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Indie Alehouse

Posted by Staff / Reviewed on October 21, 2012 / review policy

Indie AlehouseIndie Alehouse is the much-anticipated brewpub that has finally opened on Dundas Street in the once-dry Junction. With an opening date that was long-delayed by red tape, construction woes, and unexpected surprises, anticipation about Indie Alehouse among Junction residents, the city's foodies, and beer fans alike has been mounting. But as I found out on a recent visit, the neighbourhood's long-awaited first brewpub actually manages to meet all those expectations and provides a dining experience that's likely to please almost everyone.

The space, once occupied by Reitmans, has been extensively renovated, including a new facade and some more technical work to ensure that the heavy on-site brewing equipment rests firmly on the old building's basement I-beams. The decor and vibe are well-suited to the food and beer menus in that everything here suggests upscale pub.

Indie Alehouse TorontoSubdued furniture in wood with exposed brick walls are accented by slightly more elegant touches like a slick marble bar and a punched-tin ceiling, with a handful of interesting pieces acquired from local reclaimed furniture stores Smash and Forever Interiors. It's the kind of unpretentiously rustic place that will appeal equally to the scene-oriented set and Junction locals looking to have an after-work pint — of which both demographics were clearly represented on the Wednesday evening I visited.

Indie AlehouseTo start the evening I had a pint of one of Indie Alehouse Brewing Company's staple beers, their Instigator IPA. It was a great coppery-coloured pint with good head and mild citrus aromas. There's a pleasant hop bite with a subtle malty backbone and a classic American pale ale bitter finish. I was immediately impressed and anxious to try Indie's other brews, which include a phenomenal Breakfast Porter ($6 for 16oz), their Red Tape Stout — named in honour of the difficulties getting the place up and running — ($5.50 for 9oz), and their Pumpkin Abbey, a beer that will change the way you think about pumpkin beers ($5.50 for 9oz).

Indie AlehouseOnce my guest/photographer arrived, we ordered Indie's Chacuterie Platter ($19), a rotating selection of meats that head chef Patrick Fraser, formerly of Salt, has had brought in from Dolce Lucano in Woodbridge. Tonight it's wild boar sausage, spicy fennel cacciatora, and cured beef served with some pickled onions, radish, and grapes. All the meat was excellent, though it was arguably a little small for two people to share — especially two hungry people currently drinking great pints of beer.

Indie AlehouseFor dinner, we order the Smoked Pulled Pork Sandwich ($13) and the Three Little Pigs Pizza ($15), which includes smoked pork, more wild boar sausage, and Berkshire pork belly. Two meals, it turns out, that are pretty solid choices and representative of the food Indie Alehouse does best given that the kitchen includes a pizza oven and an in-house smoker.

Indie AlehouseThe Three Little Pigs Pizza was great and, to borrow from the wrong children's story, was just right. No topping overwhelmed any of the others — there was no over-abundance of sauce or cheese and, remarkably, despite three iterations of pig on the dish, it wasn't too salty or heavy.

The pulled pork was likewise satisfying. The meat was cooked to a point where it was perfectly soft, but just short of dry, and was smothered with just the right amount of Carolina BBQ sauce. The sandwich came with fries and house cole slaw.

Aside from the pizza offerings, the other menu items echo the upscale pub vibe with snacky yet interesting options like Parmesan and Sage Popcorn served with whipped bacon fat butter ($3), Chilli and Cheese Fries ($9), and even Mac and Cheese — albeit mac and cheese with portobello, oyster, and honey mushrooms ($11).

By about 7:30pm, the place was starting to get full, despite the fact that there's still been no official opening yet, aside from "a few tweets." Owner Jason Fisher says a lot of their business thus far is thanks to enthusiastic locals. "They seem pretty happy we're here and they've been extremely helpful. I wouldn't be here without the support of the Junction."

Indie AlehouseAnd while some people seem to wander in not quite knowing what they're getting into — I overheard a customer try to order a Fosters — it seems pretty clear that they're all won over by the time they leave; a fact made all the more clear by the line that was forming at Indie's small retail space, which currently sells 1.9 litre growlers of their staple beers.

Clearly, the Junction is happy that the Indie Alehouse has finally arrived, and it won't be long before the rest of the city gets on board too.

For more on Indie Alehouse's beers, check out Ben's Beer Blog.

Indie AlehousePhotos by Paul Aihoshi.

