Where's Omar? (as in Khadr) cardboard cutouts spotted around Toronto

i think its great that he is having his trial, but seriously, the entire family has made me very skeptical. Interviews with his mother and sister show exactly that they are radical jihadist muslims. I actually wish the whole family could leave after watching his mother and sisters interview.

I couldn't agree more.

There's nothing like torturing those we dislike and throwing in a show trial to set things right and improve the general mood.

This represents the exact folly of the apologists for Islamic extremism. I'm sure these artist flakes wouldn't be painting Khadr as a children's book character if he had succeeded in blowing up a loved one of theirs as a poor innocent misguided 15 year old.

Send their whole family, and anyone who sympathizes with their plight, back to the desert from whence they came. This country doesn't want your intolerant and cleverly disguised hatred living in its midst.

Your point doesn't even make sense. If your point is that the government is doing terrorism then why are you telling us to go home?

And how isn't it our country? Why are Canadians because we have lived integrated into the country which is the exacty opposite of what the Khadr family has done (mostly not lived here and definitely not integrated). And then you throw out the racist card because your post lacks logic and we all knowing how throwing out "racist" is a great way to chill the air when an argument tanks.

And what's this prison bit about? He's in a prison because he attacked soldiers while not wearing a uniform. So why should we go to prison? What's the connection?

Are you posting while drunk or it is simply because you don't have any idea of how to make an argument?

He should come back to Canada, once he serves 50 years for murdering a battlefield medic.

Actually, Myohmy, I'm 13th-generation Canadian, so this <i>is</i> my country. Just because you live in Canada, it doesn't make you Canadian. You must participate in Canadian society and what it stands for if you want to call yourselves Canadian.

The Khadrs have proven that they don't want any part of that, so they sure as hell aren't Canadians.

At least the makers of these cutouts tried to provoke discussion on, I don't know, child soldiers, the nature of war, indefinite detention, equal protection for all citizens. What good are the brief, vitriolic responses on this story, where do they leave us and how do they further discourse? There seem to be a lot more reactionary Mark Steyn-ists on Toronto message boards lately, not actually debating anything, just being pissed-off all over everyone. How about debating the fact that the US is only nation, aside from Sudan, who hasn't signed the UN declaration of the rights of the child, and what this means for this case?

lots of incoherent angry people. Obsessively reading blogs (like something out of Pleasantville). They used to be confined to the Telegraph, Daily News, NYPost, etc - now they troll any newsboard. Virtual lives of virtual people. They dont even KNOW what the UDHR, the CCR, Cedaw, are - they're at the endless teaparty of the empire. No way to reach them, no way to educate them. They're the detritus of empire, and it's victims, but they don't even know it.

This is but one way the Muslim extremists could eventually crush the West: by choking up our courts and prisons. When it costs upwards of $50k a year to house one of these scoundrels in jail and when legal fees can mount into the millions and there are nearly a billion Muslims - well, you do the math.
They don't need to shell our cities with mortars directly. They can just bankrupt up, one frivolous case at a time.

"there are nearly a billion Muslims - well, you do the math."

as much as I feel disdain for this particular family I still do not believe that all muslims fall into category
sure there are a billion but what percentage of that are extremists?

I wish the mayoral election would end soon so that Rob Fords people would stop trolling all the blogs and message boards.

i think the us government are not fair, he should have had a trial 8 years ago this is ridiculous and unfair and must be very fustratin for him and his family. that jail is an act of terorrisom torturing people to death what is more unhuman than that??

This.

Thank God you don't get to decide who's Canadian or who isn't!
Just because your fam's been here for thirteen generations doesn't mean you're more CANADIAN. You're a tragedy, sorry to say this, but its your way of thinking that makes me ashamed to be Canadian.

Just because you have some issues with the historical treatment of natives doesn't give your muddled opinions and angry invective any more weight. He's on trial for a reason and unless any of us start throwing grenades at medics on a battlefield in Afghanistan then you have no valid comparison to make. We had enough of our troops killed by Afghans to have more killed by Canadian citizens. Maybe you could talk to the wife of the dead medic and explain your sob story about Khadr to her. She's at the trial, you know.

Just to appeal to your sense of equality I can tell you I want any 15 year old charged with murder prosecuted as an adult because they know the difference between right and wrong and they know that death is final. This wan't some babe in the woods.

