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Xtreme Couture

Posted by Staff / Posted on August 2, 2011

Xtreme CoutureXtreme Couture is immense. During my visit, friendly staff gave me a tour of the 33,000 foot studio, telling me that it's the largest of its chain in the world. Getting a tour was easy: I simply sent a message through the club's website for their free 7 day pass and printed it out.

Looking around, I see ads on the concrete walls. This is new to me, but rather than looking out of place, it almost feels more authentic.

Xtreme CoutureEvery room I entered was incredibly well-stocked and would have stood as a mini gym on its own, including the cardio lounge, strength machine and free weight section, mini yoga studio, and the industrial Crossfit area with tractor tires against the wall.

I'm given a schedule and see that they offer almost 40 fitness classes each week. These include spinning classes, kettlebells, crossfit, Zumba and several kinds of yoga, including an MMA inspired style.

Xtreme CoutureAs for martial arts, Xtreme Couture has classes for BJJ (gi and no gi), wrestling, boxing, kickboxing, Muay Thai, Krav Maga and MMA. Like the fitness side, martial arts have dedicated areas, including a boxing ring, a variety of punching bags, a HUGE mat area for grappling and even an octagon.

Xtreme CoutureI manage to squeeze into the boxing class that night. My one complaint would be that it doesn't feel very beginner-friendly. I felt like I should already know what I'm doing to get the most out of the class, which I don't, since I haven't boxed before.

The class begins with shadowboxing, and when I ask for pointers, I'm told "stand in front of that mirror, and pretend to box". Not super helpful.

Later in the class, we do partner drills and I'm paired with someone with, somehow, less experience than me.

Xtreme CoutureUnhelped, I get punched in the face twice while we work out the drill, the instructor ignoring us as he watches two students duke it out in the ring.

Despite this, I still had a good time overall and wouldn't hesitate to go back.

After class, I'm offered a 15 month membership for $388.16 (tax included), which works out to $26/month, if I sign up immediately instead of taking them up on their 7 day pass.

Even if I had accepted the free week, the price only jumps to $468 +tax ($528) for the year, working out to $44 a month, which still leaves all but the most economical gyms far behind.

Xtreme CoutureThey also offer a cheaper option for those just interested in the fitness classes, that can be upgraded to an mma membership as time goes on. While I initially set out to explore Xtreme Couture as a martial arts school, I would really consider them if all I wanted was a fitness gym.

For those into MMA however, this is the place to be. You're simply going to be hard-pressed to find anything close to the variety of training available here.

Xtreme CoutureWriting by Dan Cosgrove. Photos by Jesse Milns.

Discussion

58 Comments

K / August 2, 2011 at 02:33 pm
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Great photos.
Janine Fawcett / August 2, 2011 at 02:41 pm
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That's my gym....I'm off to Zumba tonight...and Gypsy Kick tomorrow night....the best money I ever spent on myself!
Cheers.
Janine
sanjay / August 2, 2011 at 02:44 pm
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Not the best info here -- but there's a great burger place across the street called Royal Meats -- perfect for an afterworkout snack.
joe st. pepper / August 2, 2011 at 03:06 pm
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do i get a free tattoo and a tapout tee with my membership?
jake / August 2, 2011 at 03:44 pm
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"Unhelped, I get punched in the face twice while we work out the drill "
Wow- sounds like such a great place...

I like these new reviews on the fitness centres..good writting...but would like to add that more information be added about how busy the place was/hours etc.Maybe seek out some places abit more north rather than east/west.
Iain D / August 3, 2011 at 07:10 am
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I joined this gym about a month ago and I've been pretty impressed. The last gym I was at always had waits for the equipment, this one still has it sometimes but it's not nearly as bad.
One thing the author didn't mention is that they're renovating over the next little while and will have even more space.
JJ / August 3, 2011 at 09:01 am
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The website makes passing reference to childcare facilities on one of their class schedules. Can anyone confirm whether or not they have these and if so, what the cost is? Being able to get to evening classes as well as the few daytime offerings (as a student and single parent, I can squeeze in daytime much more easily) would make membership much more worthwhile.
Sam Smith replying to a comment from Janine Fawcett / August 3, 2011 at 10:56 am
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Never use your real name on a blog.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=868855246
Iain D replying to a comment from JJ / August 3, 2011 at 05:09 pm
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JJ,

