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Sprawling new water park proposed for Toronto

Posted by Derek Flack / March 18, 2014

Toronto waterparkToronto might get a sprawling 9,300 square-metre indoor/outdoor water park for the winter of 2016 if developer MarbleLIVE gets its way. Although very much in the preliminary stages, the company has announced its intentions to bring the venue to the GTA (Mississauga is also a possibility) for 2016 at an estimated cost of $60 million. It looks touristy as all hell, but the developer does have a point that Toronto isn't exactly flush with these kind of attractions. Sure we have indoor pools galore, but with Ontario Place in the process of redevelopment, there is a gap to be filled.

The idea here is to build an entire complex, one that would feature restaurants, retail, and live entertainment to go along with the water park itself. Before one gets too excited, however, it's worth pointing out that a location has yet to be secured for this recreational oasis. While there are apparently three spots in the running, I won't start worrying about what I look like in a swimsuit until shovels are in the ground. In the meantime, this little promo vid might get you dreaming of warmer days.


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53 Comments

sneaky...but i gotcha / March 18, 2014 at 11:18 am
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Why dont we just call it what it is....Great Wolf Lodge.
asif / March 18, 2014 at 11:20 am
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Wait..wait..wait..

Are you telling me people dont love going to the living hell that is Hwy 427 & Finch to go to Wild Water Kingdom?

I dont buy that for a second.
SYSS Mouse replying to a comment from sneaky...but i gotcha / March 18, 2014 at 11:25 am
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True, but Niagara Falls is not exactly in Toronto.
D / March 18, 2014 at 11:27 am
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Don't pee in the pool
?? replying to a comment from SYSS Mouse / March 18, 2014 at 11:28 am
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Whats the one in Niagara got to do with it?

They are simply building a new location in Toronto.
Miroslav Glavic replying to a comment from D / March 18, 2014 at 11:29 am
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There is something you can put in the water that turns blue when you pee in the pool.
Tory / March 18, 2014 at 11:30 am
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Can we spend the money investing in our beaches and waterfront instead? Toronto is right along lake Ontario, many are afraid to use our beaches and go in the lake due to the bad rap it received years ago when they had to be closed.

Why swim indoors when you could be swimming in lake Ontario? We should be creating a beach destination where tourists and residents can swim for free. Are they gonna open this park up for free on heatwave days? NO so its no help to anyone.
Miroslav Glavic / March 18, 2014 at 11:30 am
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I bet Derek Flack has a Borat speedo.
Miroslav Glavic replying to a comment from Tory / March 18, 2014 at 11:33 am
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Tory,

Not everyone is comfortable with touching the bottom of a lake, all those sea weeds, mushy bottom, fishes and other animals swimming around. NONE of those are in pools.

Pools can have that blue turning water when someone pees, lakes do not.
weeeeee / March 18, 2014 at 11:33 am
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Whats wrong with the beauty of a slide at the Delta Eatons Hotel?
SaM / March 18, 2014 at 11:35 am
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Great Wolf Lodge doesn't even allow day passes you have to book a room for at least 1 night stay.

They it's this is to avoid overcrowding for the hotel guests, but I'm pretty sure you can manage the crowd control with capacity at the entry gates.
IDSPISPOPD replying to a comment from Miroslav Glavic / March 18, 2014 at 11:38 am
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The blue pee story is a myth. Go back to trolling Paul Ainslie on twitter already.

floattttttt ! / March 18, 2014 at 11:39 am
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I highly suggest grabbing a nice sized inner tube tire and with another person, leave one car at the foot of the Credit River, and then drive up the river north.

Spend the day lazily floating all the way back down, you will have an absolute blast and see some really cool sights along the way.

