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Subway Down & Shuttles Soaring After Spadina Station Shoot-Out

Just stepping in after a long trek home tonight featuring police tape, shuttle buses and service delays after an all out shoot-out broke out on the subway at Spadina Station.
Holding back on profanity I feel compelled to hurl at the individuals who decided to make a subway car their personal battleground, I'll just share what's being reported right now.
Frequent, packed, shuttle buses are running between St. George & St Clair West station along Spadina & Bathurst St at this hour. CityNews is reporting that "Heavy gunfire erupted on a subway train just after 8pm." No one was killed but a woman was hit in the leg. City is also reporting that one of the suspects is, "a black male in his late teens or early 20s. He's 5'8, with a medium build, wearing a black baseball cap with a jean jacket and jeans."
If you have any information, call Police, post your comments here, and/or speak up.
Update: The National Post is adding a report that this all started with an argument between a two teenaged girls and three teenaged boys who boarded the train at the same time. Out came a knife, then a gun, then a girl in the hospital with, thankfully, non life-threatening injuries. More on that from the Post.
Update 2: The Star checks in with more witness statements.


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Either way, it's not good news.
1,2,3,4,5. Make it safe
6. Make it clean
7. Make it regular
8. Make it fast
1263. Remodelling stations so that they don't offend against Sandra Bussin's "art background"
Amateurs.
if only they were not allowed to buy handguns this...oh wait thats clearly not the problem
You obviously didn't read the accounts of what really happened, because witnesses said the "teenaged girls" pulled a knife first. As far as I'm concerned, a weapon is a weapon, be it a gun OR a knife. I'm not saying the shooter was justified, I'm saying that BOTH parties are at fault here.
The problem is not that black men like to shoot people, the problem is black men raised in an environment (Jane & Finch) that is overridden by gangs and social problems we couldn't begin to understand.
You're right, the ability to purchase handguns legally is not the problem. However, just throwing them in jail is not the solution. The solution is to change the environment in which they're raised. Until that happens, it's just going to be an endless cycle of kids going to jail/getting killed, and new kids taking their place.
Murders on New York subways in 2006: 2
Murders on New York subways in 2007: 4
Murders on TTC in 2006: 0
Murders on TTC in 2007: 1
Given that the MTA/NYC have 4x the riders/population of TTC/Toronto, I would say that subway crime for that particular act is very low but also very comparable.
I don't know how many non-fatal shootings there have been on the MTA this year so far, but I think the answer is 1. Looks like the odds of getting shot up at Yorkdale or Spadina stations are tiny but nonetheless comparable to Penn Station or Utica Ave. Face it - Toronto now has the same criminal scum underclass that have been present in American cities for years. Turns out Toronto wasn't any better at avoiding it after all - no magic formula of urban planning or Canadian economics or better health care; without any real action to crack down it was just a matter of time. A persistent low level of horrible acts is now part of the TTC. It's a sad day for everyone.
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