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Morning Brew: Pantalone to march alone, Rossi rails against shortened pool hours, E. coli in North York, Toronto worst in Ontario for speed traps, TDSB at the ACC

Posted by Matthew Woolley / September 2, 2010

LoblawsJoe Pantalone is the only mayoral candidate welcome to participate in this year's Labor Day parade. The Star reports that both Sarah Thomson and George Smitherman asked, but were denied a chance to march in the parade organized by the Toronto and York Region Labour Council. The Council's endorsement of Pantalone seems natural, given that he's the only candidate whose platform does not include selling assets or contracting-out city workers' jobs.

Rocco Rossi spoke out on, um, pool reform yesterday, saying that Toronto's shortening of hours for pools all over the city is a result of mismanaged books and out of control spending. Many people were upset at the limited hours as temperatures reached 32-degrees and pools closed early. Rossi spoke outside Kiwanis Outdoor Pool in East York, which had its hours shortened to 4pm to 7pm. No updates from Rocco on his broken blender.

The Canadian Food Inspection Agency has issued a warning that beef products sold by North York's Kabul Farms store may be contaminated with E. coli. The agency, along with the Ministry of Health and Health Canada, is already investigating an outbreak of E. coli-related illness in the GTA. The statement, issued yesterday, said that all beef products sold from that store on August 6th should not be consumed.

The National Motorists Association (whose website is host to articles on topics such as "several ways to bring public and private wrath down upon the perpetrators of speed traps") released their annual "Worst North American Speed Trap Cities" list yesterday, and Toronto gets the top spot for Ontario. The list, I should mention, is compiled by tallying the number of speed traps submitted by drivers to the NMA's website; for Toronto this amounts to about 250 to 260 individual traps submitted over the last few years. The Allen Expressway's southbound Lawrence Ave. on-ramp is just one of the hot spots listed on the site. But there is no disclaimer mentioning the fact that Toronto, as our largest city, is likely to have more users submitting speed traps than most other cities in Ontario.

The Air Canada Centre was host yesterday to 19,000 teachers of the Toronto District School Board in a somewhat controversial rally entitled "Believe It! Our Time is Now." The event has garnered criticism ever since its initial price tag of $345,000, later reduced to $125,000. Education director Chris Spence called the conference "absolutely inspirational," with its pulsing lights, big screens and a performance by Kardinal Offishall almost an hour after the event was scheduled to end. I guess someone forgot to ring the bell.

Photo by asianz of the blogTO Flickr pool.

Discussion

43 Comments

@dandmb50 - Daniel .. Toronto / September 2, 2010 at 09:24 am
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@dandmb50 - That's why I would never vote for <b>Pantalone.</b>

If he doesn't have the guts to stand up <i>(but I am standing)</i> and say that he will not march, unless the rest of the candidates are allowed to march, what are we to expect if he becomes Mayor? Is this an indication that he would cater to the Unions? We need someone in office that will stand up to these Unions and why are the Unions dictating who attends the parade anyway?

<b><i>Daniel .. Toronto</b></i>
<a href="http://bit.ly/bKGa13";>My take on the city</a>
LJ / September 2, 2010 at 09:29 am
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the event at the ACC organized by the TDSB for the teacher's is not a big deal, let them have some fun, I mean, they kind of need it to deal with kids today.
dunce / September 2, 2010 at 09:32 am
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That "summit" BS yesterday crosses into tent revival and/or Landmark-ish territory...if anything, it galvanizes the fact that there are two types of people: those who buy into that ambiguous pumping-up of morales with the implicit purpose of benefiting a bureaucracy with flashy lights, Marilyn Manson and a relentless barrage of Nikki Yanofsky, and those who know how dangerous and Jonestown-y that kind of event really is. Kool-aid, anyone? What's really frightening is that those who fall into the first category teach our F'ing kids.
mark / September 2, 2010 at 09:38 am
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Summers off, free concerts and a 100K + summit? Where do I sign up?
Yeah, they "they kind of need it to deal with kids today", but that's what happens when you sign up to be a teacher. You have to teach kids!
Greg replying to a comment from LJ / September 2, 2010 at 09:47 am
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Kids today are just like kids in the olden days and the days 1000 years before that. Kids will be kids. Those who say kids are worse today than in their day are just following a trend that has existed and will continue to exist.
Ryan L. replying to a comment from Greg / September 2, 2010 at 09:57 am
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The big thing that has changed isn't the kids, but the <i>parents</i>. Kids will be whatever they're expected to be.
Foot Foot / September 2, 2010 at 10:13 am
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You're right people. The teachers should have been given a meeting in the basement of a church, fed a meal of canned peas and corned beef and some earl grey tea served up by volunteers three times their age.