They do have childcare. I don't have the exact hours in front of me, but I think it's morning and evening during the week, and 9-5 on Saturday. That might not be right, but it's close.
Cost is included with membership.
PrnsZ / August 3, 2011 at 10:29 pm
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This is my gym too! Although it took me some courage to walk in consistently, I love it! They are expanding. I've never had to wait for a cardio machine in the past 4 months. Like other gyms, there are peak times. I love working out in the back with the tires, etc - totally uncoventional. The staff greet you by name, they also have a juice bar. Most of the trainers are super!
JJ replying to a comment from Iain D / August 4, 2011 at 08:35 am
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Thanks! This is excellent news. I have just recently moved to Toronto and have been searching for an MMA gym that offers a good amount of daytime classes and/or evening classes with concurrent children's sessions (or childcare, so this will be on my list of places to check out ASAP. Much appreciated.
Andrew / August 5, 2011 at 07:19 pm
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What is the cheaper price for just the fitness classes? Would be interested in that over the gym component.
IJ / August 27, 2011 at 03:42 pm
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Quick question, if you sign up for the MMA Membership do you also have access to the fitness classes? I am very interested in this gym and was hoping to do both. If not, do you know what the cost would be for both MMA + fitness classes? With the membership you got, can you use the gym at any time as well? i.e., running on treadmills, etc. when the classes aren't in session?
Steve / February 13, 2012 at 05:41 pm
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if anyone is interested in a membership here i am selling mine. its 147 a month, all access. i have about 18 personal training sessions that i will pay for. can't use it as i no long work anywhere near the facility and is completely out of my way.
Nattie / April 6, 2012 at 11:36 am
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I'm moving to Toronto (to this area) soon. Looking for a place to continue my MMA training and also the MMA training for my 5 year old son. How are the kids classes here? Does anyone have their kids enrolled? Thanks,
Troy / May 9, 2012 at 09:21 pm
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Honestly man, its an MMA gym, you will get the occasional punch or injury. The reason no one showed any concern is because this isnt Goodlife, suck it up!
mikek / July 6, 2012 at 12:02 pm
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I just want to use weights. Any idea how much it is? Also you do require a contract? Can you pay cash? I see a lot of gyms ripping people off with contracts. Pretty scary.
cc / November 17, 2012 at 07:16 pm
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they have double billed my account 6 times this year and that is no joke...
leroy / November 17, 2012 at 07:25 pm
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yeah same...and they had me speak with some guy named steve the manager who is right down rude and has no clue. He thinks he is confusing you by going in circles of why they stole money from my account. when the only one who is confused is him.
joeshmo replying to a comment from cc / January 11, 2013 at 05:40 pm
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That's why I pay cash instead. Had I paid a cheque to a gym I'd be robbed already too!
joeshmo replying to a comment from cc / January 11, 2013 at 05:42 pm
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That is what happens when they don't value you.

" The stone that the builder refuses shall be the head corner stone"

Bob Marley
Xtreme / February 13, 2013 at 09:46 am
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Please note that I am reviewing this gym as it stands now. When I first joined (about 3-4 years ago), I was very impressed. Great MMA instructors, clean equipment, great staff, just overall a great MMA gym. Since then things have taken a steep decline, especially within the last 6 months or so. Ask anyone that has joined for more than a year and they'll say the same.

Here's some (not all) of the issues. THINGS JUST DON'T GET FIXED. The display of 4 out of 5 bikes they have are broken and haven't been fixed in over 6 months (I don't think they plan too). The MMA instructors went from guys like Mark Hominick and Chris Horridecki to guys that barely know what they're doing. I even saw a former student (mediocre student at best) teaching the classes. The soap dispenser has been broken and instead of fixing it, they have an industrial size soap box sitting on the sink. They have missing weights for over a year and still don't have it (80 lb free weight). Things just seem to break and never fixed. It's only a matter of time before they pass the threshold of their members patience. I actually think they've reached it due to the fact that I always see the price of membership decreasing every time I pass by. They don't even have a scale to weigh yourself...What gym doesn't have a scale? It's like a boxing gym not having punching bags

This gym is a prime example of a facility trying to hang on to stay afloat. It's either they can't afford to maintain the gym or they just don't care any more, both reasons to me are unacceptable...

If you're looking for a MMA gym, don't be fooled by the "Couture" name. He's either an absent part owner (Highly doubtful, but you should ask yourself ) or they just paid to have his name put on the the gym (highly likely). Go in, take some classes and you'll see what I mean...Maybe I'm wrong. Actually I hope I'm wrong as I have respect for Randy Couture, or had anyway

What was once a promising MMA training facility is no more than run down space with broken equipment with a somewhat pretty façade. You can put lipstick on a pig but...

These are all opinions so my advice to any that reads this is, if you're looking to train in MMA, look elsewhere. If you don't believe me, get a week pass and try some of the classes...

I guess the reason why I left is because they just don't care... or that's what it feels like. But hey, I'm just one person, if you're curious to measure the accuracy of my accusations, I strong;y suggest you go in and find out for yourself.
Xtreme / February 13, 2013 at 09:47 am
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Wow, I thought the double billing for 7-10 months was only me. This is starting to sound like an intentional scam...
Randy / March 5, 2013 at 12:21 pm
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Your complaint about double billing is a common one. It happened to me and a few other people that I train with. I know one or two guys who got triple billed. Then they try to offer you months on the end of your contract. Sure it works out but you are effectively pre paying to extend your contract.

