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No Love for New Live With Culture Ads?

Posted by Tim / January 28, 2007

20070126_livewith.jpgHere's what we know about the controversial new Live With Culture ads promoting Toronto to American would-be tourists:

* There are four versions, all created for free by Toronto ad agency FCB.
* They are currently running in alt weeklies in Detroit, Cleveland, Chicago, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Rochester, Ithaca and Syracuse.
* They've received decidedly mixed if not negative reviews from the mainstream media. Among the few supporters has been councillor Kyle Rae who enthused "These are great. They're funny, they're poking fun at us, and will probably generate an interest in Toronto in other people who think of us as just another boring city north of the 49th parallel."
* None of the mainstream media bothered to ask any Americans what they think.

Live with Culture Project Manager Gregory Nixon welcomes the controversy and feels the ads have had the desired effect by creating buzz and conversation in the media and perhaps even around some water coolers.

Robert Ouellette of Reading Toronto disagrees and thinks we all need to do some serious re-thinking about how Toronto gets marketed abroad.

Perhaps the only issue that everyone can agree with is that these print ads are at least marginally more successful than the universally panned Toronto Unlimited disaster championed by Tourism Toronto.

Me? Well, I've been waiting for the ad campaign that plays on the obvious - that Toronto is a number of cities within a city. And no, I'm not talking about anything to do with the GTA, but rather a nod to our multiculturalism.

I can picture the headline now...

A one hour flight to Mumbai, Shanghai, Milan and Mexico City?
Say Hello to Toronto. The world in one place.

Um, or something like that....What do you think?

Discussion

15 Comments

Steve M / January 28, 2007 at 07:54 pm
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I don't think these are as bad a some have painted. I don't think they are the *best* idea ever but they are far from the worst.

I think you made a good point when you say that the mainstream media (and just about everyone else) has failed to ask the target audience what they think about the ads.

These ads are not meant for Torontonians. Of course we aren't going to like the stereotypes. But it's sort of besides the point if the ads actually work, no?

That said, I really like your idea of "The World in one Place".
Sameer Vasta / January 29, 2007 at 02:28 am
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I really like that cab one. Really really like it. I'd visit Toronto because of it. (And hey, I'm now officially a non-Torontonian, right?) =)
Steve / January 29, 2007 at 08:16 am
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Toronto: Coolest city evuh!
These ads: Not the coolest ads evuh!

When you think of the possibilities, these do fall a little short. But then, there's really only a few examples of where any ad agency has really captured a city's "vibe". Rochester, NY (a city that has the vibe of a piece of plain white toast)came up with "Made for Living", WTF is THAT supposed to mean? Did it beat out, "Rochester, You could die here, and it wouldn't be as bad as you think"
Gloria / January 29, 2007 at 08:44 am
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Yeah, tourist campaigns are traditionally terrible. These do well enough, and have some sense of humour and quirkiness. I think they're a bit tongue-in-cheek about Toronto's stodginess too.

I'm not sure why everyone's panning them so hard. Lots of ads are bland and crap.
Jerrold / January 29, 2007 at 09:11 am
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IMO, these ads don't really hit the mark. Although "edgy", they don't identify or genuinely portray Toronto's character.
Steve / January 29, 2007 at 11:56 am
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The bottom line, aside from maybe embarrassing the people who live in the city...do these ads really sway people one way or another? I mean, "I Love New York"? You'd have to be outta your' mind to love NY. I think of Toronto as a city that's cool enough to NOT do these kind of ads. In fact, make the ad. "Toronto, We Don't Need No Stinkin' Ad"
Andrea / January 29, 2007 at 12:33 pm
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I like the idea of the ads, but I think they're missing something.

Also, as a great multicultural city, these ads make us look mighty white. How about some colour!?
Carrie / January 29, 2007 at 02:28 pm
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Steve -- the 'I Love NY' campaign is brilliant...mostly because it's true. I don't know many people who visit NYC and don't utter those words.
Sheryl / January 29, 2007 at 03:41 pm
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<i>Say Hello to Toronto. The world in one place.</i>

That's it. Short, simple, sweet. Says it all.

Without resorting to poking fun at ourselves or anyone else. I've never understood why any kind of marketing scheme for Toronto seems dead set on proving we're just as good as anyplace else.

We are what we are, and that should be more than enough.
BlairF / January 29, 2007 at 05:29 pm
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I work in the performing arts industry and deal with Tourism Toronto and the City on a regular basis ... and this is just another "ho-hum" ad campaign. I was at the launch of the Toronto Unlimited brand and I remember seeing the brand for the first time and thinking "Uh...what?" A friend said it looked like a water filtration company or something.

Anyway, I digress. I'm curious to see how these ads will play out in the long run and if they garner any interest with the border states. My guess - not really.

As for Tim's suggested tagline - I like it! How about this ... a poster of a person cycling along a street and in the background two opposing neighbourhoods, say Chinatown and Little Italy. Caption: "China to Italy in 5 minutes"
Tagline: "Say Hello to Toronto. The World in one place"
Steve / January 29, 2007 at 05:49 pm
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Carrie, Yea, NYC is cool, but it's the rest of NY State that needs some help.
Steve M / January 29, 2007 at 06:14 pm
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The ads aren't meant to sum up Toronto as a whole. They are meant to be seen by Americans who read Alternative Weeklies (like our eye and now) who actually travel.

What is the demographic they are chasing with these ads?

My gut tells me it's white, University students. I could be wrong.

While I agree that "The World in One Place" would hit all the notes (it would work to build civic pride as well as engender a more holistic understanding of who we are) I don't think these ads are trying to do this or even need to do this.
Tim / January 29, 2007 at 06:36 pm
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Blair - I like your copy better than mine. Nice!
wfertuy / June 5, 2007 at 10:52 am
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DA / June 10, 2007 at 12:49 pm
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I love NY is a brilliant ad campaign. Anyone who goes to NY utters words. I live in New York now and am completely in love with this city. Toronto needs an ad campaign that evokes an emotional response. These ads are just strange and quirky. Do the Tourism Toronto or Live With Culture marketing people ever do focus groups from the target markets to see how people will react? I know people from these cities who have seen the ads and think they are ridiculous.

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