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(Some) Trinity Spadina Candidates Debate in Kensington

Posted by Corina / September 29, 2008

Kensington Election DebateIt was interesting to see candidates vying for attention at the Trinity-Spadina debate held Sunday as part of PS Kensington. The incumbent NDP candidate Olivia Chow took on her competitors (except for the absent Conservative candidate Christine McGirr, who isn't much of a competitor in this riding anyway) to the background noise of the pedestrian festival, and at the mercy of the Kensington community.

The debate was hosted by Michael Louis Johnson in true PS Kensington form, out in the street and amongst the crowd. Heckling was not only allowed, but encouraged; however the candidates did well in trying to focus on relevant Canadian issues, and not merely their party's leadership concerns.

Trinity Spadina CandidatesThe set-up was absolutely Kensington, complete with a couch for the audience and capes for the candidates. One of the funnier moments involved Liberal candidate Christine Innes pleading with the crowd to let her speak, right before Michael Louis Johnson jumped in to support and encourage further outbursts.


Another humourous moment came when Innes stated that she didn't believe the economy was in as much trouble as everyone thought, and was met with one (very close) bystander's raucous laughter. Good times if you're not a Liberal supporter!

In general, as Green candidate Stephen LaFrenie pointed out, the Trinity-Spadina riding has shown the green initiative that all of Canada needs to keep moving towards. All three candidates were in support of exploring renewable energy sources, although Innes seemed fixed on the nationalization of oil, whereas LaFrenie resolutely stated that the future lay in our other natural resources. All three also opposed nuclear energy, although again Innes did not want to dismiss any potential opportunities.

Olivia Chow did seem to hammer home support for her husband Jack Layton, but her knowledge of community issues was very consistent and demonstrated her experience in this riding. She made an effort to address the problem of student debt, and did a nice job of linking our economic crisis with the overlooked value of a sustainable arts and culture economy - all very well received by the crowd.

Although Chow left the debate early, both NDP and Green party platforms came off as aligned in many respects, and LaFrenie did comment to Chow that he hopes the NDP will ensure responsible opposition to the majority should the vote fall that way. Overall, I was impressed with Chow's commitment to increase our focus on solar, wind and other energy resources, in addition to supporting infrastructure for bikes, transit and alternative transportation.

One interesting point came at very end, when the issue of proportional representation was raised by LaFrenie. Both the crowd and LaFrenie seemed to strongly support this idea, while Innes tried to warn of a well funded 'right wing' takeover and further division under the representation model. LaFrenie countered by stating that he does not believe Canada will vote for any extreme right wing take over, and that this fear was a lousy excuse not to change the system.

In an otherwise predictable debate, it was surprising to hear LaFrenie agree that although as much as 5% of the vote should be the minimum for proportional representation (the Green party holding only 4.6%), this was a much fairer way to represent the choices of the Canadian public. Since neither the NDP nor Conservative representatives stuck around long enough to hear this point, let's hope next time all the candidates make these intimate public debates more of a priority.

Discussion

18 Comments

gl smb / September 29, 2008 at 10:00 am
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I hope the green's and ndp split the irrational stupidity vote and Innes wins.
Christopher King / September 29, 2008 at 10:04 am
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Today is the 29th of September.
With the exception of a flyer from Christine Innes, and Olivia Chow visiting the ARA book sale last weekend briefly, I have seen none of the candidates yet make an appearance north of Bloor Street West.
o_O / September 29, 2008 at 11:09 am
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Chow knocked at my door a week and a half ago and I'm on Brunswick at Wells. Maybe she was on your street when you weren't home?
Danielle / September 29, 2008 at 12:38 pm
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I have to concur with Christopher. I live just south of Dupont and Spadina and all I've received is one flyer from the liberal candidate (by one of their volunteers), and he came by at 7:30pm on Friday evening and almost left without leaving me a thing.

While I DO see Olivia Chow out and about in the lower Annex, I've never seen her doing anything north of Bloor.
Val / September 29, 2008 at 04:14 pm
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I'm an independent candidate in this riding and nobody ever asked me if I'm interested in participating to this debate. I'm sure I'd have a few useful things to say given the fact that I'm a young immigrant and I share many issues with people in this riding.
Corina / September 29, 2008 at 05:07 pm
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That's a little unsettling Val but as an independent, I'd imagine you should be working harder at keeping your 'ear to the streets' - this debate wasn't a surprise to me, and I'm not even running in this election.
Dude / September 29, 2008 at 05:15 pm
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The behaviour of these left-wingers betrays their hypocrisy regarding principles of democracy. The way they shout down the speaker they don't want to hear.
guy lafleur stole my bike / September 29, 2008 at 05:30 pm
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I didn't hear about this either, but then I live north of bloor which is apparently a dead zone? I haven't seen any of the candidates either, which i'm sort of glad about. It would be awkward.
Ian Bailey / September 29, 2008 at 05:47 pm
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On the topic of NDP support for proportional representation, their platform says they will implement a proportional representation system.

The relevant part of the platform is available at:
http://www.ndp.ca/platform/otherpriorities/federalism

Not huge on exact details, though.
guy lafleur / September 29, 2008 at 06:01 pm
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"Not huge on exact details, though."

That's how they roll. The NDP deals in broad, vague ideas. Details are for chumps, like the Liberals, the Greens, the Conservatives and the Bloc.
Wayne Smith / September 29, 2008 at 06:22 pm
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Fair Vote Canada is holding a contest (with cash prizes) to guess how many of us will waste our votes this time on candidates who do not get elected: www.OrphanVoters.ca
Corina / September 29, 2008 at 07:40 pm
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I'm doing a round-up of electoral interwebstuffs and hadn't heard of that one, Wayne - thanks!
Ryan / September 29, 2008 at 10:27 pm
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Trinity-Spadina, if it wanted to be strategic in its voting to stop Harper and the Conservatives it would vote for a candidate that is actually going to stand up and vote against their right wing agenda.

Luckily we already have an MP who does that, send Olivia back to Ottawa!
Rick / September 29, 2008 at 11:23 pm
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"Although Chow left the debate early..."

I can just imagine the attacks that Christine Innes would have faced in this artice if she had left the debate early.
Corina / September 29, 2008 at 11:28 pm
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Did I really come off in attack mode? ;)

Maybe the crowd would have had something to say about it though... for the record, I thought Innes was well spoken and generally handled the questions gracefully.
rek / September 30, 2008 at 10:07 am
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Dude - It's rather disingenuous to imply "shouting down" is something only left-leaning people do, or that all leftists do it.

As for democratic integrity, it's Harper and his ultra-right Cons who violated their own fixed election date rhetoric (2006) by calling an election when it suits them, making every goddamned issue in Parliament a confidence matter (the Liberals are just as guilty for backing down) just to get their way, and their about-face on the issue of free votes.
Joseph Tesar / October 7, 2008 at 07:02 pm
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Thanks for the debate and video link.
It helps me make a decision.
Joseph Tesar / October 7, 2008 at 07:02 pm
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Thanks for the debate and video link.
It helps me make a decision.

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