Randy has nothing to do with the ownership of the gym. They paid for the rights to use the name, that is about it.

The instructors have been fairly good and consistent on the grappling side. They took away two day classes with a good instructor and lost a UFC fighter but there is still a good set of experienced grappling coaches. The striking side, has been inconsistent. They still advertise Hominick and Horodecki but they haven't been around for years. They have a new guy from Croatia who seems decent (and used to train with cro cop or something) and one of the thai coaches is certainly legit.

I still believe for the price that this is one of the better options, especially if your goals are more fun/fitness/hobby oriented in the GTA. Your complaints about maintenance and failing equipment are valid but most gyms don't even have any equipment or nearly as much, nor do they offer yoga/kettle bell/fitness classes included. I have been to the majority of gyms in the area and all of them charge a lot more, have less equipment and space and do not offer the same fitness options. I'll take that over having a soap dispenser that doesn't work (soap on the sink top instead), a few broken machines, some missing weights.

If you want to lift weights, you could most likely find a cheap gym to do that, which would have most of the equipment, nice change rooms, etc. If you want fitness (kettlebell, yoga, spin class) classes, maybe a YMCA or something would have all that cheaper than Xtreme Couture (not sure though).

If your goals are specific to trying to have some fights, boxing matches, sport BJJ, wrestling, etc. I think you could be much better off at another place that offers those specific classes more often. Generally you will pay more and give up access to the fitness options and amount of equipment though. I feel like if you want to get into boxing and have some bouts one day you should seek out a boxing gym. If your goals are to be competitive in BJJ, maybe seek out a gym that has more BJJ classes, etc... (Xtreme is focused on no gi grappling, even though they have one of the most well respected gi practitioners in the area teaching gi)
Ronin / April 10, 2013 at 02:35 pm
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I have trained Martial Arts for many years and decided to give this a gym a try.

Terrible gym if you want to actually learn and excel at martial arts. Joined up last year and I found that this gym only cares about memberships and not about the quality of instruction.

Most of their quality instructors have left and the trainers that are still there are barely qualified to teach beginners.

Also there's a douchieness vibe to the gym which is funny because of the so called "MMA Fighters" are pretty over-rated.
If you're gonna join get yourself a tribal tattoo, a faux-hawk and a Tapout shirt to fit in.



M / April 15, 2013 at 02:46 pm
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I've had quite the run-in with this gym.

Joined just under 2 years ago. At first, was part of muay thai classes under one instructor. Eventually moved to another due to time constraints, and my choice of his style. On that day I learned that this gym has a fairly meat-head mentality - the first instructor took major offense to me for switching, never asking why, and just started ignoring me even when I tried to say hi. I don't mean that one incident made me come to this conclusion; this behaviour persisted for just over a year time frame where I finally decided to stop trying to say hi to him. Politeness doesn't seem to get you far in this gym.

This is the kind of vibe I ended up feeling from most of their staff, especially when other staff members also started ignoring me for no reason. I guess I hurt the feelings of a group of them. They just seem incredibly irritable.

I ended up training under what I think was one of their 2 best striking coaches. Had a very good year-long history with this coach and this gym. Then when I went on vacation, the manager actually phoned me up constantly (while I was out of the country) and when I finally picked up, proceeded to work a deal with me knowing I was on my vacation/honeymoon. He refused to hold it until I got back. This should have given me a hint but silly me kept going on with the deal - the price I was getting was half a year membership fee for a year long term... fairly enticing, but he didn't mention to me that they not only fired my trainer but also the only other coach that I would have considered training under (and from what I've heard it was for some rather stupid political reasons, not limited to pay). Quite the sneaky screw move.

To these guys, fighting arts are interchangeable. I ended up with a second 15-month contract and a huge headache about how one muay thai trainer is another muay thai trainer is another... This place has no respect for the style of any striking art, or to make it more general, the varierty of styles falling under different martial arts. No one just learns 'kung fu' or 'karate'; they learn one of the many forms/styles/branches. As a result, I was left with the worst meat-headed, monkey-punching trainers around. There was no technique, just horrible fitness-mma that looked like it was taught by street thugs. To make things worse, the only real option I had at this point was to join the classes of the original coach that ended up hating me for switching out of his classes. There is no way to ensure that a) I'd get the attention I need to excel and b) ensure that I wasn't on the tail end of a prank meant to hurt (I'm also surprised I had to think this far into it).

The joke about this gym is I paid to be here... I can't believe I actually paid to be part of a high school drama scene.

All in all - I got screwed out of a long membership (as cheap as it was, I moved on to a real dojo/gym meant for the martial arts of my choice), I ditched an old dojo to join something that is incredibly unstable, had horrible dealings with management where they basically worked any way into a deal, and wasted money on something I'm not using.

