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Pedestrians Learn to Scramble at Yonge & Dundas
Pedestrians in Toronto have a new way to cross the street at Yonge and Dundas. So now you can go from the AMC Movie Theatre to the Toronto Eaton Centre without having to wait at the corner by Forever 21.
The city's new Pedestrian Priority Phase crossing, unveiled this morning, enables people to get across the intersection in all directions, including diagonally. Also known as a Scramble Phase crossing, this method of crossing a busy intersection is already popular in many cities around the world including Tokyo, Japan and Aukland, New Zealand.
"We think it's a great idea because this intersection sees 100,000 pedestrians a day," said councillor Kyle Rae, who was on hand to help launch the initiative this morning, along with councillor Glenn De Baermaeker, who is also the head of the city works department.
"There is so much activity at this intersection," said De Baermaeker. "This will increase effectiveness and give a greater priority to pedestrians. It will make crossing the street faster, more efficient and safer for pedestrians."
How will Toronto pedestrians, cyclists and motorists take to the new signals? Continue reading for more photos and reactions to the new scramble crossing....
Noticeably missing in the intersection were lines that indicate crossing is possible in both diagonal directions. It looked like they were going to paint lines right across but stopped about six feet in.
Gary Welsh, general manager of the city's transportation services, said that they will monitor the operation and may still extend lines right across the road. There were traffic assistants on hand to initially provide help to pedestrians crossing through the intersection.
"I've seen this before in Washington, DC 15 to 20 years ago," said Harvey Goldenberg, a pedestrian about to cross the intersection. After crossing he observed, "Crisscrossing diagonally both ways, somebody's got to give way or they'll collide.
Goldenberg also thought this may pose a challenge for cyclists and drivers. "There's too many lights for a driver to look at. There's already too many lights to begin with at this intersection with all the flashing ads."
Katie Switzer, 18 (pictured above) thinks it's great for pedestrians. "It's crazy, but it's awesome. It reminds me of some parts of Paris or New York, where people are just walking everywhere."
"I think it's good because you don't have to waste your time crossing twice," said Michael Maier, 26, who is visiting Toronto from Munich, Germany.
But not every change of signal allows people the chance to cross this way.
The intersection alternates between regular signals and Pedestrian Priority Phase, or exclusive pedestrian phase. When Pedestrian Priority Phase is in effect, a red light is shown for all vehicles while the walk display is shown in all directions, including diagonally.
So you may have to wait for the light to change once anyway if you want to walk across the intersection diagonally. So much for saving a minute.
"What difference will one minute really make in your life," asked Uliana Edelman, 19.
Edelman just crossed the intersection diagonally with a fellow Ryerson University fourth year engineering student, Zo Khan, 21.
"I think it's stupid because it's not busy enough for a crisscross and it's worse for traffic," said Khan. "It's definitely better for pedestrians, but it's not needed. It might save you a minute."
Matthew Blackett sits on the 14-member Toronto Pedestrian Committee, which gave its approval and feedback to the initiative. "This is one of the few unique places in Toronto where pedestrians are number one," said Blackett. "Altough there's also an additional 28 seconds for cars, allowing them 80 seconds instead of 60."
Perhaps the biggest challenge was for the visually impaired. I observed an elderly man with a cane, aided by a woman, look around in confusion as people scrambled across the intersection in all directions.
"We waited and crossed the old way because it was easier," said Willa Lee, who helped partially sighted Davis McCarroll, 91 (pictured above) cross the street. "Once you get the rhythm of it, it makes sense, but I didn't want to take the chance."
They probably didn't hear the accessible pedestrian signals' voice say, "Walk sign is on for all crossing. Walk sign is on for all crossing." It's no surprise that it was drowned out by the cacophony of street noise.
I asked P.C. Mig Roberts of traffic services if he thought this new initiative was a success so far. He paused and hesitated before answering. "Any time the city can do something to enhance public or pedestrian safety, it's a step in the right direction."
This type of crossing was once known as a Barnes Dance intersection, named after Henry Barnes, a prominent traffic engineer, who was credited as the first to use this system in the United States in cities such as Kansas City, Denver, Baltimore and New York City.
The phrase Barnes Dance came into play after a newspaper article that stated "Barnes made the people so happy they're dancing in the streets." Other U.S. cities have followed suit, including San Francisco, Beverly Hills and Miami.
Here's a look at a scramble crossing in Shibuya, Tokyo:
Toronto has plans to implement this type of pedestrian crossing in intersections at Yonge & Bloor, Bay & Bloor and Bay & Dundas.
What do you think of the new scramble crossing? Does it improve the intersection? Does it confuse you? Do you think it's good for Toronto?
