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Your Factory Warranty is About to Expire

Posted by Jerrold Litwinenko / February 25, 2009

car warranty scam spamNo, my car warranty is NOT about to expire. It expired 200,000km ago.

I've had my cell phone for about 4 years, and not once have I received an unsolicited phone call from a telemarketer (other than my bank and my cell phone service provider)... until recently, that is.

It started a few weeks ago. In the middle of the day, I got a call from an area code I didn't recognize. Thinking it might be important personal call (my secret twin who was separated at birth?) or business contact (I do work internationally), I answered. After a short pause, a recorded message played, warning me that my car warranty was close to expiry and that if I didn't act... blah blah blah. I hung up before listening any further, recognizing that it was a bullshit spam or bullshit scam call.

But it didn't end there.

This has gone on, once every few days, for weeks. My phone rings, and I'm greeted by a recorded message:

"Your factory warranty is about to expire. You are still eligible to reactivate warranty coverage. This is the final call before we close the file. Press 1 to speak to a representative about your vehicle. Press 2 to be taken off the follow-up list."

I don't want to press either.

And now the calls are coming from what looks like a spoofed 416 (local) number. It also seems like no one is immune... likely because the calls are coming from an automated dialer of some sort, that is calling random numbers.

Posing the question to the blogTO Twitter feed, I was surprised to find that many people are experiencing the same problem. Twitter user jchristidis pointed me to this very informative report in the Toronto Star (from a couple of weeks ago, in the Wheels section, which I never read).

It turns out there this kind of pressure tactic has been going on for years in the US. But how the hell can a Missouri-based company get away with spam calling Canadians, and not be stopped? In Saskatchewan and BC, the provincial governments have issued cease-and-desist orders. Is Ontario following suit? I certainly hope so.

I want these spammers to stop calling me, and I most certainly don't want other telemarketers to start employing the same privacy-invading, rhino-style techniques. Circumventing our national Do Not Call List by calling from abroad, spoofing phone numbers, and interrupting our day to try to sell us shit shouldn't be allowed.

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Discussion

41 Comments

winger / February 25, 2009 at 06:26 pm
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ahhhhhh, I get that one too and then every other day I get a call from "mister Ibrahim" calling me with regards to a very important business matter. if i ever meet mister ibrahim I'm gonna fuck him up.
Z / February 25, 2009 at 06:26 pm
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UGH! YES i have had three of these in the last month at least! if the government doesn't do something i say we go find who's behind this and get stabby, no?
Justin / February 25, 2009 at 06:30 pm
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What retard setting up a business thinks phone cold-calling still works? It's such an antiquated business model. I was in the Market Research industry years ago and got access to "samples" of numbers/businesses - binder after binder of information that in some cases was over 10 years old - that supposedly cost a ton but yielded piddling results percentage-wise. And they weren't even trying to sell anything.
I can't imagine how low the expectations of Telemarketers must be these days... it would be a helluva lot more effective if the message simply shouted out a website address and hung up.

Has anyone actually bought something over the phone as a result of a cold call? Because I'd like to hear from you... so you can hear me laugh.
Rick / February 25, 2009 at 06:42 pm
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My wife gets these calls on her cell phone frequently.
It's essentially a scam. I saw a report on CBC a while ago about this, which I can't find online now. Basically they just want your credit card number.
Rick replying to a comment from Rick / February 25, 2009 at 06:51 pm
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Here's something from CBC about them:
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2009/01/13/consumer-warranty.html

The TV report I saw was much better, but this will do.

"The Manitoba Motor Dealers Association has called some direct-sale warranty offers a "scam" because sellers imply they are calling consumers on behalf of the carmaker or local dealership.

While the firms can legally sell extended service contracts, the consumers groups and dealers associations are objecting to the high-pressure sales tactics they use, and any implication that the companies are calling on behalf of a dealership."
Jerrold replying to a comment from Rick / February 25, 2009 at 06:57 pm
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^^ the article is already liked in the post :)
Natalie / February 25, 2009 at 06:59 pm
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Omg. I kept getting that phone call on my cell as well. Before it was the house phone and then my cellphone. So annoying. My mom actually believed it.
Grrr.
The TV Addict / February 25, 2009 at 07:05 pm
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Finally an explanation for the never-ending factory warranty calls. Thanks for letting me know I'm not the only one getting inundated by unwanted cell phone spam.
Sleuth / February 25, 2009 at 07:26 pm
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These are the culprits responsible for these calls in Toronto:



http://www.gemmacom.com/

Toronto Location
700 Lawrence Avenue West
Suite #375
Toronto, Ontario
M6A 3B4
416-256-1800
Matthew / February 25, 2009 at 07:39 pm
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What name does the automated voice ask for when they call you? I keep getting calls for some Korean woman, and I'm afraid she won't renew her warranty in time!!!