My recommendation would be that if you are okay with being independant with your workouts (i.e. basically you either are a teacher of martial arts just using the bags to practice yourself, or you just lift weights) then this gym may be the place for you. However, I've heard that they're also extremely crouded currently as they are selling cheap memberships by the dozen to avoid bankruptcy, but haven't enough cash to fill the gym with enough equipment for the volume of people they now get. Buyer beware even for the independant athlete/basic gym user.

If you are looking for fitness MMA, there is one good guy left last time I checked. You won't be learning any serious technique for fights, but you'll have good abs and quite the cardio I guess. But this is limited to the schedule, so good luck if you can't make the class - there aren't many other options.

If you'd like to actually learn something for martial arts, as in to train hard for the fighting/competing aspect, stay away from this place. There is no technique left, and their best guys were let go late last year. The turnover rate currently is so high it makes me wonder how they retain their students, if not for enrolling them into contracts or getting full pay up-front at the time of signing. I once was talking with another friend who is also really into martial arts. I said this place could be a decent starting point. His response was that you would learn the worst habits and incorrect techniques starting at a place like this - something I now truely agree with.

Note 1: This is primarily for the MMA side. I mentioned the volume of people in terms of the weights side because I know someone who still goes there and that is their primary concern. She has to schedule workouts outside of certain times to make sure it's just a 1hour workout and not 2 or more due to waiting for equipment. This is a typical problem for gyms but is usually doable; at this gym it's apparently past that point.

Note 2: If there is one or two good trainers in that gym, and I'm sure are (there always is one or two poor dying souls in this kind of a mess, and I know of at least one fantastic guy on the weight lifting side of things), then I apologize if I've offended you. I'm just speaking my experience and concerns.
M / April 15, 2013 at 03:01 pm
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Oh, and to add more to the mix - the comments around the gym's ability (or inability) to fix machines in a timely manner are very true. Even the ones that work - half of them have kinks in it.

Schedule had Horridecki in it but I never saw him once in the 1 year 2 months I did show up.

Most of the instructors that have taken over are NOT certified. This could get you seriously hurt with the wrong kind of advice (this is for MMA side. Not sure about their personal trainers but I know a few who are fantastic - I won't take that away from them).

Weight scale is consistently broken, when it's there.

When a hanging bag breaks, they don't actually replace it, just move the bags around to consolidate them. Problem here is also that they mix kicking bags with boxing bags - when a kicking bag rips, a super hard and worked in boxing bag is put in place. At half the length and with what feels like a cement bottom, these aren't exactly the safest and best to use for training kicks.

I'll stop there. I think I've said enough.
randy replying to a comment from M / April 21, 2013 at 08:47 pm
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Not going to defend the gym because I have no incentive to and I also have moved on but the last time I was there the instructors on the grappling side are all the same.

The striking instructors have changed and seem to be a rotating door. Currently they have a legit kickboxing instructor (out of Croatia and I have heard he used to train with crocop) and I am not sure about the thai boxing coach. You mentioned why Clifton left & they had to fire the other guy after he was insulting customers and all that stuff. Horodecki and Hominick have been gone for quite a while.
Alex luu / April 25, 2013 at 12:36 am
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It's a good gym for working out, but an amazing gym for learning martial arts. Especially BJJ. Great teachers and trainers. Friendly staff. And the price is great (if you know how to negotiate) for a wide spread of classes everyday.
N.R / April 25, 2013 at 04:01 pm
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Recently joined the gym...not for the MMA, but just for the access to the weight room and cardio.

Im on the fence about the place. It get's very very very busy. I've gone at a different times in the evening. The after 5 rush is insane, 8:30-10 was also really busy. I did find 7-7:30 to be a bit better.

My biggest issue is with the messiness of the gym. Weights aren't put away. I know this is an aspect of all gyms, but it's borderline ridiculous. I actually spend a considerable amount of time trying to find sets of any given dumbbell weight. Weights being put away is definitely something that needs to be enforced. I've seen people nearly hurt themselves because weights were left laying around. I've scene olympic bars just laying around, randomly.

The other thing is that it's very crowded with equipment. I know that sounds kinda crazy. Who doesn't want a large quantity of equipment. The issue isn't too many pieces of equipment, the problem is that there is no logical organisation to it.

I know the reality is that this won't get resolved...but if they just took some time to layout the gym in a logical manner it would be amazing. If they expanded the weight lifting area to cut into the MMA mat about 10 feet it would make a world of difference. The MMA floor is so huge I don't think it would make any sort of impact on that end.

I'm starting to feel a sense of "buyers remorse" which sucks big time because my options are super limited for gyms in that area.

Finally the very last thing. I don't know about you guys, but to me getting in the gym for a workout is all about the workout. The amount of conversation and standing around near machines and taking forever to get off a machine because of this talking is unreal. I've never been at a gym and saw people socializing so much. Most of the time it's dudes just talking about girls and partying...the shit is ridiculous.