Photos by Roger Cullman.


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That crossing in Shibuya, right outside the Hachiko exit at the station, is one of my favourite places on Earth. I used to go there with friends and a couple beers, just watch people, and have the absolute best time.
This is why I dismiss any complaint cyclists have against cars - they cannot see that they are hypocrites.
Since pedestrians are now crossing during their own part of the cycle, it shouldn't slow down traffic to allow it...
It would make sense to allow right turns, except in this case pedestrians are allowed to cross as usual during vehicle phases.
A better way to do it may be:
- all cars on one road advance (and no pedestrians cross)
- all cars on the other road advance (and no pedestrians cross)
- all pedestrians advance (and no cars move)
- repeat
This is how the Shibuya crossing works (seen in the video above).
These past few months I've been trying to figure out how in the hell people were finding this confusing. Wait, wait, cross.
Now I see. w.t.f.
I used to scramble every day in a small city named Tallinn, Estonia (then part of the Soviet Union)! This - about 30 years ago!!!
The thing is, it's not just about saving pedestrians time. If that were the only reason behind it, it wouldn't have been built in the first place. It's about congestion at the corners and congestion on the cross across the street.
During busier times, a pedestrian will often end up outside the parallel lines due to the congestion, which, obviously, isn't exactly safe.
The northwest corner seems to be particularly problematic. The sidewalks there aren't designed for the traffic they get and I imagine most of the traffic is people waiting in between their trek to and from the NE and SW corners.
Really, it's hard to find people that appreciate (or understand) my enthusiasm for the half flush.
If it does work, then I nominate Bay/Front for the next one.
The one issue I have with this setup is that regular crossing is still around for green lights. Pedestrians should only be allowed during their turn and then the right turn restriction would be removed. That's the point of this. To allow cars to turn right without waiting for people to cross. That's how it will be at the other intersections.
@Pasquale and
@grumpy walker: thank you for stereotyping
Also, it's very easy as someone who lives downtown to act like you have no sympathy for drivers, that Toronto 'should be pedestrians first', ect. But hell, what is anyone really doing to offer an alternative to driving? Raising TTC fairs? Taking away parking for their cars? Offering a train that's more late than it is on time? Help the drivers out, give them REAL cost effective and convenient alternatives, and then we might get somewhere. Unfortunately the city just doesn't seem to get that.
It's not a useless novelty.
At times there are so many people bunching up to cross at that intersection that you can get pushed onto the street. It's dangerous, and that's why this was done -- to move more people faster.
I've read that 100,000 people use that intersection everyday...crazy!
@ Pasquale: "There shouldn't be much concern over what the cyclists will do. Many of them have no regard for traffic signals anyway; whizzing past red lights when pedestrians try to cross, ignorant that a collision may occur this way."
It would be almost suicidal for a cyclist to attempt to whizz through this intersection when the scramble phase is on. Did you see the cyclist attempt to clear the intersection in the Shibuya video?
If I were on my bike, I'd get off and walk it across, for fear of crashing into a pedestrian or three.
not stereotyping, just observing from my experience their yesterday... & walking is not really hard a concept, yet many people seem to have trouble getting it down...
Cost also -never- factors into it. People complain about the rising ticket prices for the TTC while at the same time paying insurance, payments on the vehicle, increasingly more on gas, maitenance, parking, etc. If cost was a factor, then you wouldn't be driving.
"Despite seeing so many people 'claim' that they both drive AND walk, I know this simply isn't the case. 'Drive and walk when driving becomes a nuisance' is more accurate."
Can this be rephrased so it's better understood?
Are you saying that people don't both drive and walk downtown? Obviously not at the same time. My primary downtown transportation is walking but I also drive, TTC, bike, rollerblade and unfortunately the odd cab ride. Quite frankly, people that only do one form of transportation have worthless opinions on transportation issues, in my opinion, as they generally will favour their method of transportation and not consider others.
And be sure to also check out some <a href="http://spacing.ca/wire/2008/08/29/pedestrian-scramble-time-lapse/#comments">awesome time-lapse photography</a> by <a href="http://wvs.topleftpixel.com/" target="_blank">Sam Javanrouh</a>.
I was in Tokyo for the better part of this month (August) and spent a good deal of time in Shibuya-ku. I made use of Shibuya Crossing several times during my stay and it wasn't scary at all. If you ever get the opportunity to visit Tokyo, the experience in Shibuya-ku is quite amazing.
Anyway, people are stupid, drivers are stupid, it'll be confusing and panicky for a while, but hopefully the scramble walk will be permanent and eventually gotten used to.
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