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Mammoliti on Atwood and the democratic process

Posted by Derek Flack / July 28, 2011

Giorgio Mammoliti quotesIt's probably not a great idea to get too caught up in what Giorgio Mammoliti says, but once in a while it sure is entertaining to pause and consider his soundbites. Well, maybe consider is too strong a word — but whatever.

Recent favourites come in the form of the Ward 7 councillor's comments regarding Toronto libraries, Margaret Atwood and today's executive committee meeting, for which over 300 speakers have signed up to depute. On Atwood's defence of keeping Toronto libraries open, Mammoliti used his business sense to disclose the author's ulterior motives. "If I made all the money she made from our library system I would want to defend it as well," he told reporter's yesterday. But, of course — it must be all about the dollars for Peggy.

Perhaps more problematic than this late-to-the-debate comment regarding the library, however, is the disdain the councillor shows for the democratic process at today's executive committee meeting. "It's always the same people [at these meetings], it's people that have a clear interest in terms of how they've done business at the city, and I've seen very few new faces at committee," he said, again echoing Doug Ford, who earlier theorized that the speakers list at today's meeting is stacked with union representatives.

Oh well. I suppose the best thing to do with Giorgio is to assume that the reason he believes others are solely motivated by self-interest is because that accurately describes his own disposition. And once one factors that into his comments, it's possible to see them for what they really are: half-baked attempts to take the attention off the Ford Brothers and the more serious matters at hand — namely the wide-ranging cuts under discussion today at City Hall.

Discussion

35 Comments

It's easier that way / July 28, 2011 at 10:14 am
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In a thief's mind everyone is a thief. In the self interested mind everyone is self interested.
Bubba / July 28, 2011 at 10:23 am
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Yes, what a pain in the ass the democratic process is.

Mammoliti + Ford Bros. = Dumb and Dumber
Dave / July 28, 2011 at 10:56 am
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When your constituents agree with you, they're "the people" or "taxpayers". When they don't, they're "special interest groups" with selfish motives.
notafan / July 28, 2011 at 11:14 am
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This guy is one huge TIT
HE should be fired. Period.
-first there was the 'whore-island' idea
-then he backs the mayor for his cellphone use while driving, stating the mayor 'is a busy man'

Giorgio Mammoliti should get another line of work
Something he was meant to do. Meant to be: an owner of a strip-club
JD / July 28, 2011 at 11:17 am
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Mammoliti is a tool.
sorry in advance for the mental image ... / July 28, 2011 at 11:17 am
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Mammoliti's head is stuffed so far up Ford's ass he can taste what RF had for breakfast
McRib / July 28, 2011 at 11:24 am
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probably onion rings
dils / July 28, 2011 at 12:33 pm
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Mammoliti on the receding gum process
ROB / July 28, 2011 at 12:43 pm
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Sorry, but what if he's right about Atwood? She's made a good living from her book sales to the public library and school systems. Doesn't this factor in to her support of it? Mammolitti may have his own self interests at heart but it doesn't invalidate that comment.I'd prefer fewer libraries that people actually use than a few out of the way tiny badly run ones that only serve to keep overweight CUPE members employed.
pops replying to a comment from ROB / July 28, 2011 at 01:04 pm
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dude, you're so right. we should all just quit our jobs, start writing books and sell them to the city to house in their libraries around the way. ppof! everybody wins!

I'm going to go out on a limb and say she's made a good living because her books are good.

whatever replying to a comment from ROB / July 28, 2011 at 01:06 pm
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the counter argument is that had her books not been in libraries, people would have to purchase them individudally, and not borrow them for free from the library
Depends replying to a comment from ROB / July 28, 2011 at 01:41 pm
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It doesn't matter who buys her books, it depends on much royalty she makes from how many books are sold through her contract. Usually she will make 15 to 25% of what her books sold. The rest goes to the publisher, printing costs, and so forth. Libraries buy books usually at whole sale price, because they buy in bulk orders.
Terry / July 28, 2011 at 01:56 pm
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Mammoliti is another one of Ford's "yahoo's". Who's more foolish, the fool or the one following him. Ford has no financial background and I would question the mayor's claims and his "deficit" numbers. He is a short-term thinker; penny-wise; pound-foolish. A very expensive mayor for this city.
Nico replying to a comment from ROB / July 28, 2011 at 01:57 pm
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Uh, dude. Our libraries <em>are</em> being used.

From an article in yesterday's <em>Globe</em>:

<blockquote>Toronto’s system is the second largest, by number of branches, and the busiest by circulation, on the continent. New York City public libraries lent out 24 million volumes in 2010; Toronto’s lent out over 32 million. </blockquote>

Read the rest of the article here: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/editorials/margaret-atwoods-inspiring-defence-of-torontos-libraries/article2112073/

Rob, is your last name Ford?
Epic Eyeroll / July 28, 2011 at 02:06 pm
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"Sorry, but what if he's right about Atwood? She's made a good living from her book sales to the public library and school systems."

Yeah, all those library-type people reading her books for free by sharing them instead of each one buying them at retail. YEAH SHE'S TOTALLY MOTIVATED BY SELF INTEREST HERE.
The Wizard / July 28, 2011 at 02:13 pm
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Mammoliti is nothing more than a flying monkey to ROBDOUG's wicked ways.

Same goes for Frances Nunziata.
McRib / July 28, 2011 at 03:46 pm
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Nunziata actually scares me.
josher replying to a comment from Epic Eyeroll / July 28, 2011 at 05:02 pm
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Epic Eyeroll indeed!!!
ROB replying to a comment from Nico / July 28, 2011 at 05:36 pm
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The system as a whole is very well used. The larger ones are always packed and well organized. But I could name a few smaller ones that may house crickets on certain days Consolidating into mega libraries may be the only available option for the city.