Yeah right.
Lola / February 25, 2009 at 07:59 pm
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Oh my god .. these people!! I have gotten probably around 20 phone calls from them since January, all from different numbers but using the same exact recording. It's insanity.
CK / February 25, 2009 at 08:00 pm
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I get these calls too, on my mobile. Best part is, I don't even own a car. I don't even have a Canadian driver's license. I also get calls about securing my credit rating. Last year, I used to get automated calls from some television show that wanted to know if I was selling my condo and would participate in some reality TV show nonsense. And from real estate companies as well.
sd / February 25, 2009 at 08:07 pm
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ive have had these calls as well.. and to think i was safe after signing up for the DNC list.
Roger replying to a comment from Sleuth / February 25, 2009 at 08:28 pm
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So how did you come upon them as the culprits? Please do share.

Gotta love their motto:
"Gemma's goal is to create an environment of sustained, controllable growth all the while focusing on our people, clients and ethical reputation."
Derek / February 25, 2009 at 09:01 pm
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I make a point of pressing 1 to "speak to a representative about your vehicle", then I tell them the vehicle in question is a bicycle. Hey, you waste my time, I'll waste yours...
Teena in Toronto / February 25, 2009 at 09:15 pm
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I was getting these calls on my cell phone all week too. I finally answered and hung up right away.
m / February 25, 2009 at 09:33 pm
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When I was getting them I told them I didnt even have a car so they said they would put me on the do not call list and I haven't got one since. fingers crossed.
Paul / February 25, 2009 at 09:40 pm
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I hope everyone involved with this company suffers a horrible painful death. Or worse, I hope they get locked into a room with Sid Ryan.
jack / February 25, 2009 at 11:56 pm
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I got the same call every single day.. so I finally answered.. before the telemarketer opened her frigging mouth, i told her to shut up, i asked her what kind of car I drove.. she said due to privacy issue, she was not allowed to disclose.. WTF>??? so i started cursing and screaming at her, using all the dirty words i know.. i told her if she ever fxxking call me one more time, i would go to the police and file a harrassment complaint.. she immediately said she would remove from the database
Efehan / February 26, 2009 at 12:12 am
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Has anyone tried having a heart to heart with them? Maybe they're just lonely and need someone to talk to. I just always feel bad that I missed the 1st warning so completely, you know?
jack replying to a comment from Efehan / February 26, 2009 at 12:24 am
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sure.. when I change my number to 1-999 and start charging them by the minute.. they can call me whenever they want, and i will chat with them
M / February 26, 2009 at 07:36 am
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I get a similar call but from 000-000-0000. It's the most frustrating thing!!
Roxy / February 26, 2009 at 09:11 am
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This company called and left messages on my house phone for weeks before I was home and actually spoke to someone. I said that I didn't want them to call anymore. And it stopped - then 2 months later it started again, the same thing messages on my machine.

I spoke to someone else and asked for their name, and their supervisors name and then told them I would report them to the police... At this point the woman I was speaking to told me not to give her so much attitude and I told her I was tired of being harassed. She said she'd put me on the do not call list - and they haven't called me since. *fingers crossed it doesn't start again*
Carlos / February 26, 2009 at 09:22 am
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Hahaha, so annoying!
I was going to do a noteTOself about it this week, but wasn't sure if it was a Toronto thing and if a lot of people were getting those calls
cathy / February 26, 2009 at 10:02 am
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I've been getting a lot of bank telemarketing calls the past couple of months on my cell. I finally entered both numbers into my contact list and set the ringtone as "none." So... they still call but now I'm not bothered by the ring in the middle of the day.
ds / February 26, 2009 at 10:59 am
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I just got a call, pressed 1 and politely asked them to stop calling...Lets see if my request actually sticks.
rachel / February 26, 2009 at 12:47 pm
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I've had teh car waraanty call (and don't oiwn a car) and I get similar ones on a weekly basis to my unlisted office number telling me I have won a cruise. Finally fed up of hearing the same message, complete with a blaring fog horn, I finally returned the call, and sure enough, it was a US company based somewher ein the Southern US.

After failing to provide deatils: why do you keep calling, how did you get an unlsited number, etc when asked ina completely professional manner, the rude woman ont eh phone hung up on me in teh middle of a sentence sayign that I didn't "deserve" to win the free cruise since I was so difficult.