Discussion

55 Comments

lister / October 21, 2012 at 06:08 am
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Was there last night. A guy sat next to us at the bar and asked for the coldest, lightest beer they had. *facepalm*

Anyways, good beers, good food though the portion sizes were a little small especially the mac & cheese, lose the arugala salad and make the M&C bigger. Biggest miss were the fries. In the chilli cheese fries the fries were like they were only blanched. With the shrimp po' boy they were better but could use a little more time in the fryer.
Rick / October 21, 2012 at 09:00 am
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Was there last night. Great beers. Especially the darks - dark wheat in particular was excellent. Also enjoyed their light wheat and rye ale. Food was spot on.
Matt / October 21, 2012 at 10:08 am
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Great place--growlers are really pricey though. $18 to $22 plus for a fill is more than I've ever paid for a growler anywhere.
Christopher / October 21, 2012 at 10:46 am
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Went and tried it out last Monday. The beer was fantastic! The brewmaster was helping out with service and very friendly, unfortunately our food was taking way to long to get to us and I had to leave for awhile to pick someone up. At this point we had to move from the bar to a table. Of course our food came just as I had left. It had been 45 minutes since we ordered. Instead of apologizing and offering to keep our food warm or redo it, it was just left on the table with no thought. Needless to say the food was cold when I got back and we could not wait any longer to reorder. Being in the industry, I found that the wait service was lacking. Found the food, meh, but willing to give it another shot.
PDG / October 21, 2012 at 11:17 am
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Great addition to my neighbourhood, and so glad it's finally open! Have been twice. I like the service, and that the place is packed speaks to how anticipated this has been. I'd ask the brewmaster to rethink the hops in some of the recipes, though. I want my beer to taste like beer, not a Greens+ packet. Really good quality, and they obviously care about what they do, but how about this as a challenge: brew a classic pilsner in the Czech style, and don't add flavouring or extra handfuls of hops to the brew, and see how that turns out? Or even a classic lager or ale? Trying to make beer into something like molecular gastronomy means the beer's hiding behind a lot of flavouring ingredients.
Rick replying to a comment from Christopher / October 21, 2012 at 11:20 am
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So you left for 45 minutes and were irritated that your food was cold? Being in the industry, do you typically serve meals around the schedules of patrons who choose to run errands while dining?
Bubba / October 21, 2012 at 11:30 am
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Great addition to the hood! Congrats on finally opening!
Junctionite replying to a comment from PDG / October 21, 2012 at 11:46 am
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A unique brew pub opens in our neighbourhood, brewing fantastic examples of different styles of beers, and you want them to brew boring lagers you can get at any other shitty bar?
AV replying to a comment from Junctionite / October 21, 2012 at 12:00 pm
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Amen Junctionite, amen. Go to Gabbys for some Molsons PDG
PDG / October 21, 2012 at 03:22 pm
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Junctionite and AV, I didn't say it's not a great place, or that craft brewing's 'shitty'. I was only hoping that they'd also brew a basic brew to show what they can do with a classic recipe. I guess my having lived in Czechoslovakia, where some of the world's best beer is made, or my having toured microbreweries there with master brewers doesn't qualify me to express an opinion. You might consider enrolling in the Rhetoric class I teach at a post-secondary institution. We learn about humility and fairmindedness and respect in communication, rather than slinging insults at those with whom we don't agree.
Great Pizza Glap / October 21, 2012 at 04:20 pm
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Junctionite and AV: what are you talking about? It's true that most over-marketed terrible beers (Molson Canadian etc.) are pale lagers, but there are excellent pale lagers out there too. Good beer doesn't *have* to be hopped to the extreme or use unusual flavourings, though of course there's room for that sort of thing.
heather / October 21, 2012 at 05:38 pm
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looks like they don't have a menu up on the website yet ... do they have vegetarian meals? or gluten-free beers/food? :) (it's a burden to be a gluten-free vegetarian that likes pubs, i know!)
mark / October 21, 2012 at 05:57 pm
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PDG Why the would an ALEHOUSE brew a lager or a pilsner? Its not a lagerhouse. Typically ales are hoppy and there are beers there that don't have hops.
Christopher replying to a comment from Rick / October 21, 2012 at 06:31 pm
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Didn't leave for 45 minutes. We had already been waiting for 45 minutes for the food.
Bill Jr. / October 21, 2012 at 11:15 pm
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Sweet Jesus.
This review is a grammatical nightmare.
Strunk, Bill, Jr.
Beer nerd replying to a comment from PDG / October 22, 2012 at 01:34 am
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The success of beer styles is dependent upon the mineral content of the water source. The same water that makes Pilsner Urquell so delicious would unlikely be optimal for a stout. Perhaps you should give the brewmaster the benefit of the doubt (seeing how it's his profession) and assume that the water source he uses is best suited for ales. If you want a Czech-style lager, go to an LCBO.
Rob / October 22, 2012 at 06:15 am
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I went to x country. x country was great. Everything that I ate and drank in x country was amazing. Everything in x country is better than Toronto. I now want everything I eat and drink to taste like y.

