallon replying to a comment from Jerrold / April 17, 2009 at 02:17 pm
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"To me it looks like these stands are 10feet or more tall. Why would we want to clutter the visual landscape with tall boards like that?"

So the city can cut another deal with Astral to sell advertising!!
A|Layton / April 17, 2009 at 02:29 pm
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Most of the are pretty interesting designs...but completely impractical. Id have to agree with Jamesmallon about the circle. Definitely the most elegant, practical, realistic, and cheapest to manufacture. Oh...and it'd actually be possibly to lock your bike to it!
Greg Smith replying to a comment from oterry / April 17, 2009 at 02:30 pm
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<a href="http://www.toronto.ca/bug/combat_theft.htm";>The City's diagram</a> shows a U-lock around both the post and the ring. I remember being told that locking to the post was better than the ring... but I'm no cyclist, so I don't know from practicalities.
Stephanie / April 17, 2009 at 02:40 pm
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Why does form seem to win over function 99.9% of the time? Where do you lock your bike? How many bikes can be locked to it? I slip my ulock through my wheel and the frame, looks impossible to do in this design. I guess the city wants to make it easier for thieves. Ditto on the circle, practical and functional.
Ratpick / April 17, 2009 at 02:47 pm
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A puzzling choice that will clutter the streetscape.

A simpler modification on the current ones -- is that too difficult?

Laura / April 17, 2009 at 04:09 pm
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Thumbs down on the winner here - it'll be tagged and postered in no time or sawed off. The open circle was elegant and practical. My second favourite was expressions.
Born&RaisedInTO / April 17, 2009 at 04:38 pm
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Street garbage/recycling bins, more designated bike lanes, bike racks (my Old Skool term)...when is the City ever going to get something right?
KL / April 17, 2009 at 05:46 pm
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Luckily these will only be at Queen and McCaul.
TN / April 17, 2009 at 07:01 pm
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Compared to the rest of the designs it is probably the least interesting of them all. Yes, it will be tagged & postered and perhaps then it'll bring it some life.
...on second thought probably not.

chephy / April 17, 2009 at 07:30 pm
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Wow, this is AWFUL! This is almost worse than the infamous wheel-bender racks. With most current designs I'm able to get a U-lock through the rack, the frame and the front wheel. With this design, there are very few ways in which you can attach the bike to the post. I can imagine some bikes (say, kids bikes) won't even reach the bottom of that ring. Some locks would not function (the smaller U-locks). The pedals will scratch the hell out of the wooden base (WOODEN??? WTF? all you need to steal bikes now is a saw). Graffiti "artists" will get busy tagging them fast, and I'm sure a bunch of paint will end up on the bikes of those unlucky chums who actually use this idiotic rack. Wow, whoever designed it has never locked a bike to anything in his/her life, and did not think to ask actual cyclists about what's important in a rack. What a dimwit.
Bubba / April 17, 2009 at 07:47 pm
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from the illustration above it looks like they will have a wooden post
to lock your bike to. is that what we really need more wooden posts on our sidewalks? why not just use existing telephone poles.
D*Rock / April 17, 2009 at 08:25 pm
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I am in favor with the look and function of this bike post. But i would bet there is a metal plate insert that will stop from the mutilation of this stand. Also the mixing of the two materials makes for a whole lot of work if you were planning on stealing this bike..... unless of course you went straight for the chain! meh... design
Mary / April 17, 2009 at 09:17 pm
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I think the idea is great, the wood is most likely engineered so its probably equivalent to the strength of steel.
cee / April 18, 2009 at 12:00 am
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so they picked the least functional, creative, and boring out of those 10...

no surprise there.
DJ / April 18, 2009 at 12:30 am
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Zero, count them, ZERO plazas in my Scarborough neighbourhood have any bike racks, posts, or anything safe enough to lock a bike to. I don't care what it looks like. Please.... how do we get these outside of downtown???