J / September 2, 2010 at 10:20 am
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Why is professional development always scrutinized in the public sector? Shareholders would not question such an expense at any corporation if management had deemed it necessary. A drop in the bucket folks - relax.
Greg replying to a comment from J / September 2, 2010 at 10:33 am
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Waste is waste. It's not good no matter the size. Obviously massive waste is worse than small waste, but they are both bad. The thing about waste is its habit forming and culture normalising. If it is considered acceptable it will only grow. The "shareholders" of the TDSB, or the citizens of Toronto were never given a chance to vote on this. If they did, it would most certainly fail.
nandie lowes / September 2, 2010 at 10:34 am
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spoiled teachers! teachers are milking the tax payers of canada. teachers work a 3 hour day at most. (9am to 3pm minus a 1 hour lunch, 1 hour spare and two coffee breaks)teachers get 3 months vacation and no work on weekends. AND collect a 80k salary!!! honestly, actual instruction only takes 15 minutes, the rest of the time it's in-class work for the kids. the teachers union is the biggest scam on our system.
Malcolm replying to a comment from J / September 2, 2010 at 10:37 am
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Why? Because the public sector is funded with the public's money. The public are the shareholders and yes, in the private sector, shareholders would certainly question such largesse in a time of economic uncertainty.
Malcolm replying to a comment from nandie lowes / September 2, 2010 at 10:38 am
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And your math skills tell me you never made it out of school.
Mike replying to a comment from nandie lowes / September 2, 2010 at 10:42 am
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Why aren't you a teacher, Nadine? I mean, they <i>must</i> have the easiest job in the world, as you've laid out their daily schedule, (which is, undoubtedly, completely accurate, I'm sure) and it sounds <i>amazing</i>.
Dave / September 2, 2010 at 10:48 am
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Pardon the interruption of the usual teacher bashing, this was not an event that teachers truly wanted. This was a mandatory event for teachers to attend - administration actually took attendance... So, we didn't have a choice but to attend even though the majority of us did NOT want it.

This was an event pushed by Chris Spence (director of the TDSB). Trust me, most teachers would rather have spent the day in their classroom preparing for the start of school and have the money spent on actual needs.
johnny replying to a comment from nandie lowes / September 2, 2010 at 10:51 am
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I agree completely.
The teacher's union is an out-dated system that only exists to keep teacher's on their lax schedule.
Dont forget to add countless breaks, PD days and all that to the list. It goes on and on.
Seems like my daughter always has days off of school.
Elizabeth replying to a comment from @dandmb50 - Daniel .. Toronto / September 2, 2010 at 11:02 am
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Umm, Daniel, the Unions control the parade since it is THEIR PARADE! They can invite or not invite anyone they want! Have they invited YOU? Probably not unless you're a member of a union, which I'm guessing is a no.

Read more in wikipedia's entry on Labour Day, or a great book by two Toronto historians: The workers' festival: a history of Labour Day in Canada, By Craig Heron, Steven Penfold.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Day
SAMEER replying to a comment from Dave / September 2, 2010 at 11:06 am
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Yeah I know that you didn't want to participate. A teacher buddy of mine was whining about having to return from the cottage early because of it.

mathew replying to a comment from J / September 2, 2010 at 11:31 am
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"Why is professional development always scrutinized in the public sector? Shareholders would not question such an expense at any corporation if management had deemed it necessary. A drop in the bucket folks - relax."

because J, unlike shareholders in a company, we, the public have no choice in paying for this. teachers have had it too good for too long and the fact that taxpayers money was spent for this, rather than on things that would benefit our children is appauling. when you choose to be a teacher, you know what you are getting into : a decent paying job that can be extremely stressful at times, a monday-friday schedule that isn't 9-5, and summers off. just like the TTC employee knows what he/she is getting into, just like the doctor, the pilot, the grocery clerk, etc.......i've been a chef for 10 years, and in those 10 years i've almost worked 20 by 9-5 monday-friday, 2 weeks vacation standards. am i complaining, no. i knew this going in and accepted it as part of my career. i decided i needed a break from the hours and stepped away for a year and a half, and will be going back soon. do i know what i'm getting back into, you're damn right i do. you can't reap the benifits of your feild and whine, bitch, piss and moan about the hardships.......unless you are a teacher or work for the TTC that is.
Dave / September 2, 2010 at 12:01 pm
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Nice to know that teachers are considered a valuable profession. Why shouldn't we have it "so good"? Yes, some of us get paid a little over 80k a year. And yes we have summers off. Why yes, we also get some holidays off during the year.