This is what happens when you go on one vacation to x country.
Marcus replying to a comment from Matt / October 22, 2012 at 09:44 am
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$18 to $22 for a Growler? You kidding me!?!? That must have included a $5 deposit for the growler itself and next time it will be $13 to $17. It's gotta be..... never gonna be the $8 or $9 they charge at places in Syracuse, but y'all know what 'Merica is like.
Daniel / October 22, 2012 at 10:22 am
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Growlers are $20 for a fill, plus the $4 deposit for the bottle. $24 is a lot for a growler. After waiting for this place to open I'm disappointed the growler isn't priced similarly to Granite Brewery's or Millstreet's prices. Sadly at this price point I will still have to head to the LCBO at keele and st.clair.

It is a welcome addition to the neighbourhood.
Joan Libowski / October 22, 2012 at 11:01 am
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Four Pints in a growler. I think they're priced fairly. People find the silliest things to complain about. You are able to bring a craft beer home with you. I plan on bringing a growler instead of a bottle of wine when I am invited to friends houses for dinner parties.
C.B / October 22, 2012 at 11:18 am
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Christopher, I would say give this restaurant time to get it's feet on the ground (re: getting food to you quick). Most restaurants are still working out the kinks in their first week or two being open and I'm sure the service will get better. Can't wait to give this place a try! Hear the beer is great.
Daniel replying to a comment from Joan Libowski / October 22, 2012 at 12:06 pm
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Really Joan? Silly things?

Mill Street Growler - $12.50
Granite Brewery Growler - $12
Indie Ale House Growler - $20


Rob replying to a comment from C.B / October 22, 2012 at 04:09 pm
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Hate this, yet it always gets bandied about as if it's some kind of rule to give a restaurant, in a city with thousands of them, a mulligan.

If you're still "working out the kinks" while officially accepting the public's money, you probably should have remained closed until you, ya know, worked out those kinks.
Franco / October 22, 2012 at 05:40 pm
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I went there yesterday afternoon and enjoyed it. I don't know why Rob is being so critical, every establishment deserves to learn from mistakes and grow, and that usually can't happen until they open and receive feedback from their customers. Enjoy the ride.
Toronto Taxi / October 22, 2012 at 07:58 pm
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Great Foods nice and Beers they need to be improved little more
evan / October 23, 2012 at 02:16 am
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Very excited to go and try these amazing sounding beers, but I too am sad that their growler prices are not competitive with the likes of the Granite. Maybe 20 dollars up front and a 16 dollar fill? And even that's pretty pricey in my books. I can get 2 litres of very very good beer from the LCBO for much much less.
evan / October 23, 2012 at 02:21 am
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And for the record, I wouldn't balk at an 8 dollar pint or even the occasional bottle far north of $10, but growlers=retail, and if they want my retail business, I expect competitive prices.
Rob replying to a comment from Franco / October 23, 2012 at 10:31 am
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It's not being critical. I don't know how you got that.

It's about not buying the "working out the kinks" nonsense. You work out the kinks before you start accepting the public's money... or your reputation suffers because you rushed things. Period.

Maybe if you eat out every single day, you're willing to give second and third chances to professional chefs, professional waitstaff, and professional restauranteurs, but few of us have that luxury. I want these kinks worked out before I decide to visit one establishment over the thousands of others I can choose from. Saying "oh, it's their first week" is nonsense.
Acacia / October 23, 2012 at 03:27 pm
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But a lot of kinks are worked out by trying to anticipate how many people are going to be coming out. A lot of places get a bigger rush than they could ever hope for when they first open and they have to work out little kinks here and there like hiring and training more staff, etc.
Rob / October 23, 2012 at 03:35 pm
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Then you have a soft opening. Or several, until you're ready to present your wares to the public.

