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Morning Brew: Arrest in Eaton Centre shootings, on the need for a city subway loop, Rob Ford really wants to eliminate the land transfer tax, the weekend roundup

Posted by Derek Flack / June 4, 2012

Toronto aerialToronto police revealed this morning that an arrest has been made in the Eaton Centre shootings. Although details are sparse, CTV reports that the suspect turned himself in at 52 Division some time around 2:30 a.m. A press conference is schedule for 2 p.m.. at which more details will be revealed.

For commentary on the shootings and what the event means for Toronto, here are editorials from Marcus Gee, Joe Fiorito, Chris Selley, and the Posted Toronto Political Panel. Do this weekend's events shake your faith in Toronto as a safe city?

It's time to talk subways again, but just don't mention the Downtown Relief Line. Matt Elliott makes the case for the "city subway loop," which might just be "the most important infrastructure project Toronto can build right now."

Rob Ford really wants to get rid of the land transfer tax, and last Friday he asked Toronto Real Estate Board members for their help. "Folks, you must get in the councillors' faces," he told the board on Friday. "As we succeed in reducing costs, we can begin to phase out that terrible land transfer tax, which I never supported and I am adamant to get rid of. I'd like to start doing that before this council term is up."

The 2012 Ride for Heart raised $5 million as some 13,000 cyclists took to the Gardiner Expressway and DVP. That's up $1.1 million from last year's total. Well done.


Here's a little gem from the NFB archive on Toronto's rise as a metropolis in the 1950s. The idealistic tone strikes me as a good way to start the week.


Photo by Gail at Large in the blogTO Flickr pool



MrPotato / June 4, 2012 at 09:13 am
Once the killer heard that RoFo was on the case it was a pretty easy decision...turn yourself in or face the biggest belly splash in the history of this city!
ps replying to a comment from Rafa / June 4, 2012 at 09:19 am
Anyone want to guess Rafa's sense of decency, on a scale of one to 10? Inviting stereotype-fueled commentary on a public forum, and referencing a made-up "life on the line" scenario - one related to a real-life scenario where people were injured (and 1 killed)....I'm guessing it would be anywhere between 0.5 and 1-1/2. Thoughts?
Rob replying to a comment from MrPotato / June 4, 2012 at 09:20 am
LOL...I loved his contribution to the case...where he turned up, sweaty and out of breath, and mumbled for about 5 minutes about how the shooting was terrible (duh).
steve replying to a comment from Rafa / June 4, 2012 at 09:21 am
If only the all of us had such clear insight as you.
Mike / June 4, 2012 at 09:21 am
Safety in Toronto is not shaken. Clearly an isolated incident. Welcome back regent park!
Rafa replying to a comment from Mike / June 4, 2012 at 09:33 am
Tsk tsk, Mike - better watch that "regent park" inference lest you be censored. Care to elaborate on what you really mean? In the BlogTO land of rose coloured glasses, this incident could have easily been perpetrated by the Amish...damn Amish, always causing trouble...
agentsmith / June 4, 2012 at 09:38 am
Toronto has one of the lowest per-capita murder rates in the country, let alone compared to the US where it's literally over 10 times as high. Anyone who thinks Toronto is dangerous has no clue.
Rob replying to a comment from agentsmith / June 4, 2012 at 09:42 am
Thank you gun control laws. Now they just need to get tougher on gun-related crime, and we'll be in good shape. This guy should be locked up indefinitely for endangering the lives of so many people with such reckless behaviour.
Aaron / June 4, 2012 at 09:44 am
It's kind of sad how gang violence is a regular occurrence in the suburbs, but it's only a big deal when it spills over into the downtown.
agentsmith replying to a comment from Aaron / June 4, 2012 at 09:46 am
Correction, it's only a big deal when innocent people get shot. When gang members only kill each other, it's kinda hard to get too worked up about it.
Derek replying to a comment from Rafa / June 4, 2012 at 09:47 am
You might be upset that your comment was removed, but you can't be surprised. Take the racist crap elsewhere, please.
Mark / June 4, 2012 at 09:47 am
Ok Rob, what the fuck did Miller do everytime someone shot someone in Toronto. He showed up and gave the same platitudes that Ford did. Mayor's aren't the police and aren't going to be chasing down the perp. Grow up and stop acting like a whiny bitch everytime the mayor is on tv.
ps replying to a comment from Derek / June 4, 2012 at 09:59 am
Thank you so much for removing that horrible comment. This thread is much better for it.
McRib replying to a comment from Aaron / June 4, 2012 at 10:38 am
whats even more sad is that you would bring the 'suburbs vs downtown' argument into this.