Call it the cost of having an educated workforce that's going to take care of your a** when you're employing people, or sick, or retired. If you think you can teach your kids so well, I ask you to take it upon yourself and teach them. It's so simple, right? Or if you feel that the public education system is so costly and inefficient, please take your kid to the private system.

We are trained professionals who do more work than you know. It would be nice to work only three hours a day except we start (no less than) 30 min before school starts and stay afterward as well. We need to constantly prepare materials and have them ready. Imagine doing a different presentation to your business clients everyday - do you just through it together at the last minute, or do you plan it out and make things ready? We call meetings about the mental health of students, their performance, meetings with grade teams, meetings with clubs, meetings with divisions/subjects. Yard duty, reports, photocopying, marking, day plans, filing, etc. (I lie, marking can usually be done at home). PD days are professional activities, meetings of all kinds (teachers, admin, parents), filing and catch up days. Not days off, as many believe.

So yeah, you may think that teachers don't do anything at school but to tell the truth, some find it hard to even get the time to use the washrooms.

I'm not moaning. I truly love my job and I knew what I was getting into. The pay is enough, but it's not why I do it. I want to help kids, all kids. No they are not always perfect, some are downright awful. But it's a pleasure to know that I am doing something to help make them into productive members of society. The only downside to my job is that there are a lot of jerks out there that don't respect my contributions.

Now, I still don't think that this event was useful. The union doesn't either. So, e-mail the TDSB (no these aren't "The Teachers", but rather our bosses) and tell them not to waste money on this kind of thing again and to instead use it to keep EAs and CYWs in the classroom.
Jo / September 2, 2010 at 12:36 pm
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Personally I'd like to know why a wading pool needs 2-3 lifeguards, and large swimming pools need up to a dozen lifeguards (with another 30-40% staff sitting around waiting to go "on duty" or pretending to clean those fetid facilities)

Did you know that any child that can't swim the width of the pool and back is required to have an adult within arms reach at all times...in the shallow end! Half the adults there probably couldn't pass that test mind you. Which leaves us to wonder exactly what is that over-staffed lifeguards are paid to do besides warn people from running, or resting on a floating rope.

I suspect that this is another case of the "safety of our children" being leveraged for exorbitant concessions, and public costs, to benefit the few.

Just Sayin
Jo
jojo replying to a comment from Dave / September 2, 2010 at 12:49 pm
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Wow. You saved up a lot to say during your enitre summer off!
Me and the rest of Toronto were busy working our asses off.
Marco / September 2, 2010 at 12:53 pm
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Whenever I speak to people who complain about how "easy" teachers have it, I get the distinct impression that these people are unanimously so ill-informed about the nature of the world, ignorant of history, innumerate, and barely literate, that they shouldn't be entrusted with children, let alone the responsibility of raising them, and heaven-forfend, actually teaching them. Rather, they have knowledge about a particular subject matter that enables them to earn their living, go home, watch TV, and complain in comment threads about the people to whom they entrust their precious little ones, the future of our society.

And no, I'm not a teacher. I have had two children go through the public system (and subsequently graduate university), and I am in awe at the diversity of challenges that teachers face day in and day out. Remember, boys and girls, teachers not only have to have a good knowledge of their subject matter (humanities, social sciences, and STEM - science, tech, engineering, and math) and the theories and practices of pedagogy (including a variety of instruction methods, several different forms of evaluation and assessment methods, etc.), but also have to be skilled in psychology, sociology, cultural anthropology (esp. here in Toronto), and political science.

All in all, teachers are excellent value to society, and contribute far more relative to their salaries and benefits than the average office worker.
fdr replying to a comment from Dave / September 2, 2010 at 12:59 pm
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Nice rebuttal Dave. Thumbs up.

Most teachers are dedicated hard working professionals that often pay out of pocket for supplies due to chronic underfunding and mismanagement by TDSB.

I'm anti-union and believe that governments often waste gobs of money on iniatives they have neither the mandate nor competency to carry out. But teacher bashing has nothing to do with either. Yes, they're required to be union members, but that doesn't necessarily make them lazy freeloaders. Blame the union, blame the TDSB, blame the education ministries, but picking on the teachers is wrong.

