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Anti-gay Protesters a No-show at Summerworks Play

Posted by Roger Cullman / August 8, 2008

Toronto Counter-protest to Phelps in Canada, protesting Summerworks playOver 100 counter-protesters showed up to make sure that members of the Kansas-based Westboro Baptist Church were outnumbered at the launch of the Summerworks play, The Pastor Phelps Project: A Fundamentalist Cabaret, where they were purported to protest outside The Cameron House on Queen St. W. last night.

The Westboro Baptist Church gained notoriety for their anti-gay protests at funerals of people who died from AIDS. According to a press release on their website, godhatesfags.com, they're hoping to stage a protest in Winnipeg tomorrow at the funeral of Tim McLean, the man stabbed to death and decapitated on a Greyhound bus July 30.

Meanwhile, inside The Cameron, Corin Raymond and the Sundowners were in between sets during their regular Thursday night gig when some of the protesters outside came in for a drink, or to see if they could get in to the play.

Not missing a beat, Raymond launched into his second set, saying "We'd like to perform some religious material.... Is that a no-show for the Greensboro Baptist Church?"

Toronto Counter-protest to Phelps in Canada, protesting Summerworks playThe night's show sold out, thanks in part to the extra publicity. "We sell half the theatre by phone and online prior to the day of the performance and the rest one hour before the performance," said Avery Swartz, Summerworks publicist.Rev. Phelps Project at Summerworks causes protest outside The Cameron House

"Already 25 were in line at the door at 7 o'clock, so we had to turn people away." Tickets for remaining shows are still available, but you may have to line up an hour before the show, which runs until August 17.

Eva Haralambidis came to see the band, but was surprised so many people showed up. "It doesn't usually get so packed in here with people this agitated."

Raymond paused between songs to cajole the crowded bar, "Did you come for the riot, did you come for the show, or did you come for the beer?"

One of the disappointed theatregoers was Ray Fadel, 48, who just moved to Toronto from Florida last year.

"I'm sick of all the Jesus bumper stickers in The States," said Fadel. "Someone just told us about the play last night and I thought I'd check it out, but it's sold out."

One of the lucky ticketholders was Bea Pizano, 48, who was attending her third show of the day.

"I'm just interested in the show itself," said Pizano. "I love Summerworks because you get to see a variety of people telling stories in different ways."

Toronto Counter-protest to Phelps in Canada, protesting Summerworks playThe play in question is a complex piece of theatre, directed by Alistair Newton that aims to explore multiple sides of the controversial Westboro Baptist Church.

Toronto Counter-protest to Phelps in Canada, protesting Summerworks play

By the time the play began, it was obvious that the play protesters weren't showing up.

Toronto Counter-protest to Phelps in Canada, protesting Summerworks play"Phelps got turned away at the border," said P.C. Roger Bilinthorp of 52 division, who was among 10 police officers present the protest, to ensure it remained a peaceful one.

Robin Frolic, 28, heard about the protest from friends' blogs. She held a placard that read "Hate is not a family value." Frolic had her four-month-old son Connor with her (pictured right).

"It's his first protest," said Frolic. "My older son went with me to a pro-choice conference when I was six months pregnant with my previous child, who is now four years old.

"We spent 40 hours on buses to Washington, DC for a pro-choice rally."

Cameron Dunn, 29, was visiting Toronto from Detroit and just happened to be in the area, looking for vintage clothing shops.

"I think it's important that people non-violently express how they feel," said Dunn. "It's necessary for society at large to be aware of how minorities feel."

Just outside the entranceway of The Cameron, I catch up with David Baxter, 53, who plays guitar and mandolin with the band. He tells me a story about an encounter with what could've been Phelps and his ilk.

Toronto Counter-protest to Phelps in Canada, protesting Summerworks play"I was in Austin, Texas about five years ago for the South By Southwest festival. I got up early and went for a coffee and saw about 500 or so people in this parade with placards saying 'God Hates Fags.' They were all fathers and sons, no women. It didn't create much of a fuss there. There was no press."

But things are quite different in America. Thank God for that.

Toronto Counter-protest to Phelps in Canada, protesting Summerworks play

Photos by Roger Cullman.