Take away Margret Atwoods's sales to the Library and School systems and what would her sales be like? How many of you would actually buy her books? That's my point entirely. Too bad Epic Eyeroll doesn't get it.
Nico / July 28, 2011 at 05:51 pm
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Ok, Rob. I'll call you on it. Name a few smaller ones that house crickets. I'd love to see your stats.

Why are we still talking about Margaret Atwood? She's is an internationally best selling author who's been translated into numerous languages, taught in schools around the world, and helped put Canadian literature on the map with her classic, <em>Survival: A Thematic Guide to Canadian Literature</em>. She's involved in PENN, and is at the forefront of the Canadian literary scene - in fact, she's pretty much CanLit's poster girl.

Your surname simply <em>must</em> be Ford.
steve / July 28, 2011 at 06:33 pm
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Using Georgy boys own logic, he would not be at city hall today if he had a real job. Does his working for the city not make him one of the lazy over paid bureaucrats who has been sucking on the teat of the taxpayer too long. have him get a real mans job, a grease monkey at Mr Lube.
Epic Eyeroll / July 28, 2011 at 07:02 pm
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Oh, ROB. Darling. There's one person who isn't "getting it" in this thread. But it certainly isn't me.

[She says, eyeing her copy of <i>A Handmaid's Tale</i> on her bookshelf.]
horrible / July 29, 2011 at 08:14 am
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"Oh, and Cllr Mammoliti said there some good deputations, he absorbed some of what they said, but "very few in my opinion" qualified as good."

Fucking horrible human being, saying very few were worth listening too.
horrible replying to a comment from ROB / July 29, 2011 at 08:16 am
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"Take away Margret Atwoods's sales to the Library and School systems and what would her sales be like? How many of you would actually buy her books? That's my point entirely. Too bad Epic Eyeroll doesn't get it."

you are fucking clueless, she makes majority of her royalities from book stores. Just quit making yourself look like a idiot, it gets tiring to read day after day.
ROB / July 29, 2011 at 09:45 am
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Sorry, I'm right. Toronto has 99 library branches, and let's say Atwood has five books in each. That's 495 Atwood books. I see online that the highest royalty rate an author usually recieves on books is 15%. She probably gets that since she's so famous (not huge famous though, our own co-mayor wouldn't recognize her in her own town). So if all those books sold for $20 each, there's $9900. 15% of that is what Atwood's theoretically made off Toronto's libraries over the years. $1485! That's enough for like three iPads! OUR LIBRARIES HAVE MADE ATWOOD SO RICH!
ROB / July 29, 2011 at 09:49 am
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Also, stop calling Mammoliti a dummy. He's really super smart. You obviously haven't heard of his genius idea to increase tourism: A totally super tall Canadian flag in northern Etobicoke. http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/847439--mammoliti-is-hoping-a-big-flag-will-translate-into-big-tourism-bucks
TheVok / July 29, 2011 at 10:17 am
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So, ROB has admitted to being a troll now? By accepting that the earlier statement, "She's made a good living from her book sales to the public library and school systems," was utter nonsense all along? Okay.
ROB / July 29, 2011 at 11:15 am
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What are you talking about? I've just demonstrated how Giorgio Mammoliti is totally right that Margaret Atwood is totally rich because of the Toronto Public Library. $1485.00 (my estimate of her lifetime earnings from our libraries) is enough to rent a bachelor in Etobicoke for two entire months!
ROB / July 29, 2011 at 11:18 am
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Seriously though, I respect Margaret Atwood's right to her opinion. But Doug Ford is right here. If she wants to say her opinions out loud, she has to win an election first, and say them while in office. Otherwise she has to be quiet. This is what democracy is about! Everybody shutting up except the government!
YEP / July 29, 2011 at 12:11 pm
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Newsflash: One day Mammoliti will be arrested for trolling hookers on Craigslist or better yet, being at a rub n tug.

Steve replying to a comment from ROB / July 29, 2011 at 12:32 pm
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I think you meant autocracy, chief. Because that's what the Fords want it to be.
Ghost of Rob / July 29, 2011 at 12:56 pm
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ALL OF YOU GUYS ARE IDIOTS. the library provides a vehicle for people to get exposed to atwood's work. it's exactly the same scam art critics play with canadian art and the endless hype it gets. Margret atwood, regardless of your opinion of her works, is very dependent on pushers from the libraries and the schools to get her works exposed to 'youth'. Think about this: if Margret had to actually employ and paid for a publicist to pimp out her work at the same level the public library does, she wouldn't be as rich as she is today.
the lemur / July 29, 2011 at 01:22 pm
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To sum up the Mammoliti worldview:

People who show up to attest to the value of city programs and services that are in the mayor's crosshairs: BAD

People who call out other citizens on their dangerous and illegal driving behaviour: BAD
(Rob Ford may be cheap, but collisions are expensive)

Giant useless flagpoles that no one asked for and that businesses are being forced to pay for: GOOD
Ghost of Rob / July 29, 2011 at 02:02 pm
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Perhaps I haven't made myself perfectly clear...

All those European and U.S. universities with Atwood on their reading lists are mere puppets of the all-powerful Toronto Public Library.

Atwood doesn't even have a publicist! I think?! (don't Google me on this!)
You forgot replying to a comment from the lemur / July 29, 2011 at 02:34 pm
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you forgot:

Red light district on the island: GOOD

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