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Rogers Gets Its 24 Hours News Channel

Posted by Tim / December 10, 2008

Rogers 24 Hours NewsIn the wake of the less than well-received Bills game and the passing of its founder, Rogers finally has a reason to celebrate today. Earlier this morning the CRTC finally made a decision approving Rogers Broadcasting's application for a 24 hour Toronto news channel.

Shocking news I know given that Rogers' Citytv juggernaut can't even find anything interesting to put on Breakfast Television. Now, with 24 hours to fill, how many traffic accidents and changing weather conditions can they possible cover? Perhaps they'll continue their current strategy of recycling day old story ideas from various un-named local blogs?

Of course, the decision to let Rogers try its hand at 24 hour news is not without controversy or repercussions. There is much speculation whether the city actually needs a 24 hour news channel given that more and more of us are relying on web-based sources to get our breaking news and information.

Then there's CTV's CP24 - Toronto's other (and currently only) 24 hour local news channel. (Previous coverage of their failed web launch here) It's pretty clear now that this station isn't going anywhere. There were some rumours that CTV might sell it back to Rogers but with the news today the possibility of the CRTC letting that happen should be pretty much nil.

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Discussion

46 Comments

RB / December 10, 2008 at 04:58 pm
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What "failed web launch" are you referring to Tim? Last I check their site was still alive and well. You trying to stir up another hornet's nest? I'm also curious as to where you're hearing these "rumours" of yours. Is Global paying you to bash CTV? I think I heard a rumour about that somewhere.
Jacob / December 10, 2008 at 04:58 pm
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CP24 is essentially CityNews, but CTV clung onto it and refused to sell it along with Citytv. (The CRTC dropped the ball on that, since CTV already has two 24 hour news channels.) Rogers just wants what was a critical part of Citytv back, so they're making their own.
Tim replying to a comment from RB / December 10, 2008 at 05:09 pm
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What's wrong with stirring the pot a little bit? :)
Daniel / December 10, 2008 at 05:19 pm
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Where's all the new features and stuff we were told were gonna happen on this site? I don't see much new on here other then some drop down navigation. Was it really needed? or just because YOU wanted to just like THEY want to have another channel.


(why always slamming the big media companies that you're always linking to?)

TORONTO GETS A NEW 24 HOUR NEWS CHANNEL.
Maybe we'll finally get a real 24 hours all news channel as opposed to a CP24 widget that's as indepth as having your own subway platform monitor at home (CP24) or better yet Elevator News Network.
Tim replying to a comment from Daniel / December 10, 2008 at 05:24 pm
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Ouch. I'm not sure I'm slamming them as much as I'm challenging or gently poking fun.

Btw, as I have written previously, we'll be continuing to roll out new features over the next little while. For a summary of what we've done so far you can check out this link:

http://blogto.com/announcements/2008/12/weve_made_some_changes_-_find_out_whats_new/
Torontonian / December 10, 2008 at 05:26 pm
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I hate to think that this will be to newscasting
what CFRB is to talk radio. Lots of nothing.
dictionary.com / December 10, 2008 at 05:35 pm
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juggernaut not juggernut ..c'mon, if you're going to be so critical, at least use spell check for your own articles.
Christopher King / December 10, 2008 at 05:43 pm
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CTV should sell CP24 to Rogers. At least then the former CityTV combo will be complete again, and maybe that will return some of the glory. Well, as much as a station that used to be a fantastic alternative can be when the CRTC bastiches allowed for it's sale to it's larger and stagnant competition.
Sean / December 10, 2008 at 06:17 pm
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Um, CITY wants a 24 hour channel? Again? They lied the last time. I recently saw them 'REPEAT OLD NEWS FROM 1988'!!! Geez. NY1 (New York 1 in NYC) got it right the first time, with no repeats from decades & century past.
CollegeStreet / December 10, 2008 at 06:40 pm
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Great. This is a positive. Nothing but complaints on this site. Competition is a good thing. If we can have a Newspaper war a Radio station War. Why not a TV news war? Let's do this Toronto... this is our site, this will be our more channel for use. Let's do this Toronto!! Who's with me!!
jack / December 10, 2008 at 06:41 pm
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maybe people from Time Canada Magazine can go work for them as the magazine folded today.. person of the year will be the last issue
Juggernut / December 10, 2008 at 07:02 pm
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Anything Rogers does will inevitably A. suck or B. screw the customer. Since this is theoretically free TV, they can't (directly) screw the customer. That leaves option A.