Ive done it numerous times and cant tell you how fun it is.
iliveattheverve replying to a comment from Tory / March 18, 2014 at 11:40 am
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who is the "we" you are talking about? surely you don't think any level of government is paying for this.

private companies can't make money by cleaning up the public beaches.
steve replying to a comment from Miroslav Glavic / March 18, 2014 at 12:05 pm
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A myth put to rest decades ago. Were have you been?
Kate / March 18, 2014 at 12:05 pm
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All I can say is that's going to cost way over $60 mil.
wake up call replying to a comment from Tory / March 18, 2014 at 12:07 pm
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Firstly, people are sheep for assuming you cannot swim in our beaches. You can. They are clean. Maybe they should spend money educating people not to make such alarmist assumptions.

Secondly this is a private developer who is making a business proposition; he is not a charity giving away millions of dollars for other projects.
ladydan replying to a comment from floattttttt ! / March 18, 2014 at 12:10 pm
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Really?? that sounds awesome! more details please... I'd love to take my boys and try that!
Dingh / March 18, 2014 at 12:16 pm
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I can't wait to drop my kids off here, if you know what I mean.
floattttttt ! replying to a comment from ladydan / March 18, 2014 at 12:19 pm
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I recommend bigger car tire typed inner tubes.
Not small floaties from say Walmart.

Water levels can be tricky at certain parts of the river, so you risk your butt taking a beating, if you dont have a bigger, well inflated tube.

Other than than and being cautious obviously, you can pretty much start where you want and proceed to let the current take you back down. Meander the river, spot some interesting fish/animals along the shore.

Be advised there is certain spots you may have to get out and walk around and get back in due to reservoirs or other impediments. But nothing earth shattering.

You'll also likely want to finish your trip before you hit Port Credit, as then you are getting into a higher traffic part of the river, canoeists, etc. Nor do you want to end up entering the harbour.

Ive gone a few times over the years, even packed a little lunch.
Tory replying to a comment from wake up call / March 18, 2014 at 12:32 pm
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My point exactly, we should be spending money on enhancing our current beaches, promoting and educating residents and tourists how great our beaches are. We should not be spending any tax dollars doing research, surveys, polls and having this project go through the approval process.

Yes it is a private developer that thinks we're all sheep and that we want a water park in our city because other cities and towns have one. No thanks. We don't need a high priced water park in downtown Toronto. We've got plenty of city pools and beaches for people to enjoy. Next a private developer will be seeking tax breaks cause their bringing some jobs and tourism to the city.

THIS IS NOT NEEDED.
EveryonesOpinion replying to a comment from Tory / March 18, 2014 at 12:33 pm
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You can go swim in Lake Ontario in December all you want but I prefer to swim indoors.

A private company is building this, why would they want to clean up a public beach?
Tory replying to a comment from EveryonesOpinion / March 18, 2014 at 01:04 pm
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So you can't swim in an indoor city pool they're all over the place. Some hotels in the city allow day swimming as well.

I'm saying if we had a vibrant beaches there wouldn't be demand for an indoor water park, not that a private investor would fund it. Although there are outdoor water parks on beaches and in lakes and oceans.

Ultimately I don't care what the private investor does until once approved they they start reaching out for tax dollars. Sounds like a failed idea to me. Once its built and starts failing they'll start reaching out for help to keep it going, we've heard it many times. A complex this big can't fail we just need a 20Million investment from the government to keep the jobs and the tourism involved.
Jeff / March 18, 2014 at 01:05 pm
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Ohhh can this complex house a casino as well? Or is that in the hidden plans?
stanley / March 18, 2014 at 01:21 pm
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our beaches are clean. people can and do go to our beaches. the city does advertise our beaches. this looks really good, and will be used by a lot of people. its a great escape for kids and adults alike. and being opened 12 months a year will work in their benefit. i like it. lets do it.
Patrick / March 18, 2014 at 01:23 pm
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I really hope it is similar to this, think big people!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2236995/The-worlds-largest-indoor-beach-German-countryside.html
Bill replying to a comment from Patrick / March 18, 2014 at 01:58 pm
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If is an indoor beach LOVE IT! But indoor pools and water slides is not appealing more than once
jd83 / March 18, 2014 at 02:05 pm
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They should have bought Skydome when they had the chance to buy it on the cheap. Expand the hotel (Imagine suites wrapping around the dome). Include other activities such as elaborate rock climbing, etc. But really have it all make it seem like another world. Like being in a rainforest...

