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Hatiras Weighs in on Toronto's Scene

Posted by Corina / April 2, 2009

HatirasWith so many fresh big bass beats flowing from his decks, it's easy to overlook the fact that Hatiras has been a key figure in Toronto's electronic music scene for over a decade.

As one of the brains behind the Liquid Adrenaline production company, George Hatiras has worked hard to promote some of Toronto's most innovative electronic events. As an artist on Beatport, Hatiras has put out some of the most awesome bass-driven beats the city's ever seen. He's also sold over a half-million records, operates two record labels, has two Junos under his belt AND recently received a 2009 nomination for Get Blahsted with MC Flipside.

So what does this influential electronic artisan have to say about his experiences in Toronto's scene? Here's what he shared about his adventures in the industry, and the current state of Toronto electronic scene.

When did you first start your career as a DJ/producer?

I used to be a party promoter back in the mid 90's. I ran a rave company called Liquid Adrenaline and wanted to create audio shout-outs and intros for my resident DJs to play at my events.

At the time, this was a complicated process (it was before you could just burn a CD and play it out at a show). I had to rent studio time from a friend, record the intros and then pay for one-off vinyl pressings of the audio (called "dubplates"). When I did that, it sparked my interest in music production so I saved up some money and bought an EMU sampler, an Atari computer, a Roland MC-303 Groovebox and a mixing board. After months of dabbling with the equipment (quite religiously), I made a demo CD of my productions. A friend (actually MC Flipside) got the CD into the hands of Bad Boy Bill. Bill loved my sound so much that he offered me an album deal with his Chicago-based record label IHR (International House Records). This was back in 1998 or so.

Ok, but where did the first inspiration to DJ comes from?

As far as DJing goes - I remember messing around with a double tape deck as a child. I used to record mixes from local Toronto radio shows like Dave's Dance Music or Peter, Tyrone and Sham's Fear Edit.

I would edit the music, make mixed tapes and sell them from there. Yes, it was a criminal activity at the time but I was 12 and I did it for the love, and ended up giving away more tapes than I sold ;) I also gave a bunch of tapes to clothing stores at the local mall. It felt good to walk into the shops and hear my mixes blasting. Of course, at the time, finding any electronic or underground music was a total treasure hunt (this was before the days of the internet). Later on, when I was a teenager I would play records at house parties and at friend's homes.

What pushed you over the edge and inspired you to make music?

In the early 90's I was mainly into jungle/dnb and was heavily influenced by the junglist mentality (dubplates of unreleased records, VIP mixes of songs, DJ's rewinding big records, MCs hyping up the crowd, etc.). By the time the mid 90's came around a new genre of tough, choppy, funky yet techy disco-house surfaced. Daft Punk released their album Homework around then and I was blown away. I remember meeting Thomas Bangalter (of Daft Punk) in Toronto at Industry - we didn't say much but he became one of my early influences. I wanted to make my own version of house music, taking elements from the punchy, compressed French house sound with elements of drum & bass.

Nowadays, I get a lot of inspiration from my weekly radio show - I get to hear different DJ mixes every week from producers from all over the world. There are so many good artists out there pushing the envelope and creating new sounds - guys like Laidback Luke, Switch, Herve, Bart B More, Will Bailey, Wolfgang Gartner, Calvertron, Nadastrom, Vandalism, Deadmau5, DJ Dan and even commercial acts like Kanye West are helping to evolve music.

Can you describe your style of music, in terms of method/philosophy and sound?

In terms of production I always strive for excellent sound quality, good production, wild trickery with a dash of sarcasm, fun and tension and release. Oh, and of course, heavy bass and a driving tempo is always one of my signatures. I'm probably not the best at describing my music because I try not to limit myself to one sound or one set of rules when creating it.

Regarding DJing - I like to show up to a venue armed with a variety of music ranging from mainly quirky electro house and techno all the way to minimal, tribal and straight-up house. I really like to mix it up and keep things interesting and crazy on the dancefloor. Of course, I do play a ton of my own music as well and like to test out new productions before I release them.

Coming out of Toronto, how would you describe our 'electronic' music scene?

I feel that Toronto used to have the best scene in the world but lost a lot of the magic, innovation and variety when independent promoters got replaced or swallowed up by just a handful of mega-clubs. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate everything the big clubs are doing in this city, but we need more one-off events, small venues, underground parties, variety in the music, local support, infrastructure and world class festivals if we want to compete on a global scale.