Whatever happened to Toronto1? Now it's Gareth Wheeler, a random and terrible gossip show and Danger Bay.
halo / December 10, 2008 at 07:03 pm
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Yes Time Canada closed if you even knew there was such thing as Time Canada.
Chicago Tribune has declared bankrupcy. LA Times is up for sale. All media is being hit. Tough times.
Bill / December 10, 2008 at 07:20 pm
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@Juggernut

Why such a whiner? Don't like it, change the channel. It's not tax dollars being spent on this. TorontoOne has come and gone, so what? What's your point?
Jerrold / December 10, 2008 at 07:47 pm
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I think the CRTC decision is sound. IMO, there's a lot of opportunity for someone to do better, especially online.

The animated weather icon on the front page says of CP24.com claims that it's -6C and sunny (it's now actually 7:30pm, the sun went down long ago). Anyone else subscribed to the CP24.com "Breaking News" Newsletter? It seems to only send out _emails_ when a gun incident, school lockdown, stabbing, fire, or tragic traffic accident takes place. If I wanted a police scanner, I'd get one. Where's the breaking news? Where's the RSS?! (dare I say Twitter?)

Yesterday I had CP24 TV on in the middle of the afternoon and every half hour (for a few loops) they kept cutting to Cam Woolley on the scene of a silly bus incident. They turned what could have been a 30sec bit into a long, over exaggerated, repeated piece with interviews and the whole bit. I was stunned.

My prediction: as far as online goes, CityNews (Rogers) already has CP24 (CTVgm) well beat. I suspect that CityNews' new 24h GTA-only TV news channel, if done as well, will also steal the thunder. Looking forward to seeing how this all falls out.
Elle Driver replying to a comment from Juggernut / December 10, 2008 at 07:49 pm
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Toronto1? Where have you been for the last 5 years? Bought out by Sun Media, It quickly disappeared, taking with it Ben Chin's television career.
Justin / December 10, 2008 at 08:30 pm
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Whatever they do with this channel, I hope they fix the volume so it's not sixty million decibels higher than everything else on the dial.
Trev / December 10, 2008 at 10:04 pm
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That, and Ben Chin is now a Liberal shrill. Yay! :(

I maybe one of the few bullish on both channels. While CRTC screwed Toronto by splitting up Citytv/CP24, I think both channels are finding their legs after the split.

That said, I'm waiting for Rogers to completely butcher the new Citytv studio.
papa / December 10, 2008 at 10:23 pm
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I can't say I always agree with Tim here (or anytime, for that matter) but breakfast television really does make me sick. the weather guy with his two weird ass pointing fingers and his love of all things pretty, the constant highway and ttc updates and the absolutely ridiculous exclusive breaking news stories they come up with at 6am is just too much for me to take.

it's why I broke up with my girlfriend who woke up to this stuff.

though dina is pretty hot. but it's not enough.
sammy / December 10, 2008 at 11:10 pm
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All morning shows are goofy. Why do you expect anything more from Breakfast Television, you're brain is half asleep at that time of morning anyway. Every see the ads they run for BT, how goofy they are, thats exactly what they're going for.

CP24 had its time, its good they put it out and its sat there ever since, time for something new
Bozack / December 10, 2008 at 11:17 pm
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Rogers is a great company. I don't know why some people are so hard on them. They are a business, a very successful one that employs thousands of Canadians. Rogers services are a privlage not a right. If you don't like them, thats fine don't subscribe to their services, and take your business elsewhere. The other company's don't always have what you want? Then you should be thankful Rogers offers them at all.

Ted Rogers admitted the iPhone launch rate plans were a mistake and took responsibility for it. They listened to the consumers after thousands spoke up and changed the plans after listening to the consumers. Isn't that great?
Jojo Chinto / December 10, 2008 at 11:37 pm
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Have any of you praising CityNews ever actually seen the ratings they get. They are DEAD LAST. Even CHCH channel 11 (E!) from Hamilton gets better numbers on their local news than CityTV does. CTV on the other hand is hands-down #1 in the ratings. If you ask me, CP24 is in much better hands with them in charge. That being said, so far CTV has kept CP24 at arms length from their other news offerings, with a completely separate staff/editorial, studio, website etc. The new CP24 is effectively only a few months old, but it already has a good head start over whatever Rogers is going to come up with. If the last few months have proven anything, it probably won't be long until CityTV devolves into OMNI 3, or worse another Sun TV.
Peter Silverman / December 10, 2008 at 11:42 pm
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Looks like CTV wasted no time in cutting ties from CityTV after this announcement. As of today CP24 has dropped its simulcast of CityNews at 6 on CP24 and has replaced it with "Toronto's #1 Newscast" CTV News at 6.

http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20081210/081210_cp24ctv/20081210/?hub=CP24Home
salgovernale / December 11, 2008 at 01:08 am
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cp24 should not be airing news from ctv. In the crtc application its says that cp24 will not take content from other ctvgm newsrooms. Basically cp24 is now really just a direct extension of ctv/cfto news. This means they dont have to hire people to generate news they just grab it all right from the ctv newsroom. This mean less jobs and less diversity in the landscape of local Toronto News . How can the crtc let his happen?????
Joey / December 11, 2008 at 01:41 am
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I assume by giving Rogers its own 24hr news channel this voids the previous requirement by the CRTC to keep CP24 and CFTO apart... at least that seems to be how CTVGM is interpreting it. It's only fair I guess.
out.west / December 11, 2008 at 02:52 am
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From what I heard, the decision to run the CFTO show at 6pm came within the 5pm hour. Besides, if you were in charge and you were responsible for the number 1 newscast in Toronto, what would you do? Potentially lose ratings on CFTO by creating "CP24 at Six" or "Live at 6" or add them from CP24 by simulcasting the CTV News?