Much like the Tropical Island Resort in Krausnick posted above.
iSkyscraper / March 18, 2014 at 02:51 pm
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These sorts of things are not uncommon these days. Looks very similar to what Jay Peak (VT) put in not long ago, or as already noted, any Great Wolf Lodge:

http://www.jaypeakresort.com/pumphouse/waterpark/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gef5iRRNMTc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Wolf_Resorts

One thing is for sure -- will not be cheap. Figure $40 min plus tax, lockers, expensive food, etc.

It has nothing to do with tourism other than the most local kind. Don't believe the developer hype. Nice to have, sure - families will love it in winter. But no one is driving in from Sandusky, Ohio for this (because they will probably just go to the Great Wolf Lodge in Sandusky).

However, it would be ideal if this was placed either downtown or in a densifying suburban node so that the customer traffic helped to build an entertainment area up rather than contribute to sprawl. One can dream.
Eric / March 18, 2014 at 03:10 pm
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Love it! with shops and attractions! Sound like the West Edmonton Mall, thier water park there is so choice!

http://www.wem.ca/media/tenants/world-waterpark/world-waterpark-tenant-image.jpg
Miroslav Glavic / March 18, 2014 at 03:12 pm
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So criticizing Paul Ainslie's actions is trolling?
Miroslav Glavic / March 18, 2014 at 03:20 pm
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A place like this is needed. It will bring jobs
427/finch place is garbage and Wonderland is too far.
Mike / March 18, 2014 at 03:38 pm
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Downtown is the last place we need this thing. Too much stuff shoehorned in there already. And sorry, but a gussied-up West Ed mall with an indoor beach sounds frankly unappealing. Additionally, iSkyscraper is right about the admission fees, to which you can add overpriced food and drink, and the retail shopping. At the end of the day, probably marginally less expensive than loading the family onto a plane for a real beach.
whoa... / March 18, 2014 at 03:44 pm
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@ Mike:
Seriously, you are thinking a day out at this proposed place will be the equivalent of a trip to Florida with your whole family?!?! What exactly do you imagine the entrance fee to be? $2000 per person? You don't think people have to eat or drink when they fly down south? Should none of us go to the new Aquarium because we have the alternative to fly to Tahiti if we want?
You can sit on Ashbridge Bay beach 365 days a year for free if you like, but this is appealing to a different crowd.
Jim Smith / March 18, 2014 at 03:52 pm
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Grew up in the prairies, spent my summers on one of the many beautiful beaches in Northern Saskatchewan. But my families annual trip to the West Edmonton Mall waterpark was a highlight of my childhood.

Bring it on, would love to have something like this to take my daughter to in the dead of winter.
iSkyscraper / March 18, 2014 at 04:06 pm
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Keep in mind that "Too much stuff shoehorned in there already" is the difference between a vibrant downtown that powers a region everyone wants to live in, compared to, say, Detroit.

But point taken that this is a family type place that needs to have good transport by car and that makes downtown a tough candidate. I would just like to see it go into VMC or at the end of the future Eglinton Line by the airport or somewhere with good transit that will allow everyone to get to it, no matter where from, and provide traffic on foot and car to end up with something more than a covered box surrounded by parking.
Janet / March 18, 2014 at 04:29 pm
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While were entertaining crazy ideas put in the island and dome the entire toronto islands
W. K. Lis replying to a comment from Mike / March 18, 2014 at 04:37 pm
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Ontario Place, Portlands, or East Waterfront in Toronto.

If it has to be in Mississauga, better if next door to the Hurontario LRT or the Mississauga Transitway.

If must be accessible to people without cars or chauffeurs.
Tory replying to a comment from iSkyscraper / March 18, 2014 at 05:00 pm
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That's why I mentioned price earlier but everyone tore me a new one.