I've visited my kids' classrooms. I sure as hell wouldn't want to have to run those rooms for 6+ hours a day. They earn their 60-80k.

ben / September 2, 2010 at 01:05 pm
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prep time(checking email and hockey fantasy stats) and photocopying demand an 80k salary for 3 hour work day, 3 months vacation and a 4 day work week that includes pa,pd, holidays, civic holidays. i doubt it. teachers cash cow will end very soon just like the lazy auto workers. tax payers have no sympathy for teachers who go on strike every year and demand more money and less work. i don't know any country that pays teachers a ridiculous wage.
Rob replying to a comment from Dave / September 2, 2010 at 01:08 pm
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Dave, your heart is in the right place but the perception (quickly turning into reality) is something else. Your unions are bloateg, aging relics that need their stranglehold on our education system to be broken.

I wish I had teachers that seem to be as dedicated as you come across. I was in high school in the 905 during the Mike Harris years and my teachers were quite the opposite and some were militant.

I never needed or wanted to hear their opinions of the Premier in Math or Chemistry class...yet I did, non stop. I understand this may not be the case today but it certainly opened the door for continuing political commentary in classrooms.

I can only think of a handful (less than 5) that were truly the exception and made learning fun and enjoyable.

For too long teachers have fought change. Ideas the public would like implmented (teacher testing, year-round schooling, pay cuts) are routinely rejected and followed up with a threat to strike or work-to-rule.

I recognize this has not happened lately but only because the unions have been bought off with more taxpayer money. But even this should rightfully anger people. I don't want my tax dollars used to buy off peace with teachers.

The entire system needs a revamp.

I do not have kids but I can imagine (if I put myself in the shoes of a parent) that all we want for our kids is to have politics taken out of the classroom, competant teachers teaching their material and year round schooling so students don't forget what they've learned.

I will say the public is quick to get jealous about the summers off. Although the constant complaining about prep work is a bit annoying.

I understand it's tough but I prepare stuff for my boss everyday. I make presentations regularly. And as for your hours, I start at 8 and work well past 5, so I put in the same, if not more, time as you do.

All the public sees is this aging body that refuses to listen and resists EVERYTHING.

Your comments, this event, the summers off and everything else people complain about will never change this perception unless your unions decided to radically change the way they operate and how education is taught in the province, which will never happen, unfortunately.
Lauren replying to a comment from @dandmb50 - Daniel .. Toronto / September 2, 2010 at 01:22 pm
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In regards to the first comment:

"If he doesn't have the guts to stand up (but I am standing) and say that he will not march, unless the rest of the candidates are allowed to march, what are we to expect if he becomes Mayor?"

Why should he have to stand up for his other mayoral candidates, especially when the council clearly doesn't support their platforms or views? He's in a race against them not with them.
Mike W replying to a comment from johnny / September 2, 2010 at 01:34 pm
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There's an incredible amount of inaccuracies in these comments but I had to comment PD days have the teachers still at work, <a href="http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-professional-development-day.htm";>Professionally Developing</a> their skills.

Maybe if you included yourself in your daughters education you would be better prepared to discuss said system.
Carly replying to a comment from ben / September 2, 2010 at 01:34 pm
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Where are you getting this 4 day work week business from?
KL / September 2, 2010 at 01:56 pm
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I don't understand how someone can rally against teachers. Teaching is easily one of the most important professions and while they are compensated well, it's not nearly enough.
dean replying to a comment from Carly / September 2, 2010 at 03:04 pm
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the plain truth is that teachers really don't work hard. period. there profession doesn't have to make a 'profit' or answer to stock holders. that is why standardize testing was opposed by teachers, the didn't want to be held accountable for there worthless teaching. look at any school parking lot by 330pm it is practically empty. do the math it's a long weekend for teachers every other weekend if you count pa, pd, activity day, civic holiday, holidays and sick days.
johnny replying to a comment from Mike W / September 2, 2010 at 03:27 pm
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I do involve myself, and I have to.
I have to make sure she has something to do with all those PD days and holidays and early-day-Tuesdays and blah blah blah.
Mike / September 2, 2010 at 03:53 pm
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I'm reading so many people write that teachers are so overpaid and they don't do any work and they're always off, so my question is: Why didn't you all become teachers, then? I mean, if it's as easy as you claim, you'd be an idiot not to be one, no?

You weren't forced into your profession. You chose it, just as teachers opted to go into theirs. You enjoy the benefits of your job, just as they enjoy theirs.