Keep in mind that CP24 has it's own trucks, reporters and management team, as was said above. I haven't seen a lot of crossover (besides tonight's simulcast, or the shared use of Chopper 9/24), which does surprise me. To be honest, I fully expected CP24 to be renamed and merged with CFTO/CTV News sometime in the fall of this year. I expected a full "Farewell CP24" special before a relaunch and a handoff to Agincourt.

Of course, with this CityNews channel launching and the economy being the way it is, not to mention the recent cost-cutting at CTVgm...ya never know.
Chris Orbz / December 11, 2008 at 03:24 am
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Rogers suddenly deactivated my service today and redirected all my calls to them. I had to spend 20 minutes yelling at them in the freezing cold, it was terrif.
sippy / December 11, 2008 at 08:03 am
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Rogers = you're doing it wrong.
Biff Naked replying to a comment from Jojo Chinto / December 11, 2008 at 08:27 am
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Your info is wrong. CityNews is usually number 2 in this market, neck-and-neck with Global. All three - CTV, Global and City lost viewership in the past year, but City has lost the fewest, percentage-wise. City is the only exciting media company in this market right now. CH is all but dead, Global is so poor, it's counting pens and CTV is terrifed (they just laid off dozens). Let's see who watches CP24 after BT is pulled off.
Juggernut replying to a comment from Bill / December 11, 2008 at 09:13 am
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That local Toronto channels don't have much of a shot. Sarika Sehgal couldn't save Toronto1, I can't see Rogers doing any better.

Watch them bump BBC World or something so they can carry their new channel lower on the dial.
Teh / December 11, 2008 at 09:26 am
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Bring back Harold Hosein!!!!1
Anonymous / December 11, 2008 at 09:55 am
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somebody please give Amber MacArthur her own show back

its the only thing worth watching on cp24 when it was on there

Joe / December 11, 2008 at 10:02 am
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Amber IS back on CP24 now.
Anonymous / December 11, 2008 at 10:16 am
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Amber might be back on cp24
but try finding any video of hers on the horrible http://www.cp24.com/ website

Neil / December 11, 2008 at 10:39 am
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CTV is bleeding money and jobs. Rogers isn't. Rather than seeing Rogers' new 24-hour, Toronto-only news station as competition for CP24, it only makes sense that CTV will use this news as an 'out', and either sell CP24 to Rogers, or fold it. Rogers is already filling Breakfast Television and CITY news with news hits from their radio stations and magazines, and Rogers new 24-hour station will just be another vehicle through which to consolidate their media product.
Mead / December 11, 2008 at 10:53 am
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a) Almost none of the CTV job losses came out of the newsrooms, they were Muchmoremusic and Startv. More to do with further restructuring after purchasing CHUM then with the recession. In the meanwhile, a large handful of Rogers layoffs came directly out of the Citytv newsroom since (as has already been made clear by Rogers) Citytv has not made them one dime yet and they needed to cut the fat

b) Citynews has been a distant fourth for many years. Perhaps your thinking of LAST year when their numbers were getting closer to Global's but in the last six months, their numbers (along with City's entire primetime schedule) has plummeted. Right now Citynews at 6 gets about 75,000 viewers a night (which in case you don't know is absolutely terrible and is roughly the kind of numbers you'd get in Saskatoon, and NOT the country's biggest market.

Anyone trying to convince themselves that Citytv is in some amazing position to "knock off" CTV is living in a dreamworld. Canwest may be hemmoraging money, but they are still by far and away number 2 and the biggest competitor, which raises the question: Why would the newsshow with the WORST ratings, get it's own news channel?
Anonymous / December 11, 2008 at 11:06 am
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the real news battle begins when rhere is real breaking news
and the tv people have to be outside somewhere for hours and hours
doing live tv

sarasa / December 11, 2008 at 11:13 am
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keep in mind, citytv news was fourth place by combining the numbers they got from cp24

now that they aren't playing on it anymore, are they even going to be able to sustain enough viewers to keep going?

