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Morning Brew: It's Presto time for TTC, Toronto tourism is up, police name tag problems, York University students place second in Mars Rover contest, and are the Service Review consultations helpful?

Posted by Brianne Hogan / June 6, 2011

Toronto Dundas SqaureIt's 'Presto, chango' for the TTC as it looks to officially adopt the Presto provincial fare card system this week. A TTC staff report intended for Wednesday recommends the city and TTC begin negotiations with Metrolinx and the province on how to implement the green smart cards. It's still unclear when exactly commuters would be able to use Presto cards and how much it will cost taxpayers to equip all transportation modes and stations with electronic card readers.This is obviously a big turn-around the for the TTC, which had previously deemed the cards too expensive and out-of-date.

According to a new Tourism Toronto report set to be released today, more international travellers are crossing the ocean to visit our fair city but less American motorists are crossing the border, thanks to a high loonie. Though there was an 11 per cent jump in overseas and European visitors, two-thirds of our tourists still come from elsewhere in Canada. Overall, Toronto had a three per cent jump in tourism, but people spent more money, pumping $3.4 billion into the city's economy. Still, according to Tourism Toronto's vice-president of communication, Toronto is known for "its components, not its totality", something they're trying to work on.

A big issue at the G20 public hearings is the fact that many police officers did not wear name tags during the summit, and according to a local student activist, Toronto's police officers are still violating the policy by refusing to wear name tags while on duty. Vikram Mulligan has taken photos of on-duty officers working with no visible name tag since the G20 and presented his findings at the G20 public hearings, which continue this week. Mulligan would like all police officers to wear their name tags. A Toronto police spokesman said that older police raincoats don't have patches for name tag, but that they will eventually be replaced with new ones with such advanced technology.

This week's National Post's political panel discusses whether the Service Review consultations, which wrap up this week, are actually helpful in civic participation, or are they merely a show to appease the people because the city's just going to go ahead and cut what they want anyway.

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Discussion

25 Comments

Richard / June 6, 2011 at 09:05 am
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"A Toronto police spokesman said that older police raincoats don't have patches for name tag, but that they will eventually be replaced with new ones with such advanced technology."

Yes, Velcro is considered an "advanced technology". TPS, what a joke... their motto should be "excuses before answers"
rob / June 6, 2011 at 09:23 am
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My God the TTC is ridiculous. The open payments standard could have accepted presto cards as well as any other contactless credit or debit card. After all this time, we're "upgrading" to a technology which has been around since what? the 70s or 80s? Wooppeeee
RBeezy replying to a comment from Richard / June 6, 2011 at 09:28 am
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Velcro is from the future. Who can afford such an extravagance?

It shouldn't be rocket science for the TTC to figure out how to implement Presto. They've been running it as a pilot project at 12 stations for the past year. As a Presto user I can say that it's more convenient by far.
the lemur replying to a comment from rob / June 6, 2011 at 09:50 am
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That's the TTC attitude to technology: 'It's too expensive right now, let's wait and see what else develops ... nope, still too expensive ... too expensive ... too expensive OHHH too late! Now it's obsolete! Next!'
hypocrasy sleuth / June 6, 2011 at 09:56 am
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Only 2 links today? Guess you guys ran out of room to print this Star article:

http://www.thestar.com/news/fixer/article/1003071--fixer-are-cyclists-alienating-drivers-by-being-selfish-and-rude

Gee I wonder why this didn't make the cut.

"I am above zee law! Hmph!"
Nick / June 6, 2011 at 10:04 am
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@hypocrasy sleuth

