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Posted by Matthew Hayles / December 7, 2008

London Pro-Coalition SignsI spent about two hours shouting with 2,000 other freezing Torontonians at Nathan Phillips Square this past Saturday afternoon. Four times larger than the anti-coalition rally at Queen's Park, the Toronto Rally for a Progressive Coalition featured speeches by Stephane Dion, Jack Layton, and performances by Broken Social Scene. Leslie Feist was there, so was Bob Wiseman. The best the no-co staffers could manage was John Tory. Dorks.

Pro-Coalition Rally in TorontoThe air around City Hall was high-energy even before we arrived. Walking from Osgoode station we were getting honks and thumbs-up from passing motorists, and we didn't even have signs at that point. We just looked like people who were ready for some change.

There were volunteers handing out bilingual signs by the skating rink, the blue or red ones you see above. We grabbed three each and dove into the crowd. It was an elbows-needed kind of crowd.

Toronto Coalition RallyThe turnout was equal part hipsters and union labour. Canadian Auto Workers was there, alongside representatives from CAW Local 222 Youth. So was United Steelworkers. And with good reason - the day before GM announced it would lay off 700 more workers from its Oshawa plant.

I enjoyed both Stephane's and Jack's speeches, and the crowd laid on the "SHAME!" whenever Harper came up (which was often). Lots of photogs, lots of cheering and chanting, lots of cheering for both the NDP and Liberal leader, which you would not have expected even two weeks ago, having worked on Gerard Kennedy's campaign in a tight NDP-Liberal race (full disclosure is an important journalistic practice). Canadians, some of us, really can work across partisan lines in ways we haven't seen for 90 years. This is as much a coalition of unity as it is a Coalition for Change.

"Coalition for Change" wasn't the only Obama-ism being thrown around. I was rolling my eyes every time some new schmuck would start chanting "Yes We Can," and I wasn't the only one. Former This Hour Has 22 Minutes star and rally emcee Mary Walsh was quick to turn this in to "Yes We Can-ada," which you have to admit has some charm, but I mean really - are Canadians so far gone we can't even be Canadian when we're progressive?

Overall, Mary was a fantastic choice for emcee, but I was saddened to see her taking partisan barbs at Stephane Dion at a time when over 2,000 Canadians had come together in unity. It's like this - when you introduce Bill Clinton, adultery, cigars, and "depends what your definition of is is" are fully out. Serious faux pas, Mary.

Pro-Coalition Rally in Toronto

Pro-Coalition Rally in Toronto

See more photos and video of both opposing rallies.

Discussion

21 Comments

John Leschinski / December 7, 2008 at 04:54 pm
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I wouldn't be calling anyone dorks while taking up Stephan Dion, who can't even get the support of his own party, and Layton who got less seats then the separatists.
me replying to a comment from John Leschinski / December 7, 2008 at 05:12 pm
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John Leschinski replying to a comment from me / December 7, 2008 at 05:19 pm
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You've really opened my eyes, now I see the error of my ways!!! Thank you oh wise me!
Mark Dowling / December 7, 2008 at 05:48 pm
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In a city that elected coalitionists in 100% of the seats, any other relative turnout would be surprising.

@Matthew - you give "journalistic" full disclosure while retaining sneer. Has the Toronto Star made you an offer yet?

I wonder how many people at the rally actually believe coalitions can work, as I do, or are just grasping at the only way to get rid of the mailed fist inside the blue sweater?
o_O / December 7, 2008 at 07:54 pm
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In fairness to Walsh, there's just so many easy jokes to make about Dion. Aside from the usual mustache jokes, there isn't a whole lot you can say about Layton. He's done better than any other leader since the election.

What I'm curious about is why there was no attention given to Layton's mini-platform announcement at the Toronto rally. It was a little different than his election stump speech but he made it sound like the Liberal-NDP coalition had adopted all of the aspects of that part of his speech and it included a cap and trade model for environmental reform.
Mikey / December 7, 2008 at 08:33 pm
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We just had an election 7 weeks or so, ago and it's time to give Stephen Harper a chance to put a plan into action, or at least come up with a plan!
Stephan Dion is a joke and an insult to all politicians! He has no business being in politics and should step down as the wanne-be Liberal leader. Tomorrow wouldn't be soon enough! Whenever that moron, lame frog opens his mouth, he ends up putting both his feet in it, in his piss-poor English and dumb excuses for solutions!!
As for Layton, he's a moron without any plans or common sense. His party is backed by the Unions and everybody knows the damage that the Unions have caused in both Canada and the States!

This coalition is a farce and nothing more. Dion, the pea-brain and idiot Layton join forces with a bunch of brain-dead Separatists, is proof of their stupidity!! The Bloc Quebequois were elected ONLY in Quebec, so what right do they have to make decisions about the rest of Canada? None whatsoever!!

