Toronto Hydro Plans Huge WiFi Hot Spot

Posted by Tim
Filed in City
March 7, 2006

march706_wifi.jpgYesterday, Toronto Hydro announced bold plans to turn downtown Toronto into one big WiFi hotspot. To try to make sense of what this all means for the future of wireless internet access in our city, I touched base with Wireless Toronto volunteer Patrick Dinnen.

Q. Was yesterday's announcement good news for Toronto residents?

PD: It should be. Until full details are available it's difficult to say for certain, but this really should be a good thing for Toronto residents.

Q. Wireless Toronto advocates for free WiFi for the city of Toronto. How does today's announcement impact that vision?

PD: The pricing structure really isn't clear at this point, so it's hard to say. Assuming that the Toronto Hydro network is for-pay, there is still very much a place for free WiFi in that ecosystem. In fact you could argue that free WiFi becomes even more important at that point, as presumably more people would have the equipment and knowledge to allow them to use WiFi, so free WiFi becomes even more of a draw than it is now.

Q. How is Toronto Hydro planning on turning the downtown core into one giant wireless hotspot? What technologies are they using? Is sticking access points on top of lamp posts a good idea?

PD: I'm really looking forward to seeing what the technology proposal is. I know that there are other WiFi projects that are based on the model of WiFi antenna on lamp posts, Mountain View, California for example.

Q. How will this affect current vendors like Rogers? Is WiFi in public areas a service that people will pay for?

PD: I don't think I'm qualified to comment on how this will affect other telecom companies, but I'm sure we'll hear plenty on this from them if they don't like the idea.

My guess is that at least a portion of the public is prepared to pay for WiFi in public areas. The question is how much of the public and what do they do with that Internet access, which probably depends a lot on the price structure for the service amongst other factors.

Q. How does Toronto Hydro's plans compare to what is happening in other cities such as Philadelphia and San Francisco? Is this a progressive move?

PD: Comparing this plan to the other public plans is difficult at this point, because of the absence of detail. But that comparison is something that we and lots of other people will be watching closely.

Yes, this does seem to be a progressive move. Here are a some points that I would like to see addressed that would confirm in my mind that it is a progressive idea:

* A clear strategy for public consultation, and opportunity for community stakeholders to participate, from the earliest planning phases onward.
* Provision for free wireless internet access in public spaces such as parks, community centres, and public squares.
* Specific and meaningful initiatives that address accessibility, especially in terms of underserved communities and small businesses.

rotenblog on March 7, 2006 at 11:57 AM

let me be the first to say WOOT!

during the press conference today they stated that the service would be free for the first 6 months! (i think they said 6 months, or some timeframe close to that). very smart as it will get people using the service, and they won't have to deal (as much) with angry customers during their roll out.

i heard a while back that rogers and bell were going to team up for a similar type of venture. i'm very glad to see that we are actually going to have some competition and choice in the market.

Tanja on March 7, 2006 at 1:01 PM

A few weeks back, in a blogging-related interviewed with a a writer from the Post, I was asked what I thought could make Toronto a better place. It was a hard question to answer, but from a blogging/media perspective I suggested (idealistically) that a wonderfully modern and democratic thing to have would be accessible low-cost WiFi across the city. Now, today's news may not answer questions of accessibility or low-cost yet, but it's definitely a start, so i'm thrilled to hear it.

St Dan on March 8, 2006 at 12:30 PM

Street level WiFi will be nice. More interesting though, will be to see if they can get it up to the top of the towers.

Michael on March 13, 2006 at 4:56 PM

I guess I'll never see the day when Toronto Hydro removes the poles and buries the lines.

sam on March 18, 2006 at 5:20 PM

this is REALLY great, but complicates things because if its free or not is a big variable. If it was free, i would hold off on buying a palm without WiFi and save enough to get a palm with WiFi...but still very good news!

Why Pay 4 WiFi on April 11, 2006 at 1:29 AM

Currently with Wireless Nomad I'm getting the best of both worlds my home service has gone from $49.95 to $29.95 and before I became a member I was able to use free WiFi in various spots that they provide around Toronto. The bottom line is this, if you don't like what your hydro company is doing to your cash flow as it is, why will they serve you justice on something so break through as WiFi? After 6 months they?ll tell you the system was very congested so they?ll have to really consider a ?fair? initial pricing. All the major companies can afford to give you cheap service in all aspects BUT they're not just out to make a profit they believe in HUGE profits. Be smart Toronto there are still better choices out there for free WiFi.

Leon on June 29, 2006 at 2:06 PM

What about independant vendors placing access points on street lamps? What kind of by law, if any allows this?

Jason on February 11, 2008 at 2:49 PM

This sounds like a great idea, unfortunately Toronto Hydro is the worst run company on the face of the planet. The WIFI implementation is sure to be bungled on every aspect from installation to billing. Completely scatterbrained.

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