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Morning Brew: Toronto Zoo eager for new pandas, Giambrone weighs in on transit plans, new theory on TO gridlock, and kids don't like healthy food at schools

Posted by Brianne Hogan / February 3, 2012

TorontoWe might be losing our elephants, but we'll be gaining two pandas — that is if the Toronto Zoo's board has anything to say about it. Regarding reports that a big panda announcement is supposed to happen next week, councillor Paul Ainslie, the vice-president of the zoo board, is pretty sure the zoo will receive viable private-public support for the an exhibit despite the zoo's financial woes. After all, everyone loves cute, fuzzy bears who won't hesitate to maul you.

Former TTC chair Adam Giambrone weighs in on the current Eglinton LRT drama. His advice to those who are trying to figure all this out: remember why LRT was chosen in the first place. Giambrone argues that Transit City was thoroughly studied, so alternatives should be just as carefully weighed. He thinks that implementing BRT in certain areas (like FInch) will end up costing Toronto more in the long run, and does not promote urban regeneration, and that extending the subway isn't really practical, either.

Apparently one-third of our city's annoying downtown traffic consists of drivers just looking for a place to park. So what could help alleviate this headache? You could raise parking prices in high traffic areas and lower them in less desirable areas to ensure there are a few spots free; or, develop an app that uses GPS to locate vacant parking spaces (and obviously one that's better than that Green P parking app).

Try as the province might to offer healthy menus at schools, the kids just aren't having it. The Toronto District School Board projects it will lose $700,000 this year because kids are basically saying "Screw you, healthy food" and are getting their fatty food fix elsewhere. One teenage girl said of the new menu: "It's healthy and it's nasty."

IN BRIEF:

Photo by Andy Carroll in the blogTO Flickr pool

Discussion

27 Comments

Hendrix / February 3, 2012 at 09:36 am
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News flash: Teens exist on cigarettes, fries and gravy.
Jack / February 3, 2012 at 10:05 am
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Were any of Giambrone's girlfriends available for comment?
Sad Panda / February 3, 2012 at 10:07 am
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I'd rather see the brothers Ford dressed up as pandas and placed in the pen than real pandas.
duh / February 3, 2012 at 10:15 am
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they needs to put healthy food in cool packages. teens can't see past image.
Anti-Gravy Man replying to a comment from Hendrix / February 3, 2012 at 10:22 am
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Where have you been the past year? The gravy stopped flowing into TO the day the Honorable Mayor Ford took office.
Al / February 3, 2012 at 10:35 am
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Giamboner is responsible for killing the DRL. The only line started on his watch was the extension into Vaughan. We are going to be living with his failures for a long time.
Nutritionist / February 3, 2012 at 10:41 am
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Food, no matter how healthy is useless if uneaten.

If you visit many ethnic homes, which are the majority in Toronto, ethnic foods are very unhealthy and unbalanced diets. The foods at school and the mall are much healthier for students than what they would eat at their homes.

Indian food uses so much cooking oil and butter. Soul foods use salted meats for flavoring greens, beans, lots of fried chicken and fish. Chinese food uses fatty duck, pork belly, sodium soy sauce, estrogen infused tofu. Many diets ethnic diets use a whole plate of rice as a stable. Latinos deep fry pork rinds, eat it with pinto beans with rice, plaintain fryed in margarine and fried eggs for breakfast!

McDonalds is actually much better for kids than the fried chow mein etc that they'd eat at
home!
NotANutritionist replying to a comment from Nutritionist / February 3, 2012 at 10:53 am
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Are you really a nutritionist? Also, do you realize what Indian people, for example, eat at home is not the same food you get at Gandhi's on Queen West? Indian food is very healthy and balanced. Limited meat, lots of good protein (lentils, soy, kidney beans), fresh ingredients, preservative free carbs (rotis). The food these kids are eating at home is usually FRESH, made by their mother with ingredients no more than a week old. Are you really saying that McDonald's food is better than a home cooked meal? Really?
whut replying to a comment from Nutritionist / February 3, 2012 at 10:55 am
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Did you run your logic through the Ford Truth machine?
Ratpick replying to a comment from Al / February 3, 2012 at 11:03 am
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"Giamboner is responsible for killing the DRL."

Hardly. The DRL has been shelved and reshelved since before Giambrone was born.

It'll be floated (and sunk) until the end of days, unfortunately.
Bizzarro Nutritionist replying to a comment from Nutritionist / February 3, 2012 at 11:05 am
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Are you flapping insane?
Cyril Sneer / February 3, 2012 at 11:11 am
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Clearly the answer is to build more parking lots downtown!
mark replying to a comment from Nutritionist / February 3, 2012 at 11:30 am
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we all no 'nutritionalist' is a retarded racist troll. White kids and black kids are the fattest. the proof is in the pudding
Dr. Shrinker replying to a comment from Ratpick / February 3, 2012 at 11:58 am
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Mostly because the DRL is a POS concept anyway, and should stay in development hell for good; an LRT line can do the same thing for less money-hell, just building Transit City as originally planned would take the pressure off of the two subway lines.

If a DRL was built, it should have been built from around 1910-1940, and in the manner previously shown here at BlogTO in a post/story. As it is now, any building of a DRL would most likely now just come into opposition, especially if houses have to be torn down to make way for emergency exits (see 'Residents upset about planned subway exits' here:http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2010/07/12/14692146.html)

It's time to give subways and subway building in Toronto a LONG, long rest, and go with LRT as our primary mode of rapid transit, once and for all.
dubs replying to a comment from Jack / February 3, 2012 at 12:13 pm
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I would honestly trust the opinion of any of Giambrones girlfriends on transit policy than that of our mayor.
dubs replying to a comment from Jack / February 3, 2012 at 12:22 pm
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I thought parking was the most boring thing you could talk about until I attended a CUI (canurb.org) session last year featuring Donald Shoup (http://www.amazon.ca/High-Cost-Parking-Donald-Shoup/dp/1884829988).