I say let Stephen Harper, the best man for the job, do his job and allow him to come up with a plan of attack to clean up the economy, which by the way, was caused by the war mongerer in Washington!! When the U.S. sneezes, the rest of the world catches their cold!! This economic mess is Worldwide, not just here in Canada! So, to all you pathetic losers who wasted your time downtown cheering on the 2 bozos, you will get nothing for your efforts!
Mikey replying to a comment from John Leschinski / December 7, 2008 at 08:43 pm
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Ain't that the truth! Layton's another one who should get out of politics and take his wife with him. Neither one is doing this city or country any good!!
Z replying to a comment from Mikey / December 7, 2008 at 08:56 pm
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Stewy / December 7, 2008 at 10:26 pm
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Mikey - perhaps you could remind us about "the damage that the Unions have caused in both Canada and the States". That is the usual rhetoric that is spewed to denigrate the NDP, and it usually backed up by accusers with no research or verified fact.

And yes, us "pathetic losers" may have "wasted" our time downtown, this was more than giving our support to Dion and Layton. There is a greater objective of a) supporting a brand of politics that is truly representative of the values of the majority of Canadians, and b) rejecting the hate and divisiveness that the Harper Conservatives can't help but promote.
gl smb / December 7, 2008 at 11:31 pm
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I don't disagree with you entirely, Stewy, but saying that the coalition is a 'brand of politics that is truly representative of the values of the majority of Canadians' is an enormous stretch.

I support the Liberals but I think the coalition would pull them too far to the left - I like them in the centre. The coalition was/is useful for checking Harper's hubris and giving him pause before he embarks on more partisan hackery, but its value doesn't extend much further than that. Harper is too free market/small government and downright mean, but to me that's no worse than the mindless populism and baseless platitudes of Layton. The coalition shouldn't be anything but a last resort for the Liberals and I'm glad they've begun to realize that.

Moderation and compromise are what make (made?) Canadian politics stable and relatively effective and the Liberals are at their best when they govern in that manner. Unfortunately it's shrill partisanship that rules at the moment, so the Conservative and NDP bases are having their day. It's too bad.

Feldwebel Wolfenstool / December 8, 2008 at 07:02 am
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Doesn't say much for Qannaddian "democracy" does it? Someone should remind the "coalition Taronntah", that we had an election, and the PCs' won. If the Libranos and Dippers need cash, tell them to mooch off their party faithful.
Mikey replying to a comment from Feldwebel Wolfenstool / December 8, 2008 at 10:30 am
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Right on to that, Feldwevel and so true. Stewy, the autoworkers in North America are/were paid over $50.00 an hour, some of them worked for three months, then faked injuries or illnesses and went on Worker's Comp or extended sick leave. The Unions GOT them those ridiculous and hefty wages and packages and now, look at the results. All Three Automakers are either in Washington or Ottawa Begging for huge handouts in order to survive. To that, I say, to hell with them, let them bail themselves out and not expect the taxpayers to do it for them!! They want to be greedy and stupid, make second rate cars that nobody wants, because they are poorly built, over priced and unreliable, then tough bananas!! People want quality, reliability and cars that are economical. The Japanese and the Germans offer such cars and that's what people are buying.
Manufacturing jobs have been lost and shifted to Mexico or other Third World countries, where they received all kinds of tax shelters and other freebies, to employ local workers at much lower wages, therefore increasing their profit margins and allowing them to compete.
Several years ago, Hyundai built a plant in Braumont, Quebec, hired thousands of workers to build their cars. Shortly after, the workers demanded more money, threatened to bring in a Union, so the Koreans got wise. They shut down the plant and moved their operations elsewhere!
Long before, B.C. voted for an NDP Government, which as everybody knows, is backed by the Unions and the Province almost went Bankrupt. The NDP never stood a chance there, ever since. Do we all forget the infamous Bob Rae, when he was handed power to Ontario? Of course not!! We handed that clown a rope and as expected, he hung himself!!
Want more proof? Do your homework!!
Jacob replying to a comment from Mikey / December 8, 2008 at 10:40 am
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Mikey: "He has no business being in politics and should step down as the wanne-be Liberal leader. Tomorrow wouldn't be soon enough! Whenever that moron, lame frog opens his mouth..."