A lot of people might hate on me for saying that but, trust me - a city like Tokyo, cities in Australia and South America generally have more excited crowds, massive parties and variety. There still are lots of great events and a huge interest in electronic music in Toronto - but I feel that we really need a good shake up in this city to get back to where we used to be on the global scale - we need to regain the sense of excitement, fun, community and sharing that should drive and define this scene.

So are raves dead, or did something else happen to the rave scene?

The rave scene isn't dead - it's really struggling in Toronto but it can be revived. Ultimately, '90's culture is having a renewed influence in a lot of new music and forthcoming fashion - you can hear a lot of old rave breaks, stabs and samples in current electro, fidget and techno tunes. In that sense, rave culture is simply being morphed into something new. In terms of one-off events, raves are pretty much dead in Toronto because there aren't enough independent promoters throwing events that cater to the all-ages crowd anymore. It's difficult here because most venues are more concerned about alcohol revenue over ticket sales.

That's not to say that there isn't a massive "rave" scene (if you want to call it that) in other cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco, throughout South America, etc. They seem to be thriving out there. I would absolutely love it if we got a resurgence of the original rave spirit in Toronto again and am optimistic that it will happen.

What's your favourite venue in Toronto, and abroad?

Ageha Club in Japan is impressive - it's massive, has amazing sound and a really wild crowd. Although pretty much any venue in Japan is amazing.

In terms of the creative energy they are trying to create, I would say that Circa is pretty cool; I love the murals, artwork and creative vision there (he also filmed the above Poppin' Beats video at the club). The Guvernment has really great sound and lighting. Footwork seems to be the more authentic and raw venue where the music and dancing comes first. Ultimately, it's not really the venue that matters - it's the people that fill it up that decide what a night there will be like.


Finally, what's one song you'd love to take and mix up or re-engineer that people wouldn't expect to hear from you?

The Macarena, Who Let The Dogs Out, maybe even that Chicken Dance song they play at all the weddings. I'd like to remix one of those and then shoot myself... In all seriousness there are so many old tunes I could rework - anything from Madonna, New Order, Depeche Mode, Stevie Wonder, Giorgio Moroder, Information Society, etc. would be fun.

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Hatiras comes through Toronto on the regular, with his next show scheduled in Guelph on April 22nd. In the meantime, I've been checking out the (mostly) free downloads available at his official site - well worth the bandwidth!

Photos: pete_k

Discussion

21 Comments

ugh / April 2, 2009 at 02:07 pm
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"Hatiras has been a key figure in Toronto's electro scene for over a decade."

fuck, people need to stop throwing the word 'electro' around.
Hatiras is a house DJ, always was and always will be.
Electro = Kraftwerk Newcleus etc...

this 'nu-rave' rock / techno bastard child needs to fuck off and die already

the techno and the fidget can stay

Jerrold replying to a comment from ugh / April 2, 2009 at 02:12 pm
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Stop being so angry. Play with <a href="http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/";>Ishkur's Guide</a>. Be happy.
Kevin bracken / April 2, 2009 at 02:15 pm
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Always a huge fan of Hatiras, have booked him to play my own events and I think we really share a philosophy of what it would take to make Toronto's nightlife massive and high energy again: raw, underground, daring all ages events. Keep on rocking George, see you soon I hope!
J-rock / April 2, 2009 at 02:54 pm
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Interesting interview. I remember Liquid Adrenaline and he's right in that the scene has lost a bit of it's energy. Part of that might just be due to the fact that a lot of people who go to clubs grew up. That wide-eyed, first time around naivety that used to make raves in Toronto so much fun 10-15 years ago, kinda gave way to the practiced "been there, done that" cynicism you can sometimes find in the clubs. That said, I still almost always have a great time when I go out, both in the clubs and at various after-hours parties.

As far as clubs in Tokyo, Ageha is pretty good, but Womb is much better, and so was Yellow (RIP).
Jerrold / April 2, 2009 at 03:27 pm
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I enjoyed a Liquid party or two. Sun beams through hangar doors memorable.