That is all!



MD / April 26, 2013 at 12:42 am
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I joined this gym primarily for the fitness. I was also attracted to the idea about training martial arts as well but I seriously have reconsidered after having some unpleasant experiences in the mixed martial arts area.
My first unpleasant experience occurred when I was by myself and I was throwing punches on the heavy bags. I saw one of the boxing instructors a tattooed guy with a moustache and politely asked him for some pointers. I expected a few friendly tips but instead he was quite rude and told me flat out he can't be bothered with me then he just turned his back on me. His attitude really put me off and I didn't go back to martial arts area again for a few weeks.
When I did go back I did my best to avoid the rude boxing instructor so I decided to try the Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. And that's where I received my second unpleasant experience. he class had minimal instruction and the instructor did very little to get the students involved and virtually ignored the students for most of the class. I tried a second class and it was almost identical to the first with the the same lacklustre instruction though a different instructor.
I really felt let down by Xtreme Couture and I feel like it is not a really hospitable gym for guys who just want to train to get fit and learn a bit of martial arts.
I cancelled my membership and have joined a Good Life near my house. I still would like to learn Martial Arts so if anybody has any advice on a gym that is much more friendly and actually gets its students involved and actively participating in class I would love to hear some suggestions.
randy / April 30, 2013 at 01:07 am
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To the above poster, there is plenty of great options but you in the large majority of the options you are going to pay a lot more than you would at Xtreme. Where do you live? Budget? etc?

I found at Xtreme, you really have to be self motivated and take an interest in what you are trying to train on your own and with other students. The instruction is legit, I took some classes with Wagnney and he was quite involved. The no gi is more relaxed and I felt welcomed and any questions were answered but I could see how new people to grappling could feel like the instructor is quite passive/to passive. It certainly is not for everyone.

If you provide some answers to where you live/willing to travel to, budget, etc. some people would most likely give you some options.
Mike / May 1, 2013 at 03:15 pm
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In my opinion, the issue isn't that they have mediocre (at best) instructors. It's the fact that they promote themselves as a MMA facility and don't deliver. If they simply promoted themselves primarily as a gym that also provides MMA lessons as an add on, I would feel like I got a deal. What angers me is the fact that they advertise themselves as a MMA training center and name their gym after Randy Couture yet their MMA instructors are random people. I even saw a student start teaching the classes...If this is what they're supplying, I'd be better off learning via youtube videos...

It's like enrolling to a course called Bill Gates School of Business, only to find out that the instructor is the manager of a local McDonalds. With NO REFUNDS!

Again, there's a difference between not meeting someone's expectations and feeling like you got scammed and cheated, which is the taste you get after you join this gym. I felt as though they put on a show when joining but as soon as my payments when through I became just another number.

These are simply my opinion but if you are looking for a gym and want to challenge what I've stated, please do. Don't take my word for it and check the validity of my accusations yourself by getting a week pass.

Randy / May 2, 2013 at 12:29 pm
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Hey Mike, I feel like a lot of your comments hold weight but I certainly believe the instruction is legit. Certain instructors are laid back but I feel like questioning the credibility is a little far. Which instructors are mediocre? The credentials on most are pretty good. I had my issues when I trained there but do not question if the instructors are legit.

Regarding your comments about it not being a MMA gym, sure. I'd point out that most MMA gyms have a similar structure though. And for good reason. I never got the point of an MMA class that takes people who are not good at striking or grappling and then trains both in one class. Starting out, most gyms have you train them separately then you can spar and do specific MMA training once you have a grasp of some grappling and striking. Most gyms do that....
Mike / May 2, 2013 at 04:36 pm
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Hey Randy, I'm more venting than anything else. It's hard to hold back emotions when you feel cheated but you're right, it's not fair for me to make blanket statements without having fully knowing their background. My opinion is based completely on experience. I guess the reason why I came off a little strong is because when I first joined, I was training with guys like Mark Hominick and Chris Horodecki. This is where my benchmark was set and quite honestly I was very happy with the level of training I was receiving. Then all of a sudden they brought in guys that seemed a little pretentious (with lower level of MMA knowledge. I guess it's true what they say, the less you know, the more you think you know everything). They had chips on their shoulders and for a lack of a better word "Clicky". Meaning that the instructors had their favourite students and would favour them over others. Consequently, spending more time with their favourites when it's students less skilled that needed their assistance more. This gym has a very frat boy club vibe to it. It almost feels like you don't belong there unless you're in the the "it" crowd. I did not join this gym to go back to the high school popularity atmosphere. Maybe it's me being sensitive, I don't know...

Anyway Randy, you have a valid point and by no means was I trying convert a satisfied customer to share my views.