At least since then, the calls have stopped.
david / February 26, 2009 at 01:06 pm
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Some unfortunate points here:

1) By pressing 1 and/or 2 you are confirming that your numbers is a valid number that rings to a real person. This now allows the company calling you to turn around and sell your number to another company willing to pay for confirmed numbers.
2) Do not call legislation does not reach across borders. The Canadian government has not recourse against this company as long as none of the officers set foot in Canada.
jamesmallon / February 26, 2009 at 06:26 pm
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Always buy phones that will block all numbers but those on your own list of contacts. The rest will not ring, and go straight to answering machine: most telemarketers will not bother to leave a message. Don't bother with the 'do not call' list. There are rumours it is being used for cold calls. At best it will be ignored by the inscrupulous.

A bit annoying for friends who have their outgoing number blocked to not ring through to you, but you can check their message and respond.
James In Chicago / February 26, 2009 at 06:50 pm
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If it makes you guys feel any better, I've been receiving these calls for years on my cell phones, work lines, land lines, etc. All of my numbers are on the DNC Registry.
Dudeguy in california / March 4, 2009 at 04:00 pm
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I get this call every day. I have like 10 voicemails stacked up, so not answering is a worse option because then I have to clean out my voicemail. This shit is annoying. And I am on dnc...
Aaron / March 4, 2009 at 11:16 pm
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i got many of these, so i asked what car they were calling about, and they couldnt tell me, so i freaked right out, went off the edge, i told them to never call me again, and asked them several times if they understood me clearly. i told them if i got another god damn call i'd come down there and choke them unitl their fuckin eyes popped out, then i'd staple my long distance cell phone bill charges to there fuckin forhead
call 2 fix / March 5, 2009 at 07:46 pm
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Their toll free number is at http://www.fic.gov.bc.ca/pdf/enforcement/trust/fia20090108.pdf
mike / March 8, 2009 at 12:47 pm
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i'm starting to notice a trend.. people who are registered with the DNC registry are getting scam phone calls..

I have yet to register nor will I, and haven't got a single unsolicited phone call.
noni / March 10, 2009 at 01:08 pm
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Yes, these calls are really annoying. They seem to be dropping off these days though. At the beginning I kept getting a spam call that just said "Oh, I'm sorry... I've got the wrong number" and then hung up... shortly thereafter came all the Renew Your Warranty and Stupid Foghorn calls. I am on the DNC list too, and these calls did start *after* I signed up.
Kris(tine) replying to a comment from jack / March 10, 2009 at 05:28 pm
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jack on, you are clearly a jack off. Sure these calls suck (duh!). But the person who answered the phone didn't dial your number. She didn't look you up. All she did was get up one morning and go to fucking work.

Working in any sort of telemarketing position is the absolute worst. It's also one of the few jobs open to people with little education, or few job prospects. They often come with health and dental coverage. So quit yelling and cursing at the goddam people on the other end of the line. It's not their fault, as much as you may like it to be.
dr / March 11, 2009 at 12:30 pm
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Just e-mail them to complain - but don't provide any real details.
Here is their contact info e-mail from their form page:
travis.summers@ndwwarranty.com


keven replying to a comment from Kris(tine) / March 11, 2009 at 01:28 pm
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Actually his approach is not that bad. I've worked the telemarketing game throughout most of college and almost every place I worked at, we were made to 'classify' calls into different categories. His approach would get him classified as a 'hard refusal' (as opposed to a soft refusal) and would probably get his name/number taken off the list in a hurry as they don't want to waste time calling people like this.

Also, when you work for a telemarketing agency, you come to expect these hard refusals and if you have thin skin you won't last long. His reacdtion probably provided a funny story for that woman's coworkers during lunch hour.

Personally, I just pick up the phone and say "NO!" before they can say anything, then I hang up. That also qualifies as a hard refusal.
nob ody / May 2, 2009 at 12:39 pm
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something bigger-you can laugh @ me but have you ever heard of the coded messages-the ones that only your subconsciousness perceives?so I'm not sure how they do that-like get the letters of the real message, scramble them so that they seem and sound like "the warranty on your vehicle bla bla bla"...and in the end of it all you involuntarily expose yourself to a brainwashing scheme by listening to a short message.You'll be surprised that the most complicated schemes of mind control come down to something so trivial and harmless but it only messes with your senses-seeing, hearing, smell and taste.
jon / May 13, 2009 at 01:49 pm
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nonsense. I've asked repeatedly to be taken off their list, sometimes they even hang up on me while I'm still talking. I've even done the digital request by calling the number back to be taken off and then following their instructions. still no luck.. this is rediculous and everybody at my work is going through the same thing. They seriously need to be sued. Big time.
david / May 22, 2009 at 03:42 pm
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funny... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,520321,00.html

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