Its amazing what theyve started in San Francisco. www.SFpark.org is really revolutionary and we would be lucky to have a mayor that looked to SF for guidance on parking.

dubs replying to a comment from Nutritionist / February 3, 2012 at 12:24 pm
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If you are in fact a nutritionist, you should be banned from practicing. this did however remind me that I wanted to get dinner at Gandhi! thanks!
Nutritionist / February 3, 2012 at 01:27 pm
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Yes, I actually am a nutrionist. I work in a Family Health Team with UNH. Our catchment area is the downtown core. I admit that I'm only 25 and have one year experience.

The patients refered to me come primarily from ethnic communities. They have high rates of heart disease, diabetes, osteoporosis, tooth decay etc. It is manily to do with their ethnic diets. We don't do home visits because places like The West Lodge or substandard not to code housing are dangerous. There were times when a lone female would do a home visit for a senior but there was a household of 15 home in the daytime!

Anyway, I try to encourage my clients to consume dairy. Eat something like 4 ounces of roast turkey breast, with at least 3 diff vegs for dinner. Eat lots of vegs for snacks etc. Avoid cooking with MSG! Eating canned corned beef and spam, snacks like processed spiced chick peas...

I also try to give friendly reminders on what foods are appropriate to bring to work and school. Rice porridge with liver and fish heads won't make your child any friends. Perhaps ham and cheese or pb & j if allowed. Adults should also refrain from cooking foods that cause the entire hallway to smell or leave their clothes with odours. Its bad when it comes to finding work or social interaction.
boris moris replying to a comment from mark / February 3, 2012 at 01:31 pm
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Gee Mark..I did not 'no' that.

Shouldn't you be giving the mayor his hourly enema?
tommy / February 3, 2012 at 01:48 pm
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The DRL could have come in the form of the Don Mills and Jane Street LRTs if expanded south of the Bloor line. Even if they ended at Bloor, they'd take pressure off of the Yonge line which is overcapacity at rush hour. But everything was canceled, as usual.

The closest we'll ever get to a DRL is closing off King Street to cars, and making the 504 an express route.
the lemur replying to a comment from Nutritionist / February 3, 2012 at 01:51 pm
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It sounds like you have a lot to learn. For one thing, 'ethnic' is not some catch-all term for non-white or non-anglo. There is no food that is somehow not ethnic in its origins.

Second, your descriptions of different cuisines are highly clichéd and touch only on stereotypes. It doesn't mean people are eating only those foods, all the time.

Fast food like McDonald's is generally loaded with excess salt, sugar, fat and empty calories so it is completely undeserving of recommendation.

Finally, what people cook at home and take to work/school is none of your business.
Chris replying to a comment from Nutritionist / February 3, 2012 at 01:58 pm
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Wow, Nutrionist, stereotype much? Since you seem to be new to your profession, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume that you're too young and ignorant to realize how young and ignorant you come across as you condemn "ethnic" food and "ethnic" diets (whatever the heck that's supposed to mean).

Do you really believe the North American diet is superior to those "ethnics" you talk about? Then why does North America have higher rates of obesity, heart disease, stroke, you name it, than just about anywhere else in the world? Is it the superior diet?

hpo replying to a comment from Nutritionist / February 3, 2012 at 02:08 pm
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The Black people in Toronto are different from the Black people in the Southern United States. I don't think any Nutritionist would ever recommend eating at McDonald's. Just say that your an ignorant racist and move on. People like you seriously disgust me. Saying where you work and your age is pretty interesting though! ;)
MrsPotato replying to a comment from Nutritionist / February 3, 2012 at 02:12 pm
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@nutritionist.

Frightening.
You're a bigot already, at the tender age of 25.


NOTE TO EVERYONE ELSE:
In Ontario, anyone can call themselves a 'nutritionist'.
In Ontario is not required to have the education or standards held by dietitians and anyone is allowed to claim the title of nutritionist.


My advise, to 'Nutritionist':
Keep being a 'pro' online, because in real life, you know very little. Stick with forums. Where no one can tell you you're a fucking idiot to your face.
Traveller replying to a comment from Nutritionist / February 3, 2012 at 02:18 pm
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Well if this is the sort of nutritionist we're hiring, I'm going to up my investment in funeral homes. Most of the comments are regarding potential social effects of food odour, nothing to do with nutrition.
Stew replying to a comment from Nutritionist / February 3, 2012 at 02:21 pm
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Your organization must be taking kickbacks from Kraft.
aGrHEEwithNutritionist replying to a comment from NotANutritionist / February 3, 2012 at 05:42 pm
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I am North Indian and I completely agree with the statement
"Indian food uses so much cooking oil and butter. "... applying that *only* to North Indian food... the rest of the ethnicities within India I can't comment on with much evidence but from what I have seen it's much better....
In the restaurants AND in the home. I go to people's home in Toronto... and India for that matter... tons of butter and oil... even my uncle.. AFTER he had a triple bypass was still eating this stuff... I had to force my mom to stop cooking like that. Indian food can be very healthy if made appropriately... typically it ain't... and having many friends in the community who are doctors and dietitians... this is completely normal.

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