I just think that they have a poor operating model and it should be revised to try to keep their clients happy.
Fahad / May 19, 2013 at 12:10 am
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So does anyone know the price for the membership for the fitness and mma?
Mike / May 21, 2013 at 02:50 pm
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This is another thing I found funny. I used to pay 130 a month (for both gym and MMA) until I found out someone in my class paid 30 a month (for both MMA and gym).

When I confronted them about this, they basically said "Hahaha, you found out our VIP membership offer" and matched it.

Yet another crooked way to con people into playing more. This, in tandem with the double billing scam smells like a con...
Lol / May 23, 2013 at 11:32 am
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I know the people that usually pay 30 would only have a fitness membership and just walk over to the MMA side. That said, I've heard a variety of prices from 70-150 depending on what they can get from you. It's 599 for 15 months if you pay up front iirc.

Varying prices is not something exclusive to Xtreme, a lot of other gyms do it to.
Fahad / May 23, 2013 at 04:38 pm
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What do you mean by VIP membership offer?
Mike / May 27, 2013 at 02:14 pm
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Fahad, your guess is as good as mine. I don't know what VIP membership means either. It's just something that they told me...

Personally, I think it's something they made up.

I am no longer a member there so I'm not sure what they're offering now.

Think of it like you're buying a car. If you go in saying "Hi, I'm looking for a car" they will undoubtedly try to get as much money out of you as possible. On the other hand, if you go in with a newspaper clipping (aka "my friend gets it for $30 a month) saying, I want a 2013 Toyota Camera for the price it's listed in this flyer, they will have no choice but to honour the deal.

Not unlike most things in life, if you show weakness to a sales rep, in any industry, they will prey and feast on you and your money.
Mike / May 27, 2013 at 02:19 pm
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Lol is 100% right. This kind of pricing model is not just reserved for Couture fitness, it's common practice by pretty much any gym.

I'll go as far as to say, it's not just gyms. A lot of industries, cars, mortgage rates, homes, etc all in some way shape or form employ this type if price negotiating.
PrnsZ replying to a comment from PrnsZ / August 14, 2013 at 04:09 pm
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sadly two years later, my review of the gym isn't as great as it was intially... the front staff is consistently changing no longer provide you with that 'cheers' affect and if you are a victim of theft at this gym, you are only made to feel more of one or that you were deserving of whatever may have transpired (keep in mind I'm one of those people who consistenly locked my belongings with my personal lock!!!).. this being said, I am through investing any more money into a gym where the owners do not respect its members. And when asked about the provisions that would take place to make this gym a safer place, my answer was simply: NOTHING

It's very sad as I've been working with an amazing trainer for these years and now my progress may dwindle due to the owners ineptitude.

I am very disgusting and appalled by the way I was treated. Little did I know that there other disgruntled people out there.

Mine being a victim of theft at this gym was not going to stop me from going to this. What made me change my mind was the attitude of this owner and I hadn't asked for anything!!!!
PrnsZ / November 13, 2013 at 12:05 pm
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Well 3 months have passed since that incident and I am pleased to say a couple of things:

1. The culprit was caught by the police for a different incident and pleaded guilty -- YEAH!!!!

2. With the help of the manager there, Jason, I received a great apology, and have seen some minor changes in the gym with regards to signage -- small things that really mean A LOT!!!!

The second helped reaffirm that I am to continue to with my health successes at this gym and am grateful for the lengths that Jason went to to ensure my continued success with the gym.

Cheers!!
Lisa / November 28, 2013 at 11:28 am
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Couture means fine sewing. Just FYI.
Lisa / November 28, 2013 at 11:31 am
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Sorry, just read the owner's last name is Couture. So many people confuse it with high-end or fancy it irks me as a seamstress.
Ryan / December 5, 2013 at 09:08 am
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The name Couture on their signage means nothing. They pay him to do so and they pay his again to make appearances there. Beyond the financial relationship, there is none between this gym and Randy.

Don't believe me, just take a look at their MMA schedule. I quit the day I saw the janitor teaching a Muay Thai class. I kid you not...I saw this short blond haired kid, that used to be the janitor teaching the class. I inquired and supposedly, they paid him in MMA classes or offered him MMA classes while he washed their toilets and then they asked him to be the trainer...I was speechless.

muay Thai guy / January 2, 2014 at 01:16 pm
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I've been at this gym for a while now. They have a good gym, but as for the Martial Arts training, not so much. They used to have some good trainers, but the gym screwed them on pay so they left. The Muay Thai trainers are good, but shitty BJJ and Boxing. The BJJ is a free for all where the senior guys practice their moves on new guys. I took some BJJ there and learned nothing from the trainer. The fucking Boxing coach is only concerned with his fighters, and only teaches classes for the money. I joined this gym as a place to try and learn all the fighting styles, but most of their coaches will right you off if you take other classes other then their own. The cost is okay as long as you don't get double billed. I will join a better place very soon. Good luck Xtreme Couture. I hear Clifton Brown is opening a Muay Thai gym. Thank God!
J-T / January 19, 2014 at 12:37 pm
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I have not been apart of this gym since 2012 (So take my complaints/compliments with a grain of salt, Also its just my opinion on the gym)