Not being able to perform properly because you have too many customers is a loser's excuse.
Rob / October 23, 2012 at 03:38 pm
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I'm not trying to be a pest about this.

But I find Toronto diners very complacent. And complacency breeds shit. I don't want restaurants to turn to shit because they know they can get away with it.
jasmine / October 24, 2012 at 01:36 am
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rob, currently they are having a soft opening since they have not had a grand opening. they have too many customers because what they produce is spectacular. i'm sorry you think the restaurant is "shit" because i personally think it is fantastic
Rob replying to a comment from jasmine / October 24, 2012 at 09:48 am
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L2read. I never said the restaurant was shit.
Sousedbergin / October 24, 2012 at 10:11 am
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Love this place and loved the beers. In order Instigator, Pumpkin and the Stout rounding out the top three, have not had the porter yet. Took my puppy on walks and fed her treats upon arriving at the front during construction, she now drags me to beer. Again only complaint is the price of growlers. At $12-$16 a growler Indie would have 100% of my Toronto retail beer purchases which is about $24 weekly.
Mark replying to a comment from Rob / October 24, 2012 at 09:28 pm
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Rob: I'm confused. Are you upset about the Indie Alehouse specifically, or Toronto's restaurant culture generally?
BL / October 25, 2012 at 08:11 pm
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Wow, such nonsense from commenters. It's no wonder fewer places don't open in the city.

The beer is amazing, the food is just as good. The staff, decor and 'hood - all match. The growlers are on the high end, but they sell out daily! So hard to argue. I think Bellwoods is in the same range (?)

If a 6-pack of Sam Adams is $18+ tax at the LCBO is it not worth supporting a local brewery for better, fresh beer? If you don't think so - go elsewhere and quit whining on the internet.

Rob - get out of your mothers basement and go kiss a girl.
Steve / October 25, 2012 at 08:57 pm
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So I went there to get a "Growler" ( a 1.9l take away beer for $20) and was waiting 10 minutes in a line of 3(that did not move) so I gave up. I went back today at about 4:40pm and had to track down someone to serve me. I was informed by the gentleman that the retail area opens at 5. He then said he would serve me and proceeded to hand me the jug. He then asked me to walk over to the busy bar and ask the bartender to get me the beer I wanted. At that point I said no worries I will just go to the LCBO. Then he got mad at me and said "What you can't walk over to the bar!!" I just said no thanks I would rather go to the LCBO. He then said "well then don't come back and tell all your friends not to come here as we don't want them!"
If he had of just went and got the beer there would never have been a problem but I guess he was having a bad day. Why is it the customers job to go get the beer at this place ? Seems like the retail end is a big pain in the ass for them. To bad I really like there beer and would have been a loyal lifelong customer and recommended it to everyone I know (basically everyone in the Junction) But he has advised me to do the opposite for some reason.
Dave1 / October 26, 2012 at 09:23 am
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Steve,

I was there, sitting next to the retail store, you were a douchebag.

You threw a fit when you were asked to go pay at an empty bar after they went out of their way to serve you before the retail store opened! I got excited because I was waiting to buy a growler when they opened and did so right after you left in a snit because he asked you to go pay at the bar because he was not set up yet.

Then you got snarky and started ranting about the price, LCBO etc. You didn't need to get the beer, just pay at the cash register. Seemed very reasonable, I had no problem with it.

Maybe you both were having a bad day, the guy got angry when you started ranting and saying the beer was not good then he basically said just leave if you want to go the the LCBO. He was upset after you left and felt bad, but very confused why you wouldn't pay at the bar and how you snapped from wanting a growler to the LCBO is better in one second. Like you were looking for trouble.

They sell out of growlers every day, I go early to get mine, sounds like you will be much happier at the LCBO. More for me.

BL - Amazing comments - harsh though, but amazing.


Paul replying to a comment from BL / October 26, 2012 at 09:45 am
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BL- Comparing Growler prices with a six pack of imported beer at the LCBO? How does that even compare? A local brew pub's pricing should have nothing in common with a government agency that only allow bigger names to compete in their market.

As for whining and going elsewhere, well people will do just that. You can lay down and take the nearly 50% price increase and be happy. I'm sure other locally brewed growlers will follow suit to match this "fair" price, especially with more people like your self that don’t have a clue about market value.