and viewers don't switch over. if they wanted to watch citynews on citytv they would have watched it on citytv, they aren't retards. if they were watching cp24, they watched it for a reason. same goes for the God awful breakfast television
Neil / December 11, 2008 at 11:42 am
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@ Mead:

a) The CTV cuts affected mostly Much and StarTV, however there were cuts in the newsroom. The fact that CTV announced that "virtually all" of the 105 cuts were jobs in Toronto means that a number of people at the network and CTV Newsnet would have been laid off. Of the 100 job cuts at Rogers, 8 were CityTV staffers, more than 20 were from the Blue Jays, and almost 50 were from the publishing division.

b) The battle for 24-hour-Toronto-news-channel supremacy, if there is to be one, will have almost nothing to do with which parent network (CTV or City-TV) is better, or more successful. It's all about which parent company (CTVglobemedia or Rogers Communications Inc.) is better poised to market their product, and withstand a challenge. Rogers is in much better financial shape than CTVglobemedia.
acer / December 11, 2008 at 01:34 pm
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@ Neil

2 people were laid off at CTV News Toronto. 1 was laid off at Newsnet.

EVERYONE else was from former CHUM stations.

CTV is short on money because of the Olympics and the CHUM purchase, not from lack of ratings or ad money. They are doing quite well even with the recession.

CityNews has been dead last for at least a decade. CHCH still beats them on a regular basis. Global is #2 95% of the time. They don't share these numbers with Citytv staff of course.

They told them they were beating Global for 3-4 weeks, Then after a month City went back to dead last. Even CBC is biting at their heals.

So at this point CityNews has laid off about 20 people over the last 6 months (Silverman's team, JoJo, both entertainment reporters and a number of behind the scenes people). Whose newsroom is in trouble again?
Elle Driver replying to a comment from Bozack / December 11, 2008 at 06:45 pm
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"Rogers services are a privlage [sic] not a right."

Thank you for giving me the biggest laugh of my day!

You've actually got it backwards: having ME as a customer is a privilege for Rogers, and not a right. They should be thankful to get MY business. Dealing with a company who has a monopoly on digital services is not something to be "thankful" for. You're either a shill for Rogers, or you've been drinking too much of Ted's Kool Aid.
out.west / December 18, 2008 at 03:26 am
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Okay, so I heard that a rumour that cops got called to 299 Queen Street West b/c of some kind of altercation between a guy from City/Rogers and a guy from CP24/CTV.
Adam / May 24, 2009 at 05:15 pm
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let us not forget that it was CityNews and City TV that started the 24 hour news station CP24 and brought it to what it was today, City TV still has all the same people that made CP24 so successful behind the scenes and I think the CityNews channel will be great competition for CP24
Adam replying to a comment from acer / May 24, 2009 at 05:22 pm
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first of all the only reason CityNews laid off workers is because CTV was going to buy CHUM and wanted them to do so, just like canceling all the CityNews programs out west, CTV wanted all the ratings, when the CRTC refused CTV the ownership of City TV they were left with nothing and no money to fix the mess CTV created
Adam replying to a comment from Elle Driver / May 24, 2009 at 05:33 pm
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just for the record when Bell owned CTV (BellGlobemedia) they had the upper hand, the only thing Rogers was known for was Rogers Communications and Rogers Center, Rogers Media has been boosted because of their purchase of City TV and Toronto's #1 Morning Show, BT, and the only reason CTV has done so good so far is because Bell funded them, now that they only have themselves to count on they start messing around with the new stations they bought CTV now ownes 2 24hour stations, 3 music stations, bunch of local stations and radio stations like whats the point of STAR! without STAR! Daily
blah blah shut up about "bad ctv" / September 7, 2009 at 02:24 pm
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ctv is very good. and they only have 2 radio stations, NOT 3. What is their third?? 000.0 NO THIRD FM or 000 NO THIRD AM????? I don't know about you stupid people. Why don't you go to msn.ca and search CTV owned radio stations. Also try CTV's ratings. Also try Citytv's ratings. See it from everyone that CTV has ultimately the best news show, Canada AM isn't the best, and City has not so good of a news show, and BT is TORONTO'S #1 MORNING SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! And CP24 is the best breaking news channel. CTV has 2 all news channels not 3. 1 of the mentioned 3 is an all business channel. CP24, CTV News Channel(now called), and the buisness one is BNN(Buisness News Network). CTV should have Citytv. No clue why CRTC(the really crappy TV decision makers) made them sell it. Then City wouldn't be a on-their-own company that wants their own all news channel, they'd be with CTV and CP24. all I am trying to say is Smarten up CRTC and all you blog readers too. cops did not get called out to 299 queen west. city news channell i know will probably be in the dump. GO CTV!!! and my mom goes thru rogers for home phone and internet, cell thru bell, tv thru shaw direct tv satellite. I want all bell except TV. TV can be rogers. I don't want any more unreliable picture quality.

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