Cons: (I like doing the bad first)
1. The front staff/Management is VERY Iffy (Ignoring me one day, Being friendly the next. I usually just chalked it up to them being in a bad mood those days as we all have those, It was different story when they would talk down to me)
2. The Membership has NO set price, My buddy had paid 170$ for his membership. They offered me a 100$ membership which ended up making him disgruntled. My friend ended up going and getting a 60$ membership for the EXACT same thing i got!
3. SOME Instructors as just not pleasant, Once they got rid of (I think this is how you spell his name) Resa (Reza?) Teaching Thai, The class took a hit. It was a fun Tech Based class for competing and Cardio alike. The guy who took over ended up turning it into a bare cardio class.
4. Changes in staff KILLED the my time there. I'm the type of guy who enjoys to get to know his coaches, Training partners and staff at his gym. I think the right place to be is a friendly place. Some coaches were just assholes. The trainers i remember being cool were: Misha (BJJ) and Reza (Thai)

There are other things wrong (Double paying, Taking it early)

SORRY ONE LAST THING! If you get paid on a specific day BE CAREFUL I was told every 28th they would take out of my account. they took it out on the 27th cost my 45$ (not only once)


Good:
1. Misha is still there, He is the single best BJJ Instructor I've seen.
2. Cage AND ring, If you are training to become a fighter. THIS WILL HELP. Getting work against the cage/in the corner of the ring will be priceless.
3. The mat space is unreal! This place has enough room for two classes to go head to head. Lots of room to grapple!
4. The price (Unless double billed) Is fantastic for what you get. Huge space, Lots of machines, Cage AND ring!


These are my opinions! Take the free trial and see if you have a better time.
Couture messed me up money wise, Started to have money troubles and after that lost my apartment AND girlfriend of a year. (She was not right for me anyways)

Good luck at turning this gym around.
Mike / January 22, 2014 at 10:00 am
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I usually try to stay unbiased when it comes to reviews but this place truly is inconsistent.

1. MMA trainers Suck because they are inexperienced. Prior to having inexperienced trainers, they had bullies as trainers that would flirt with the females and mock the newbies, which they fired...

2. Personal trainers suck as well. The good ones leave, the ones that stay talk on their phone while "training" you. It's like having a tutor watch TV while training to teach you...

3. Facility is good (large) but poorly maintained, broken/unfixed equipment, missing weights, etc

4. Pricing varies too much and they try to double bill you hoping you won't notice.


Philip / February 8, 2014 at 02:11 pm
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I have been to a few gyms in my lifetime. This gym should not be in the top 10. While their MMA facility may be good, but the palestre (gym) is horrible. The quality of the equipment is cheap, everything is misplaced (you may lose valuable time simply looking for the right weights) and above all - there is no water fountain. We had a better facility when I was in Juvie.

I am a member for its proximity, but I just want to inform people that are looking for a quality gym to look elsewhere.
The Truth / March 18, 2014 at 12:06 pm
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- Crappy personal trainers that talk on the phone while taking your money
- Crappy Facility with broken equipment that never get fixed
- Doesn't have a scale. What gym doesn't have a scale?
- MMA trainers that are also the Gym Janitor (Im not kidding when I say this. I saw the janitor running MMA classes...)
- Managers that treat you like garbage once they get your money
- A very fraternity like atmosphere. It's almost like a high school popularity contest.
- Fluctuating prices
- There so much more I can say but you get the point

There is absolutely no reason to join this gym

There a gym just down the street called Regency Gym (Kipling & queensway)that is much better in every way, equipment, staff, classes, facility and overall atmosphere
John / March 27, 2014 at 06:24 pm
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Great gym. This facility has exceptional equipment, and the classes provide an excellent learning advantage.
Mike / March 28, 2014 at 02:59 pm
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lol John.

What time is your shift there?
The Truth / April 15, 2014 at 03:45 pm
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John,

Can you elaborate on "exceptional" equipment and "excellent" learning advantage? Cause the last time I checked they were missing 80 lbs dumbbells for over 2 years, 1/2 their bikes digital display was broken and the instructors had little to no experience.

I can back up my statements, can you?

I think Mike's right, John works for Couture fitness...
socratic method / May 28, 2014 at 10:19 pm
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This place blows, the guy tried to hustle me on the membership fee, when I refused to go on a contract he offered a deal for month and said we'll talk price after this month, when I said let's talk money now he tried to over charge me... I wouldn't even train there for free... crappy place with a douche bag vibe .
leh / July 11, 2014 at 12:02 pm
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This place is a scam. I went in for a 7 day trial and they conned me by making me sign a contract with them on the first day. They told me the trial was in fact the 'cooling off period' on the contract (where, according to the consumer protection act, you can cancel a contract and get a refund for any gym contract within 14 days of signing). After a lot of pressuring I was like, okay whatever I'm protecting by the act right? So I sign it and then try out the place.