Steve replying to a comment from Dave1 / October 26, 2012 at 10:34 am
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Dave,

I really don't recall anyone else there but myself and the gentleman that was working there. I guess you are the guy working there(nice try). You should just sell customers beer and not give them attitude, I was very calm, if thats how you describe "throwing a fit" you really have bad judgement. And also I never said anything negative about your beer, Your beer is excellent (maybe slightly over priced but I can live with that) , Too bad I will never buy your beer. If your going to have a retail outlet you should try to make it easy for customers to buy it. No one wants to line up for 15 minutes or be sent here and there to do work YOU should be doing.
Good Luck!
Dave1 replying to a comment from Steve / October 28, 2012 at 06:41 pm
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So the place was crowded in your version of the fairytale but you don't recall anyone around? Really?

I was sitting in the booth next to the retail store. That guy was the owner, I think. He went out of his way to serve you and you wanted more and for sure threw a fit. Ask your friends if you have any, they will tell you that you are a whinny goof.

I spoke with him after when I got a growler and he was in shock about how bad some customers are. Seriously people want better beer and places to eat and drink then shit all over when they are not treated like royalty.

Please stay away and make it easier for me to get a seat.


David replying to a comment from Rob / October 31, 2012 at 10:28 am
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Rob,

I guess I'm fairly sympathetic to your point--I hate the idea of a blanket excuse for providing a sub-par product for customers' hard-earned money--but with some really large caveats.

First, I don't think you understand what a soft opening is. In some cases it means you only invite friends in and comp part (or all) of their bill. In others, this case included, it just means that you quietly open the doors for a few weeks before promoting your official launch and hope that reviewers are civilised enough to wait a couple weeks.

Secondly, and probably more importantly, both of our frustration is not going to change the fact that what a restaurant is like in its first week is never representative of what it will be like in week four, 12, or 36. It's a complex operation that involves delivering a product to unknown customers in less than ninety minutes. Often new restaurants have people doing jobs they've never done before.

That's why I won't pay to eat at a restaurant that is less than three weeks old. I definitely wouldn't take a review written based on visits during that window seriously.
steve replying to a comment from Dave1 / November 3, 2012 at 01:57 pm
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LOL funny story!
jennsanerd / November 10, 2012 at 10:26 am
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Was here with some friends last night. I thought everything was great! We ordered a variety of beer and shared a few dishes. The toadstool pizza was crispy and hot, and the Mac n cheese was soooo creamy. Really nice staff as well. It was a busy night, but all of the food and drinks arrived at our table in a timely manner. I highly recommend. Hope you all don't mind my non-hater review ;)
JOE / November 11, 2012 at 12:07 am
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The place seems to have been opened by someone who thinks that the beer is everything. The beers seem very good.

But they need improvement in:

-the glaring fluorescent light from the kitchen is brutal. Destroys what there is of ambiance in the restaurant. The disparity in colour between the incandescent in the restaurant and the fluorescent in the kitchen is painful. This could be remedied by dramatically reducing the pass through to the kitchen or changing the lighting.

- there are too many hard surfaces that reflect the sound in an unpleasant manner. The tin ceiling makes the normal restaurant din painful to the ear.

- the granite bar is too narrow and the absence of coasters....

- there needs to be more floor mats behind the bar - this area is wet and slippery and someone will be injured.

- there are too many bare walls and the paint colour does not compliment the flooring. It appears thee may be plans for further enhancement in this area.

- the vestibule - entryway is harsh and that bleeds into the rest of the space.

- The pizza seems to be made upon purchased wafer and is not pleasant.

- The pulled pork feels like a Sysco product - maybe it is - and is not very good.

- The plates are cold - the food was served on cold plates and the food rendered cold.

- There is no ice machine. Ice is to beverage as tissue is to a washroom.

- The music needs attention - it should sound good.

- The bartenders ought wear aprons of some uniform of sorts.

I would not recommend this restaurant to a friend. That aside - assuming that they are well financed (dubious) and have spent south of $3MM to open - they should survive for a year and by that time things will have improved. The management ought take a lesson from Barque on Roncesvalles.
Mark replying to a comment from JOE / November 11, 2012 at 10:49 am
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Oh my god! I guess the important thing is that you survived.
Lucid replying to a comment from JOE / November 13, 2012 at 03:08 pm
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This is the stupidest comment I have ever read. The light in the kitchen is different? There are no mats behind the bar? Please get a life. "Ice is to beverage as tissue is to a washroom."