Discussion

22 Comments

jack / August 8, 2008 at 03:20 pm
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was Tim Maclean gay?
David Toronto / August 8, 2008 at 03:32 pm
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If this hits the American press, it'd be interesting to see the reaction to the strength of Toronto's revulsion of Phelps and company.

It should certainly keep gay haters from the city and maybe the Americans from the fly-over states will stay home too.

I've volunteered at a historical site that has a gay- supportive banner and some visiting Americans see it and get all preachy and self righteous.

Let the miserable fly-overs stay home in Cincinnati or Wichita.
kstop / August 8, 2008 at 04:31 pm
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@jack: Nope. Their "argument" is that by not being mean to gay people Canada makes God angry at it and that he makes bad things happen of which this was one.

Their real motive (according to the interwebs) is to goad people into assaulting them, so they get publicity and can sue said people for all they're worth. The US has pretty much caught on to the scam so they're looking to try it up North.

There are no words to describe how disgusting these people are.
Roger / August 8, 2008 at 04:39 pm
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Apparently, they've <a href="http://winnipegsun.com/News/Manitoba/2008/08/08/6388411.html"; target="_blank">entered Manitoba</a> now and are set to protest the Tim McLean funeral.
jack / August 8, 2008 at 04:59 pm
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urgh... so they are basically promoting hatred? shouldn't they be stopped at the border/airport?
David B. / August 8, 2008 at 07:43 pm
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Why did anybody show up at all to this?

The Phelps are obviously so far off the mark of anything intelligent/relevant/ or even Christian. We keep giving them the press that fuels their engine. Why anyone would spend time protesting them is beyond me, why? Just to antagonize them? Just feel sorry for them and live your own life .

I mean, if you read the press release for the Tim McLean funeral, it's just insane. To be honest, it's so far off the mark of anything Christian, there is so much evil behind their words. I feel bad for anyone who lives with that sort of hate inside.
Sharpie / August 8, 2008 at 08:57 pm
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1. Sounds like these people are a hate group, so why is nothing being done about it?
2. I don't understand the concept of Christian gays. If the church hates gays, why are they wanting to be a part of it, and if it's some altered Christianity, then why bother at all, just make up a new religion, or join one that doesn't condemn you.
3. I don't understand why these gay haters waste so much time on hating, like they're wasting a lot of energy on something that's always been around and isn't going away. They could be using all that energy towards good deeds, like volunteering.
Rion / August 8, 2008 at 10:14 pm
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why would they protest tim's death? some dude shanked and decapitated his ass at random. If tim was gay, don't you think that westboro would be all like ":D" over this?
aahhrrgg / August 9, 2008 at 12:16 am
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Since hate crimes are supposedly illegal in this country, I say let them in and bust their redneck asses.
Jer / August 9, 2008 at 12:18 am
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I managed to see the show on opening night. It was very well done and I highly recommend it.
Steph / August 9, 2008 at 10:51 am
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@jack: They are trying to stop them at the border, yes, and one of their groups did, but the only way they can tell is by searching for pamphlets and signs. Some of them got through by not carrying Westboro material on them and then couriering the stuff over apparently.

I'm so so so happy that Toronto has stood up to this bullshit. I was very worried that they would get here, nobody would form a counter rally so I'm relieved. Fuck yeah to Toronto, we rock.
Corina / August 9, 2008 at 11:47 am
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Hate crime means you're breaking the law for hateful reasons; Phelps is not committing hate crimes.

In Canada like many other countries (except China, no comment) peaceful protest is legal. As I said before, letting zealots come up here and wave their banners is only going to make them look stupid. Let them come! It's clear from this post, were well prepared to put them to shame.
jamesmallon / August 9, 2008 at 12:17 pm
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I don't know our hate laws well, but I imagine that incitement to violence is against the law: e.g. to say to kill homosexuals or shoot doctors giving abortions. When they say that punishment from God is just, or a person who commits a crime against someone they scorn is just, I supppose that keeps them on the safe side of the law, perverted as their thinking may be.

These people are not Christian. At least, they seem to have zero understanding of the fundamental messages of the New Testament. The rely on the Old Testament (which is not the Christian Testament, no less) for 'evidence' for their hateful message. Needless to say, I don't hear their s$%t coming out of the mouths of Jews I know.
michelle / August 9, 2008 at 03:29 pm
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Like nothing bad ever happens in the US...so maybe they have it backwards...
Anon / August 9, 2008 at 05:30 pm
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Doesn't anyone in Canada actually know how their laws work? For future reference, here's the relevant part of the Canadian Criminal Code, section 319:

"Wilful promotion of hatred
(2) Every one who, by communicating statements, other than in private conversation, wilfully promotes hatred against any identifiable group is guilty of

(a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or

(b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.