The facility, while large is quite messy and disorganized. The gym/fitness side seems really small and cramped with equipment everywhere and the MMA side seems very unsanitized (yes, I understand it's an MMA gym but even more the reason to make sure things are bacteria/fungus free). I went to one class, which I was not impressed with at all. Sure the gym size is huge, but why would you ever want a class that large with just one instructor? Very little individual attention and you'll likely just be the practice dummy for senior students.

The gym is FILLED with a meathead-douchebag vibe and I can't stand it. Almost got into a fight in the parking lot when some jerk decides to PARK right behind me, blocking my car in between the building's walls and his busted ass car. Then he proceeds to start taking his sweet ass time changing, CHANGING in the parking lot. When I tell him politely that I need to get out and ask for him to move his car, he says "fuck off, what are you going to do about it?". The ass hole puts his hands up in a fighting stance and I'm just like WTF? (Oh btw, I'M A GIRL). Not really feeling like getting into a fight, I cross my arms and stare at him. He proceeds to call me a pussy, finishes changing and leaves. The gym is FILLED with these kinds of dudes.

Management staff is ridiculously pushy. They're super nice until they get your money, then they're rude. When I inevitably filed a form to cancel my contract with the cooling -day provisions, they gave me such attitude. I told them I didn't like the vibe of the gym and had decided to go to another gym closer to home instead. They proceed to insult me, saying I've 'cheated on them', saying things like "why waste our time and do a trial membership in the first place" and then after that expect me to do another 'trial' and then decrease the rate for me. I said I would have none of it and they told me I would have my refund in the mail. Low and behold 20 days past and still no refund. Contacted several times with no luck. Looks like I've been scammed.

For people trying out this gym. DO NOT SIGN THE CONTRACT WITH THEM. EVEN IF THEY TELL YOU ABOUT THE COOLING OFF PERIOD, THEY WILL NOT HONOUR IT AND GIVE YOU A REFUND. This is presumably their way of stealing money from people coming to try out. Oh and the law won't help you either, even if you file a complaint, unless it's over $500 they will tell you to go to a small claims court (where you'll probably dish out close to 100 in fees to file a claim against them).
Mike replying to a comment from leh / July 15, 2014 at 01:29 pm
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Leh, I got pretty much the same vibe and treatment. Very nice when talking to a rep initially, but as soon as they found out that I would not sign that day, he buried his head and started writing some notes. I sat there thinking he was writing something for me and after 2 minutes, he looked up at me and said "Why are you still here, are we done?" I responded by saying "You tell me, I was waiting for you to say that we were". He said "Go, leave, we done". I was blown away...I got up and said "You will never get my business" and he responded by looking over at one of his colleagues and laughing. Even as I write this I'm getting a little angry as I've never been treated like that in my life.

So I decided to do a little research. Here's what I found

1. Randy Couture has nothing to do with this gym. They paid him money to put is name on the signage
2. There are no legitimate MMA instructors there. The trainers have no experience and they literally got them off the street or are former students
3. The run a double billing scam. The bill you twice a month "by mistake" and won't refund your money and will only credit you in gym month membership
4. Their personal trainers are ridiculous. They spend more time on their phones than actually training their clients
5. The people that go there definitely give off a douchbag vibe. They have a chip on their shoulders and the gym employees feed to this fire and perpetuate this crappy vibe

I'm going to stop here because I really am getting angry writing this and I literally could go on forever. My experience here was terrible.
jla / August 12, 2014 at 07:58 pm
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I've been going to this gym x 3 years and have had none of the problems except one. First of all, everyone has been polite and nice to me. It's always been clean when I was there. Can't speak to the martial arts part 'cos not doing that. If a piece of equipment is broken, it is fixed by the next time I come. Yes, there is no weigh scale. Don't know what that is about. There are times when the parking lot is packed and can get annoying, but, that's not every visit and I do my best, when my schedule allows, to not go at prime time. I see a lot of dedicated, straight forward people working out and keeping busy. All ages too. Even people training for competitions.
Now there is a problem with personal trainers. Wide range of competency and interest in what they are doing. Go to either Jason or Matthew (managers) if you have a problem. It will get dealt with right away. Need to set ground rules with them like: no- I haven't paid for you to chat with me while on the treadmill/eliptical/bike because I don't need companionship to keep me on track for my cardio. Have a training focus & if the trainer deviates from it, call them on it. And, if they talk on their phone while seeing you, fire them as your trainer.
And, Randy Couture has been at the gym. He may not be an outright owner but he is still in the picture. I'm told, if you are a member at Extreme Couture here you get free time at his gym in Las Vegas.

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