I wish I made as much money as Gloria Allred does, but I'm not a lawyer. Should I cry about all the money she makes and complain or should I kick myself for not being an attorney?
J / September 2, 2010 at 04:10 pm
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The fact of the matter is - the rest of us do NOT know what it is like to be a teacher. So yes, if the teachers did not want the professional development session, it deserves to be questioned. But the rest of us are attacking this with obvious biases and without complete information.
gina / September 2, 2010 at 04:23 pm
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teachers will never get any respect because they go on strike EVERY year, crying about wages or less prep time. when is the last time teachers actually took a stand on budget issues or resources for the students they teach. NEVER.
copper queen / September 2, 2010 at 04:48 pm
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Gina, I have been a teacher for 10 years and have never been on strike, in fact I do believe the last time there was a teacher strike in Toronto was 1981.

Also johnny, I don't know which board your daughter attends school in but in the TDSB there was only only 1 PA day last year in Feb and I believe there are 2 this year, and teachers do have to work on those days.

dean, its THEIR, not there
Eric26 / September 2, 2010 at 06:32 pm
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Kind of ironic that these people that HATE teachers are so uneducated about what teachers do...
ben replying to a comment from Eric26 / September 2, 2010 at 07:37 pm
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eric- how can people be so uneducated about teachers when everyone here has spent an entire life time with them??? don't be so nieve about your profession. you might be the big fish inside your classroom but outside the real world you're just another lazy autoworker.
Eric26 / September 2, 2010 at 09:31 pm
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You have (presumably) spent your entire life with the English language, but you clearly still don't know much about it.
Dave McD / September 2, 2010 at 11:55 pm
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John Cartwright is a disgrace to the Labour Movement with his thin skinned ideological position that does far more damage to the cause than help. The very idea that Pantalone is a viable Candidate for Mayor let alone the only Candidate is an insult to the public and makes Labour look foolish and irrelevant. Just as it was a great coup for the Gay Parade to get Lastman to attend the Labour Parade has always had a tradition of inclusion not playing narrow political games of exclusion. Cartwright and his wife Councillor Fletcher did not leave the Communist Party until after the fall of the Berlin Wall but are still playing the divisive and destructive class struggle game where all those who don't support them are class enemies. His own organization should get rid of him just as his previous employer, the Toronto Building Ttrades Council, did. Cartwright is trapped in a time warp at least 50 years behind the times.
gadfly replying to a comment from Dave / September 3, 2010 at 07:51 am
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Dave, you are the exception, not the rule. I have known many teachers over the years (the dog park where I used to walk my dog before he died last year was full of them at 4:00!) and those ones, at least, are a whiny, self-entitled lot.
I graduated in 1980. My generation witnessed the end of the dedicated teacher, although you surely didn't want to get in the way of the teacher's parking lot at 3:20! LOL
Rob's comments are bang-on. We never had to endure the political commentary, but in the '70s the government was under the illusion that they had endless amounts of money to spend and caved to nearly every union demand - in fact, that is why all levels of government are bankrupt today. Governments in the '80s began to realize their was a massive train wreck coming and when they tried to reign in some of those golden contracts; well, the unions surely didn't like it.
The fact is most teachers don't know what it is like to have a real job. Most people have to go in early, stay late, work through lunches and don't get 10 weeks off in the summer, plus Spring Break and Christmas.
I can't stand kids, so I'd never want to be a teacher, but I sure would like their perks!

PS: My generation had to endure a doozer of a teachers's strike in the winter of '74 I believe it was. The TTC also went on strike that year for most of the summer. Ah, those were the days!
Mike W replying to a comment from gadfly / September 3, 2010 at 10:17 am
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How people can generalize entire demographics of professionals based on a few vague examples is beyond me.

Have you considered that there were more teachers than those you encountered in a dog park? Maybe they weren't around because they were (brace yourself) still at school.

<i>"I can't stand kids, so.."</i>
Teachers have to deal with these kids you can't stand, only everyday, yet you think teachers have it easy?

You clearly have never met a majority of teachers or I'd wager even more than 20. Would you insist that every example that is the opposite of your personal one is an "exception to the rule"?
zoe / September 3, 2010 at 11:09 am
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there is an generation of students who lived through decades of striking teachers. this generation has no patience with your powerful teachers union. be very careful of your entitlement.
Sky Captain replying to a comment from Foot Foot / September 9, 2010 at 06:04 am
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Yes, because according to obdurate, anti-union, anti-labor trolls like you, teacher's unions are the work of the devil, and must be destroyed utterly. Hopefully, they will still be around for all eternity, righting whatever wrong befalls the people who are members of them.

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