SCREWFACE / April 18, 2009 at 01:51 am
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peace & love ...
nonono / April 18, 2009 at 02:58 am
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these are horrible...
ah man... / April 18, 2009 at 03:04 am
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do these people even ride bikes... Thats why OCAD design students should not be trusted with ANYTHING! The only utilitarian post in the whole bunch is #6 (Pham)... Its a crime that he did not win....
Japhet Bower / April 18, 2009 at 06:13 am
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Shitty design. Those loops look pretty small, what's the scale on this thing? Maybe it's just me but I don't loop my chain through my tires so this seems like a pain in the ass.
Rider5 / April 18, 2009 at 04:19 pm
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What's wrong with existing bike stands? Why anybody even needed this contest in the first place? Sure some of the designs look less boring that those that we can see on the streets now. But more or even equally functional? Not at all.

Out of 10 submissions open circle wins hands down.
Tom / April 19, 2009 at 10:08 pm
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All you folks yelling at the wood should really try out cutting through a 10x4 hardwood with their "tiny" or just shut the f* up. My saw would definitely have the word "Husqvarna" written on for that kind of plot.

Also, why do you assume that the internals of the woodplank thingie are NOT the good old ring-and-posts? I would manufacture 2 planks with the ring-and-post routed into it, sitck them on, bolt the thing together, cover bolts with wood inserts - here you go, covered the problem area, nice design, cheap solution to apply to all old things without having to dig holes and pour concrete.

I definitely agree on the open-ring-design and hope this guy gets the design sold to some manufacturer! For a new Installation, this thing rocks!

And i must say that the ring and the Woodplank looked to be the only designs that really seem to be designed with heart and brain and the real feasibilty in mind.

Tom
Extrodinaire / April 20, 2009 at 09:28 am
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Do you see thieves cutting down sidewalk trees when people lock to them? Gee and the metal ones we now use have a couple of bolts holding them together. This looks exactly like what we already have just taller.


Hey here's an idea more trees!! Put a plastic protector around the trunk and we can lock to it...
Adam / April 20, 2009 at 09:48 am
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Nice. Most practical and intuitive of all the designs submitted. Most of the others look like tripping hazards or would just confused people.

This one takes up a minimal amount of space on the sidewalk, has cues of the new AGO with the Canadian-esque metal + wood modern combo.
Anna / April 20, 2009 at 12:42 pm
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It has really been puzzling to me that no one else other than myself finds these things ridiculously ugly.

Also, they are just asking to get covered in posters and tagged all over. just saying
Anna / April 20, 2009 at 01:12 pm
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This style of bike rack (circle with a pole through the middle) is the same style that we already have, EXCEPT looks like there is less points to lock to becasue its not a full circle and the center post is too think. Why are we spending money on this, whats wrong with what we got?
Zaid Rasid / April 21, 2009 at 09:55 am
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I have to say I think all of those design are really beautiful. And the winning one is rather elegant!
jack / April 21, 2009 at 04:23 pm
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there are so many bikes in China, what bike stand do they use?
tryste / April 22, 2009 at 12:58 pm
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It sounds like many of you mistakenly believe that this new design is to replace all the current post and ring bike stands in the city. Let's be clear: this is not the case. This contest was for a "one off" section by Queen and McCaul and these collection of wooden posts will only appear there.
chris / April 23, 2009 at 12:16 am
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this is the most UN functional bike stand i have ever seen, worse than the one s in parkdale,

i will never lock a bike to this, EVER, (even at queen and mccaul) function is the key factor in design for something like this.

we need fewer lawyers and business men as politicians and more architects

GIANT failure by those involved

chris / April 23, 2009 at 12:30 am
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by the looks of it i dont even think the rings are at the right height for a standard bike
industrial designers should stick to what they know,

the competition occurred to close to the end of the architecture school students terms,
and must of been advertised mainly at OCAD, that explains that,

anybody with positive comments is obviously NOT a regular cyclist

Miller/Vaughan - EMBARRASSING
chris / April 23, 2009 at 12:41 am
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after a few freeze thaw cycles and salt (YES, did you forget we have winters) the wood will be UGLY and weak, get to know your materiality

and by the way I have cut through a 4x10 in less than 3 minutes with a sandvic handsaw. bike thieves will have a field day.
charlie / October 7, 2009 at 12:21 am
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Well, apparently, the designs were made by a couple of art and science students. They were majoring in drawing and painting. So I'm sure they understand functionality better than engineers. They had a really cool scale model of the 30ft tall thing too.

Does anyone know if the stands are still on McCaul? Or have they all been cut down?

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