Interesting article. I cycle in the city a lot and even I get pissed at a lot of cyclists who have no regard for the rules of the road. Just like there are a bunch of bad drivers out there - same thing with cyclists.
Andrew replying to a comment from hypocrasy sleuth / June 6, 2011 at 10:04 am
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Well, you found the article yourself, didn't you? Then I guess you don't need blogTO to do your legwork for you.
Give me a break.
Daryl replying to a comment from Andrew / June 6, 2011 at 10:44 am
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By that argument, why do we even have a Morning Brew?
gadfly / June 6, 2011 at 10:58 am
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Gee, you G20 kids think you've latched onto something new, original even, don't you?
Hate to break it to you kiddied: when facing mobs they almost never wear their badges, so clearly there is some unwritten rule (whether from the police department of the union itself) I am sure there will be some sort of award and statue for the clever reporter that can find the memo.
In February 1981, as a couple hundred very nervous police built a human chain around 55 Division on Dundas St while 15 or 20 thousand very angry lesbian and gay people shouted at them - none of them were wearing nametags.
Later, as a march along University broke into pandemonium on the front lawn of the legislature building, the cop that 10 people had dragged to the ground and were punching also did not wear his name tag. (I know, I was very, very close.)
I do not have much use for the police, personally. Whenever I have needed their help, generally some technicality has gotten the perp off and I was just a hapless victim, but it wasn't the cops' fault, it was the system.
By taking your anger out on the cops, you are wasting your time. As one bored cop said to me while myself and three other 'found-ins' were held in an alley behind 55 Division the night before, awaiting to be 'processed' at 3 in the morning,"We'd rather be in bed sleeping with our wives. We don't need the over time, thanks. Your beef is not with us; we could care less what you guys do in there. Try talking to your MPP."
Pal / June 6, 2011 at 11:06 am
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once again: Morning Brew is not a comprehensive news source, if you want comprehensive read a variety of papers etc. That article didn't make it in because it's an opinion piece from another newspaper, there may be copyright issues, or BlogTO may just find it ethically dubious to print other papers' opinion pieces.
Pal / June 6, 2011 at 11:07 am
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or they may simply not share that writer's opinion, which is their right. You want cyclist hate, go to the Sun.
Pal replying to a comment from gadfly / June 6, 2011 at 11:15 am
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Kiddies? Interesting, as you have the most immature attitude i've ever witnessed on these boards, but w/e. The people seeking answers and reprimand from the G20 debacle have actually made lots of headway and their statements have been verified by a few gov. officials, including the Attorney General. If you find yourself powerless it's most likely due to your poor attitude, feeling of helplessness and general stupidity, as evidenced by your comments here. Again, I'm confronted with this question: why do you bother? I also have a feeling that your bitterness for humanity has led you make claims against people around you and when the cops show up they realise you're nuts and you've made some ridiculous, baseless accusation against a reasonable person. I can imagine that you are the unreasonable one in a variety of situations, you can't even control yourself while commenting on BlogTO.
the lemur / June 6, 2011 at 11:38 am
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If the cops' beef was not with the protesters, then why bother with the beatings and detentions?
skeeter / June 6, 2011 at 12:05 pm
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if i want to read the news, i read the newspaper or go to their website equivalent. if i want to witness and participate in discussions about the news, i come to BlogTO.
Greg / June 6, 2011 at 12:08 pm
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Kathleen Wynne saves face, Toronto gets screwed.

This is like watching a slow-motion crash.
skeeter replying to a comment from gadfly / June 6, 2011 at 12:22 pm
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gadfly, there's a difference between not wearing a name tag because you don't have to or having to wear a name tag and removing it. it was in 2006 when mandatory name tags on officers was implemented. the fact is that the 90 or so cops during G20 took theirs off knowing FULL WELL that they were going against the rules.
cadfly / June 6, 2011 at 01:01 pm
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Now gladfly, the hate filled unhappy neo-con that you are. Should understand not wearing name tags is against police policy and all doing it should be punished. Certain jobs require their employees to properly wear their uniforms when reporting to work, the police are no different.
Rob / June 6, 2011 at 03:19 pm
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PRESTO is a waste of money. It' mostly about GO transit updating it's antiquated punch magnetic cards. This will mostly serve suburbanites, and cause us headaches.

We need bigger stations and more trains, not fancy electronic crap that I am forced to use.

I never needed a 400 million dollar system to get me around the GTA, just the equivilant of $20 in my pocket.

PRESTO is for the lazy.
Rob / June 6, 2011 at 03:21 pm
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Also a big welcome to BIG brother. The cards will keep track of your movements, and a permanent record of your daily moves will be made.

Rob / June 6, 2011 at 03:23 pm
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And what happens if PRESTO breaks down and the readers go down for a bit? I mean naturally it will occur at some point. But since they won't take money anymore, do we just call it a snow day and everyone leaves and walks home?
Mark Dowling / June 6, 2011 at 03:36 pm
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Rob essentially says "if it's no good for me it's no good for anyone". I'm guessing your last name is Ford?
Rob / June 6, 2011 at 03:52 pm
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OH god, and I heard about this tap out system....when you get to your destination. What will happen when 500 people get off at Bloor station during rush hour and head to the surface....how will you tap them out quickly? More lines, more confusion and anger...can't wait for this to bite them all on the ass. I won't use it personally, useless for Toronto Proper.
RBeezy replying to a comment from Rob / June 6, 2011 at 04:14 pm
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Actually Rob you tap IN, not out. If you want to see how Presto works during rush hour go down to Union station and watch how long the lines are for the booth and regular turnstiles as opposed to the Presto turnstile.

The difference is easily measurable.
Becky replying to a comment from Rob / June 6, 2011 at 04:16 pm
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The tap out system is for Go Transit because they operate with a fare zone system. You wouldn't need to tap out on the TTC unless they decide to switch to fare zones, too.

(And on Go, if you have a regular route you take, you can set your card up to know that. So, when you use your regular route, you don't need to tap out. You only tap out if you're going somewhere different than usual.)
mirror replying to a comment from Rob / June 6, 2011 at 05:01 pm
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And what do you propose? Status quo? Yes because that will definitely improve our system...

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