Too bad / November 13, 2012 at 08:32 pm
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Their growlers are too expensive. It's silly trying to justify it because it's a microbrewery. Market pricing for microbrewery growlers is $12-16. It's not a choice between "this or the lcbo." I've bought lots of growlers from micros.. $20 is not competitive.

I won't buy from their retail store and I'm going to save my money for the junction brewery retail. That just is not reasonable pricinn.
D / November 23, 2012 at 09:05 am
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The beer here is pricy, but wonderful. Very consistent quality. I am a huge fan of sours and the Spadina Monkey hits the spot. I really wish that they would serve it in larger glasses. I think selling any of their beers in smaller formats than 12oz is silly.

As for the food, I can't speak for the meat dishes, but the vegetarian ones are underwhelming. The arugula and goat cheese pizza is boring. The cheese platter is tiny (really - 3 slices of cheese). The strawberry and arugula salad is good, but not great. The mac and cheese is great, but it would be nice to have another veggie option other than the one pizza.
SousedBergin replying to a comment from Mark / November 23, 2012 at 10:59 am
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I like what you did there.
TonyT replying to a comment from JOE / November 24, 2012 at 02:45 am
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Dear Joe,

I have been to this Brewpub three times now and your review was one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read. I have never posted a review or commented on one for that matter, but I rely on them for useful information. I can not help but reply to your comment.

-Lighting and noise are a real thing. Useful info for us consumers. However..
-If you want cocktails with ice, don't go to a brewery. Go to a winery some time and ask for a mixed drink and see how many pass you the cocktail list.
-The bar is 2 feet wide. Are you playing risk or putting together a giant puzzle? How wide does it need to be for you?
-I dont understand why you would mention floor mats for the staff. What does that have to do with your experience and how is that going to help me or anyone else in deciding whether or not to come here? Not helpful in the least.
-Cold plates in a bar? MAybe they should invest in a $3000 plate warmer so your burger bun doesn't get cold.
-What was wrong with the music? Too loud? Blown speakers? Were they listening to Nickleback? Again, this comment was of no help.
-The bartenders need aprons??? Are you kidding me? How and why does this bother you??

Furthermore, I hope to read more reviews from you. Your useless and misdirected comments made my night. They were all amazing.



JOE replying to a comment from TonyT / November 24, 2012 at 09:17 am
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Well, if you are going to eat food made tepid from a cold plate in a harshly lit place with blaring tinny music that hurts the ears rather than adding to the experience and then pay about $80 for dinner while the designated driver has $3.50 soft drinks without ice - all of the little things matter.

I suspect the owners have a lot of cash invested - and if some reparable items are killing the overall experience then let em know so they may get on with the fixups.

Andrew / November 24, 2012 at 02:59 pm
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heh, some funny comments here. I work in the neighbourhood and have been at least once a week since they opened. The Mushroom Mac and Cheese is like a mini religious experience (ok, a bit of hyperbole there) and no complaints about the beer. Not sure what the justification for charging so much for a growler is but that's their decision and it doesn't stop me from buying one every once in a while. I'm certainly never gonna make the trek to Granite or Mill Street just for a growler and I much prefer this beer to Granite's. Service was really slow when I first started going but it had greatly improved. I really like the staff. I think some people have some valid complaints here but, as mentioned, they are in a soft opening and I feel things get better and better. With these signs of progress and just that I'm super thankful to have such a place nearby, I have no problem giving them my money while they work out the kinks. They definitely need a vegan option, though. I'm a carnivore myself but my co-worker can only ever get fries. They are apparently working on it and once they do, we'll probably be there even more!
Stephen replying to a comment from PDG / January 18, 2013 at 11:11 am
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Bravo PDG. I went back to look at your comment and couldn't find the reason for asking you to shuffle off to Gabby's.

Damn trolls.
El Mas Chingon / April 15, 2013 at 11:53 pm
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very amusing comments.
i haven't been since the fall. i usually just go to 3030.

i have to agree with Joe regarding the hard surfaces. it really affects the sound. the bare walls affect the ambiance (i'm guessing they've put stuff up since the soft launch), the entrance is weird and the music was unpleasant. but i think that had a lot to do with the hard reflective surfaces.

i'll make the effort to pop in this week.

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