"State-sponsored terrorism, governments are terrorists"--man, you just keep repeating that while you continue supporting this self-confessed murderer. Whatever makes you feel better.

he was:
a) a child soldier/combatant
b) in a country under invasion
c) jailed without ANY evidence - in fact, statements were retracted by his accuser that exonerated him
d) tortured

and is now being tried, defended, judged and juried by those who he is being accused of attacking/killing.

these are all indisputable and absolutely sickening FACTS.

Ask yourself this, if you're so outstanding a global citizen, so accepting a human being, would you invite Omar and his family to your house? No? Why not? Racist.

What makes you proud to be a canadian?

That hundreds of people die every day while our leader spends over 1.2 billion for 20 of the richest people in the world can get together for a quaint little picnic by a fake indoor lake.

That millions of people are either dead or homeless in afganistan,haiti,india and other parts of asia and were not even tossing pocket change at them hoping theyll just shut up and go away whil our government spends over $16 000 000 on faulty bomber jets.

That our government claimes to be one of democracy yet does everything in its power to opress and threaten and create fear for those that dare to enact on that democracy,thereby creating the perfect environment for dictatorship to flourish.

That more people care about so you think you can dance or american idol than who is running this country,who is making their laws,and taking their rights for granted. That more people tune out to tv than they actually read or think or question.

That theres no money for public education,for our failing healthcare system,for vital social reform programs but theres money for tax cuts for arms factories and weapons comapny looking to build on canadian soil.

That racism and hate crimes is up,not down but now the government doesnt want you to know or care...maybe these are those unreported crimes that they talk about,cuz look at these comments,fully unconcerned and full of flagrant racial sterotypes and instructions to go back home...

This is my home,I was born and raised here, as were my parents and so on....but I cant say I'm all that proud.

I cant say I'm proud of the bigotry splashed across the comment sections on every last newspaper blog and website.

I cant say I'm proud that predjudice and ignorance is praised over thoughtful contemplation and human empathy.

I cant say I'm proud that people are content to allow a child to pay for their parents crimes. That the justice system can pick and choose who gets justice and who doesnt.

I cant say I'm proud our democracy is being used as a mask for harpers distatorsip and autocracy.

That its now cool to hate anyone different from you,that anyone who doesnt share your opinion is somehow a traitor,a terrorist to this land...an undesirable to be shipped away from this land...not proud to be that kind of canadian...

So really if thats what it means to be a proud canadian then I'm not one.

I'm an ashamed canadian if ignorance and hate and racism is all that Canada's about...cuz if these comments are a reflection of what it means to be a candian then I was taught differently!
The history books told me different tales of freedom and of rights and visionaries willing to fight for them,than they did you.

I was brought up proud of our diversity and our democracy something that can not be selective, based on the colour of a persons skin.

Man, the hyperbole here reeks. Some people need to learn what true repression is, because anything they try to pin on Canada doesn't hold a candle to many nations around the world.

Throwing out the same tired "we treated the natives blah, blah blah" when many indigenous groups have been wiped out around the globe or "our government is corrupt and evil" when our government does more navel-gazing than most doesn't make sense. And throwing out "racism" and "redneck" and "tea-partiers" at opponents just shows ignorance of what those words actually mean and how weak your own argument is. There is no tea party movement in Canada--it's an American thing specific to a combination of libertarianism and right-wing extremism that involves a misinterpretation of the American constiutution. Please educate yourselves beyond the catchphrases bandied about within the of York U. and U of T.

I swear, half of these coddled people would die of an an apoplectic fit were they to actually experience life outside of this apparently repressive nation we call Canada.

If people want to be ashamed of being Canadian that's their business, but if they think its going to guilt and embarrass others into thinking the same way they are living in a dreamworld.

The Khadrs need to be held up and called out for what they are:terrorists. We need to disrupt and agitate and get in their face and call their jihad and fundraising terrorist camps for what they are. We need to speak loudly, clearly an proudly what it means to be a Canadian. But Omar is different. He didnt want to call his family after he had been captured. He was doing what his father told him to do, as children are wont to do. I have looked in Omar's eyes, watched the interoggation videos, read Guantamo's Child. I am telling you, Omar is one of us and could be a powerful and positive voice for change and reconciliation. Just when I think he has completely given up hope he comes out and wears a suit and starts to engage in his trial. I want us to have a debate about Omar and the whole wider discussion about what it means to be Canadian and what we do for each other when we are abroad

Little silly to make such a sweeping generalization like that, considering that it's a lot of 'white people' who are calling for his release/fair treatment/condemning the US for what they've done.

I need to hear exactly what Aida will change about that?!?

Lillie

I know this is probably off subject, but I'm wondering if anybody in this forum has experiance with e cigarettes?

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Thanks.