"Frog"? You have no business discussing politics.
Corina / December 8, 2008 at 11:10 am
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Where would Canada be without lukewarm partisan politics? Probably the same place.
gywnn / December 8, 2008 at 11:47 am
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how about you mention toronto is largely a liberal/ndp city rather than conservative so should anyone be surprised more people showed up for the pro rally? no. i'm disgusted with blogto and their bias political views. you are not here to try and sway people with your opinions, but well done, you're just as bad as everyone else.
Mark Dowling replying to a comment from Feldwebel Wolfenstool / December 8, 2008 at 11:59 am
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@Feldwebel - the Cons didn't "win", as they didn't achieve a majority of seats (155/308). They were the least-losers.
uSkyscraper / December 8, 2008 at 02:52 pm
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Reading this post from the US, I was disappointed to see you mention Organized Labour as being behind much of the rally. Such events would have much more power if not tainted with the Union brush. As noted above, unions are very much part of the problem that has made Canada (and the US) uncompetitive and their presence is as much of a third rail for many people as separatists, especially if the supposed reason for "change" is based on current economic conditions.

To win support come January from the silent majority, Coalition 2.0 would be very wise to:

- Libs - have a new Liberal leader other than Dion as PM candidate. Ability to operate a camcorder a must.

- NDP - be very clear to separate themselves from the unions as far as being part of govt. Not a popular bunch. Many people were not terribly upset about removing the right to strike of govt service workers, for example. Leave them their rights, fine, but be sure to keep them out of the kitty if Canadians are to trust NDP'ers with federal policy for the first time. Be socially progressive but fiscally conservative, Jack, even if that means disappointing some of your Labour friends.

- Bloc - sign a statement of Canadian unity for the life of the coalition govt that that modifies their views on sovereignty to something more like rebalancing the federal-provincial relationship and less about outright separatism. Fight for Quebec's pork and rights, sure, that's your democratic perogative, but leave separatism in the past. This is a major shift but the Bloc has to recognize that they will never be able to really get much done if they don't move on. Otherwise the Conservatives will lean on the "palling around with separatists" crutch and not only with the coalition not make it, 1995 will come roaring back.

- All - hire some former Obama campaign folks to learn how grassroots political support is really done. Seriously good operatives. With the right network and funding in place, Coalition 2.0 would be in a much better PR position. All we hear here in the US is Conservative talking points.

That's my 2.53 cents (Cdn).
Mikey replying to a comment from Jacob / December 8, 2008 at 06:54 pm
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Mikey replying to a comment from uSkyscraper / December 8, 2008 at 07:13 pm
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All - hire some former Obama campaign folks to learn how grassroots political support is really done. Seriously good operatives. With the right network and funding in place, Coalition 2.0 would be in a much better PR position. All we hear here in the US is Conservative talking points.
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Point(s) well taken, uskyscraper, but what you folks there in the U.S. also have is a war mongerer, an International Terrorist who killed thousands of U.S. and Iraqi troops and civilians, all for the sake of world domination, which you no longer have!!
The terrorists involved with 9/11 came from Afghanistan and NOT Iraq, so Bush got his Geography all screwed up and now, look at the results!

Eight years later, you elect a wanna-be black President who Thinks he can clean up the mess and restore order to the States, all the while he will be dodging bullets and running for his life! That's one job nobody would want! There were three attempts on his life during his election campaign, with more to come, for sure!
Every country has it's problems, but whenever you guys sneeze, the whole world catches your cold and the mess is Canada originated from down South. You guys should learn to clean up your own back yards, rather than Dictate to every other country, 3rd world or otherwise, how to live their lives. As the Mexicans say and rightfully so, you guys leave your spoon, everywhere you go!
Some of you even claim that you own Canada, which is so far from the truth! The Arabs own 1/3 of your country, while the Japanese probably own more than their fair share!! Enuff said!!
aDub / December 8, 2008 at 09:51 pm
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Is anyone else offended by this talk of "seperatists?" The Bloc is a federal party whose members were voted in by fellow Canadians. Whatever their goals, don't they deserve a bit more respect than being demonized as "seperatists" before they open their mouths? It really seems that everyone thinks that all francophone Quebecois politicians want the creation of a sovereign french nation. It suggests a dangerous prejudice to me.
And personally, I like Dion. He's not in the least charismatic, but he seems to be very intelligent. I read most of his speeches in print before I heard him speak and I thought them to be quite good. He was also highly regarded in his previous role as Minister
of Intergovernmental Affairs. I would think this gives him a firm backing to anticipate how the Coalition might successfully function.
Mark / December 9, 2008 at 09:27 am
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With the autocratic, not to mention petty way that Harper personally decides policy, without consulting the relevant ministers, and regularly demonstrates his utter disdain for the electorate and its will, I would daresay that not one of those who support Harper would actually survive working for him. He is the embodiment of the classic "toxic boss" and a classic textbook case of a literal bully.

The coalition is not so much about holding power, nor about the nominal ideological positions of the respective parties. It is about creating a collaborative government, effectively a dialogue among the real majority of Canadians whom it represents.

We need to take a lesson from Obama - not about his ability to win elections, but rather his ability to show true leadership, which is about honest consultation and coalition building among those with opposing views.

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