Also been to Ageha (awesome big club, fun to see people tossed into the outdoor swimming pool too). Womb and Yellow are excellent, cater more to the chin stroking techno types.
canuck1975 / April 2, 2009 at 04:24 pm
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Best location for a rave: Wild Water Kingdom. Too bad they had to move it.
Corina replying to a comment from ugh / April 2, 2009 at 04:53 pm
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'a key figure' meaning he produces, distributes, promotes and has direct involvement in the electro scene - I agree, he makes mainly house beats, but he's been involved with tons of artists in pretty much every aspect of electro music production. Try reading the *very next paragraph* in the article before posting a douchy comment.
Corina replying to a comment from canuck1975 / April 2, 2009 at 04:54 pm
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Science Center, woooooo! And the Pickering Sand pits. And Industry used to be fun. And 'Generations' (aka AlleyKatz) before it got too cracky... ahh *small tear* nostalgia.
J-rock / April 2, 2009 at 05:19 pm
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Ah, the Industry. So many things I did there for the first time.

*In grumpy old man voice*

Toronto really was a lot more fun 10 years ago ("in my day").
Anon / April 2, 2009 at 09:16 pm
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So did the article originally say "electro scene" and it's now been stealth edited to "electronic music scene"? Cause that's what it looks like.
Corina replying to a comment from Anon / April 2, 2009 at 09:26 pm
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Not stealth... that's what Jerrold's little blue thinger's for. I would have left it at electro who I feel still defines a lot of the sounds in the music Hatiras works to promote/distribute. I guess my editor thinks 'electronic' is less controversial (lol)
Corina replying to a comment from J-rock / April 2, 2009 at 09:28 pm
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I can't vouch for all of Toronto... but I'll tell ya, Queen & John was more fun 10+years ago. Specficially the phone booth/numb corner, and the opposite 'graffiti alley' corner (albeit upstairs)...
Tron / April 2, 2009 at 10:10 pm
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I cn't stnd a DJ tht lks lk DCH. Tht's why ddm5 rcks!!!!!

Ys Ddm5 s wsm, bt thn gn ths sccss (k-chng) mks hm n tcst t ths st. vn f h wsn't sccssfl h wldn't lk lk dch (tht's th bst prt)
Cn w pls ntrvw Ddm5?
Corina replying to a comment from Tron / April 2, 2009 at 10:12 pm
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Hey Tron, guess who I just emailed?

btw, interesting article re: deadmau5 - not sure if I agree with it all, but FYI:

http://blog.demodulated.com/2009/04/02/beating-a-deadmau5/
J-rock replying to a comment from Corina / April 3, 2009 at 01:42 am
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That stretch of Queen is now nothing more than an outdoor version of the Eaton centre. You never want to turn into the "It used to be better..." guy, but it really is true in a lot of cases.
J-rock replying to a comment from Jerrold / April 3, 2009 at 01:46 am
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Jerrold, I don't know what kind of nights on which you would have hit up either Yellow or Womb, but I can safely say that plenty of booty shakin' went on at those places. I can't abide chin stroking, trainspotters at a club. NYE 2006 @ Womb remains one of the best nights of my entire life.
mr. hood / April 3, 2009 at 04:43 am
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i miss ihr,and liquid adrenaline, and the parties that geberated such movement in the scene..

djs command alot of money now, i can respect it sort of... what gets me is a dj who releases 2-3 tracks on beatport then decides "i should be making (insert inflated dj fee here)" because im on beatport and dj in toronto!, even though he's never really built credit on the circut as a dj outside of the city...

outside of that, hatiras has paved the road for many artists in toronto, and abroad via his labels, parties, radio shows, and inspiration. He keeps a level head and doesnt seem out of reach. He keeps well grounded, and is very approachable, and respectable, which doesnt always seem to happen in the "Scene"..

good on him for representing house music / toronto in such a manner that causes others to take up the passion for the music..


Tron replying to a comment from Tron / April 3, 2009 at 09:34 am
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the donkeyface blogger on this blog edited my comment. I called the DJ a donkeyface for looking like one
:)
Corina replying to a comment from Tron / April 3, 2009 at 09:38 am
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Guess my editor doesn't want donkeyfacey comments up.
Bryan / April 3, 2009 at 05:22 pm
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House music is the bomb!!! Hatiras rocks!!! all the best music listings on this site, hands down, check out the link below...

http://toronto.clubpath.com/Default.aspx
Khalil / April 17, 2009 at 11:57 am
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Hatiras coming to GUELPH!

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?success=1&;id=120810019#/event.php?eid=82506009496

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