newsflash asshole: anytime an innocent bystander gets killed or shot it becomes a big deal.
nomayor replying to a comment from Mark / June 4, 2012 at 10:42 am
It was a active crime scene, no mayor should ever be let into a active crime scene. The only high ranking person that should been there is the police chief. If the mayor wants to make a public speech he can do that from city hall. Nothing wrong about making a public speech. But according to some on twitter that were in the crowd, he was shaking hands and asking people to vote for him in 2014. Which in itself was very improper thing to do.
mike replying to a comment from Rafa / June 4, 2012 at 10:51 am
No I am happy to see regent park back in all honesty. The thing is the last time there was a year of the gun it was because all of regent park got shipped out to places like malvern and rexdale were the turfs were already carved hence the year of the gun 2005. Now regent park is back up there is some lines to be drawn and I hate to say but unless blair does his june crime sweep in regent this year (which will be hard to do considering no roles have really been established yet) its may get ugly. its growing pains. I still love regent and diversity. I don't buy sun bullshit. But I will call it as I see it.
mike replying to a comment from Rafa / June 4, 2012 at 10:53 am
safety not really shaken though because its all targeted. The guy who did this is a nitwit and the hood will be laughing at his stupid ass as he is crucified in the media all summer.
mike replying to a comment from Aaron / June 4, 2012 at 10:56 am
So true! And for agentsmith, while you are partly right. don't believe that no innocents are hurt in the suburbs or that when they are hurt the outcry is comparable.
Alex / June 4, 2012 at 10:59 am
"As we succeed in reducing costs,"

What? I thought he cut the budget by a couple Mill max. Doesn't the land transfer tax bring in hundreds of millions of dollars? If he gets rid of it he'll have to increase property taxes. Not sure which one of those I support. Land Transfer Tax puts the burden solely on one segment of the population, but since currently a huge number of buyers are foreign investors I'm fine with them paying it (though eventually whoever they sell to locally will have to pay). It is a one time tax too that only hits people that budget for it. Still, it does seem unfair so I really can't decide if I would rather higher property taxes or keep the land transfer tax.
RKMK / June 4, 2012 at 11:14 am
FFS, Canadian media. "Suspect turned himself in" /= "an arrest has been made." Words mean things.

"A suspect is in custody" would be more accurate.
Jacob / June 4, 2012 at 11:15 am
Good job covering that shooting, BTW.
Rafa replying to a comment from Jacob / June 4, 2012 at 11:26 am

Sunday nights, BlogTO "reporters" are typically busy trimming their mustaches, and oiling up their fixies...
Pumped-up Kicks replying to a comment from Rafa / June 4, 2012 at 11:30 am
Are you upset that the rain flooded your little den under the bridge this weekend?
Rafa replying to a comment from Pumped-up Kicks / June 4, 2012 at 11:34 am
Underneath the bridge..the tarp has sprung a leak...and the animals I've trapped...have all become my friends...and I'm livin off of grass...and the...drippings from the ceiling..its OK to eat fish..cause they..dont have any feelingsssss
handfed / June 4, 2012 at 12:38 pm
How did the Eaton shooter manage to reportedly let off 10-12 rounds in quick succession? Common semi-auto magazines have 9 rounds. So much for your gun laws...
Keith / June 4, 2012 at 01:19 pm
Awesome NFB flick Derek... thanks for posting
Rafa replying to a comment from handfed / June 4, 2012 at 02:14 pm
john / June 4, 2012 at 02:45 pm
And just to pull everything together, that nfb film actually mentions Regent park as a positive blow against the living conditions that were merely seen as a "necessary evil". Interesting how things change...

Jay / June 4, 2012 at 04:58 pm
@ Alex - the land transfer tax is not paid by the buyer. It's paid by the seller. It has no affect on foreign buyers coming into the market.

The land transfer tax is unfair and a poor idea. As a homeowner I spend a fair bit supporting the economy, local businesses, trades, etc. etc. All the time paying taxes on all kinds of goods and services. And the one thing I'm working hard to try and build some equity for my future I have the city digging into my pocket once more. It's bad enought we work half the year just to cover the taxes we dole out to all levels of government.

If anything we should have kept the license fee on cars and scrapped the land transfer tax.
Al replying to a comment from Jay / June 4, 2012 at 05:46 pm
Wrong...I paid a hefty land transfer tax on purchase of my house...not the on sale of my condo.
steve replying to a comment from Jay / June 4, 2012 at 05:51 pm
What you get back for those taxes is 10 times you put in
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