Defences
(3) No person shall be convicted of an offence under subsection (2)

(a) if he establishes that the statements communicated were true;

(b) if, in good faith, he expressed or attempted to establish by argument an opinion on a religious subject;"

The question would be whether what Phelps and co. are up to is considered "good faith" argument on a religious subject. Thank God they're not atheists, eh?

So, no, Corina, in Canada (like in China, no comment) peaceful protest is not always legal.
June / August 9, 2008 at 05:33 pm
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Agreed with Steph -- thank goodness that Torontonians (and others flocking to the city) aren't putting up with this BS. Rock on! <3
Robert DiStefano / August 10, 2008 at 03:06 pm
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As a christian that believes in the whole Word of God in both the Old and New Testaments, I have to say that the tactics of the Westboro Baptist Church are off base and are not Christ like and I have written them and told them the same. That being said, the practice of homosexuality is condemned in both the Old and the New Testaments and there is no getting around this; but so is unforgiveness, hatred, adultery, lying, stealing, murder etc. All of us, including members of the Westboro Baptist Church need to turn to Christ for the forgiveness of their sins. Jesus loves the homosexual as well as any other sinner and welcomes them with open arms. After all, He ate and drank with outcasts and sinners and was ostracized for doing so by the religious establishment of the time. The bottom line is that God loves the sinner but hates the sin. All sinners are welcomed by Him to enter His family and partake of eternal life with Him forever. All sinners who refuse to accept His gift of grace and forgiveness, regardless of the sin will not enter the kingdom of heaven. They have made their choice. They will be lost for eternity. God does not wish that any should perish but that all will come to Him and become part of His family which includes sinners like me saved by His grace.
Roger / August 10, 2008 at 03:18 pm
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Not surprisingly, the Phelps protesters once again <a href="http://winnipegsun.com/News/Winnipeg/2008/08/10/6403451-sun.html"; target="_blank">failed to show</a>, this time at yesterday's funeral of Tim McLean. Cowards.
Dave / August 10, 2008 at 03:52 pm
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How deluded do you have to be to believe that God shows his outrage with the total perversion and immorality of a whole nation...by having one guy stabbed?

Also, it would seem easy enough to keep them out of the country, even if they're not carrying placards. Just look for people named Phelps. They're all related to old man crazy, aren't they?
DINA / November 8, 2008 at 01:00 am
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GOD DOES NOT LIKE GAY... SO EVEN IF THEY FEEL GAY THAT IS A BIGER RESON TO LOOK FOR GOD. GOD GAVE PEOPLE THE POWER OF CHOICE. IF THEY WANT TO GO TO HELL THATS ON THEM BUT GETING MARRIED IS SOME THING SACRED AND SHOULD NOT BE TAMPERED WITH THAT IS JUST WRONG. AS CHRISTIANS WE NEED TO PRAY FOR THEM TO LEAVE EVIL BEHIND THEM, AS IT IS WRONG. GAY SHOULD NOT PROTEST ON PROP 8 THEY SHOULD.TRY AND GET THERE MEDICAL RIGHT NOT MESS WITH WHAT IS HOLLY IN GODS EYE WICH IS MERRIAGE. DONT TRY TO GET GODS APPROVAL AS ALL GAYS ARE SINERS AND REBEL AGENTS GAD HIM SELF. THERE IS NO MARRIAGE WIT OUT HIS BLESSING
Elliptic / November 16, 2008 at 12:18 am
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DINA: So could you please explain to me how my atheist parents were married by a Justice of the Peace at city hall and without a member of any clergy in sight?

(Hint: Consult reference materials on "civil marriage.")
Liz / December 11, 2010 at 02:45 pm
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OK, dina, I'm sure that 'the gay' doesn't want to mess with anything holly...now are you talking yaupon holly or American holly? It is a very pretty tree; I can see why even an ignorant, illiterate slob like you would protest any maltreatment of such a beautiful plant.

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