Yes its pricey to do things in the city, you can always use the city pools all summer long for free if you can't afford other things. ALSO what happened to people bringing their own lunch and snacks? Do you have to pay to eat everywhere you go?

Ripley's Aquairum $30 ,
AGO $19.50 general admission only
ROM $16 general admission only
Wonderland $39.99
The EX $18 admission only
Science Center $ 22.00

GREAT WOLF LODGE - doesn't allow day swimming passes, you must book a room and be a hotel guest to enter/swim.
JerryTodd / March 18, 2014 at 05:10 pm
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There are already tons of beaches in southern Ontario as well as Canada's Wonderland and Wild Water Kingdom. This place either needs to be downtown or not at all. We already have lots of access to water and waterparks that are within and hour or so travel, even on the GO bus.
nic / March 18, 2014 at 05:40 pm
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It wont take long for it to be overrun by under 22 year olds with no money acting obnoxiously, fighting and acting like hooligans.
ay\\Aydin / March 18, 2014 at 05:45 pm
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I'm surprised they're taking the gamble of using Disney Parks footage in their promotional video. I seriously doubt that whatever they build will be able to fulfill the promise of Splash Mountain that they're insinuating.

If I were them, I'd reedit this ASAP before getting a Cease and Desist letter from the mouse.
Sarah / March 18, 2014 at 07:58 pm
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Lets send it to the mouse for appoval
Holy Thundering Jesus / March 18, 2014 at 09:16 pm
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Where's the Monorail!

Monorail!
Monorail!
Monorail!
Basshat / March 18, 2014 at 10:39 pm
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"...its intentions to bring the venue to the GTA (Mississauga is also a possibility)"

So Mississauga is no longer part of the GTA? (Cue hipster snobs.)
DSWT6 / March 19, 2014 at 12:07 am
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Y'all do realize from the photos the sky in Torotno rarely looks clear and blue. Most days its smoggy and grey overcast............
Ana replying to a comment from iSkyscraper / March 19, 2014 at 12:13 pm
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Summer all year long sounds lovely. Canadian flowers and trees etc in January!!! But sadly the proposal is merely an American theme park, plastic looking plants and fake fake tropical trees with water games to amuse the kiddies. A fun day for some but hardly tourist attraction! Just imagine how some other City with imagination might have brought us a year round Summer! Let us hope no real trees or beautiful shore lines are ruined to make some developers richer
can't believe it replying to a comment from Ana / March 19, 2014 at 01:09 pm
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LOL! Yes, "another city" would do it so much better. Just imagine. Such low self esteem.
What would be a Canadian theme? Snow and ice in July? Has it occurred to you that the trees look plastic because it is just a promotional video, and not the real thing?
Kelly / March 19, 2014 at 01:30 pm
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A great idea for the city! Winter is too long, this would give us a bit of summer all year! They make these with retractable roofs, like the Americana in niagara falls has. Would definitely need an adult-only area with a swim-up bar!
Jimi replying to a comment from floattttttt ! / March 19, 2014 at 07:39 pm
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Sounds awesome.

Even more details please... Where did you park the cars? How long of a floattttttt down is it? What did you pack for lunch?
Tory Wank / March 20, 2014 at 07:44 am
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Swimming in Lake Ontario lmao. Indoor water parks are mostly a winter attraction. You know, Winter? That thing we just had for 5+ months? I don't see many people swimming in the dirty cold lake now do you?
Henson / April 13, 2014 at 06:41 pm
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On Friday August 18th 2017 if there is an Appreciation Day on "Breakfast Television" live on CITY-TV Toronto me and my girlfriend will go to the new waterpark in Toronto to meet Jennifer Valentyne and we will be live on T.V. but we have to bring our swimsuits, towels and lotion but we have to be there early because it will be live on T.V. at 5:30Am
mike / August 7, 2014 at 12:49 am
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hey check out this new water park montage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpZ3zJKbAoc

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