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Morning Brew: TTC suicide barriers, St. Clair LRT class-action lawsuit, Ontario deficit lower then expected, Durham officer accused of street racing, stabby strip club

Posted by Jerrold Litwinenko / March 25, 2010

bumper stickerThe TTC wants to install suicide barriers at subway stations on the Yonge line, despite facing chronic funding shortfalls. At a cost of $10-million per station, this is an extremely costly proposition... but the theory is that it would save lives and make the system run more efficiently. Is this a prime example of a nanny state and waste of money, or is this money well spent and is it the TTC's duty to protect people from themselves? Every year, more than 20 people jump in front of subway trains.

It seemed like only a matter of time. A class-action lawsuit in the sum of $100-million has been launched by businesses on St.Clair Avenue against the City of Toronto, the Province, and the TTC. 100 people are expected to sign on to the lawsuit, which is the result of the dedicated right-of-way LRT streetcar construction project that went over double the estimated budget and is was incomplete for many years. The lawsuit accuses the organizations of public abuse of authority, insufficient oversight, and gross negligence in the construction and delivery of the project respectively... which lead to many commercial enterprises suffering huge losses.

Slow but steady recovery of the economy is being cited as the reason for a slightly lower than anticipated provincial deficit of $21.3-billion for fiscal 2009-2010. It's still a record high deficit for Ontario, but it being lower than originally thought bodes well for the government's 7-year plan to get out of the red and into the black. The budget will be revealed today, and preserving education and health care services are said to be priorities

A Durham region police officer has been charged with street racing. Although a spokesperson for the force wouldn't reveal what speed he was clocked at, we do know that the infraction occurred in an 80km/h zone and that in order to be charged under the controversial law, a driver must be doing 50km/h above the limit. Doing in excess of 130km/h, eh? Tsk, tsk (off duty or not).

And things got stabby and bloody outside a Blansdowne strip club yesterday. Three workers were treated in hospital for non-life-threatening stabbing injuries after a dispute escalated and turned violent and a knife was pulled. Nothing says Club Paradise like the sterile waiting room of a hospital and assault charges.

Photo: "Caution: Driver Just Doesn't Give a Shit Anymore" by -- brian cameron --, member of the blogTO Flickr pool.

Discussion

31 Comments

AmericanDream / March 25, 2010 at 08:34 am
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Raise havoc and create delays in the construction of the TTC line and then sue because of the havoc construction delays caused? Pure genius. Kudos.
Richard S / March 25, 2010 at 08:46 am
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Thanks for the big-ass deficit, McGuinty.
picard102 / March 25, 2010 at 08:49 am
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Do we really need these barriers? I just don't see the benefit.
Mark Dowling / March 25, 2010 at 09:00 am
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@picard102

The trains won't stop because a Metro dropped by a passenger blows onto the third rail and catches fire.
The trains won't stop because someone climbs down on to the tracks to retrieve a dropped wallet.
The deafening screech of the brakes will be greatly lessened.
The air at platform level will have far lower amounts of brake dust (PM2.5/PM10)
The platforms will be cleaner because brake dust residue won't be on them
The ventilation can be improved, particularly in summer, so that any cooling won't be overwhelming by a gush of hot air from the tunnels.

In Dubai, they are putting screen doors on an LRT system. But they are all Holt-Renfrewy out there. This is Toronto, the "No Frills" city.
Alison / March 25, 2010 at 09:12 am
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Why does everyone say that these doors are just to stop suicides? So I just imagined those news stories a while back where people got pushed onto the tracks? And the ones where people fell accidentally? Or do they have a special opening for pushers and people who slip to use that they're not mentioning in the stories?
picard102 replying to a comment from Mark Dowling / March 25, 2010 at 09:40 am
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I've heard the downtime for track related incidents is an average of 17mins a day. So to save 17mins a day doesn't seem like it's worth it. Noise and air quality don't seem like a big plus either for $10 million a station. The cooling and heating is about the only plus I see, and I'm not confident that they would bother to do it right.
mr hate / March 25, 2010 at 10:02 am
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I wish the f'ing morons who came up with the suicide barrier idea would commit suicide and let people with half a brain run things.

If they only do some stations then I, a suicidal guy, will ride up to one that doesn't and jump there.

Stupid people are winning. That ain't good.
Collin / March 25, 2010 at 10:07 am
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i know that in Hong Kong, their entire complicated underground system has a barrier. I'm not sure of the cost that went with it, but i'm sure it serves a purpose.

At $10M a station, this is just an april fools joke a week too early.

The TTC needs to be privatized or something and run it like a god damn business!
Neil / March 25, 2010 at 10:18 am
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I, a paying, young and probably life-long TTC patron who has no intention or desire to off myself by jumping in front of a train, will be forced to fund these barriers (since, at $10 million a station, both taxes and fares are bound to go up yet again to cover costs), which will only serve to 'protect' a few idiots who might otherwise jump (and who, in some cases, will just go find other ways to get the job done)? It just doesn't make any sense.
Chris / March 25, 2010 at 10:23 am
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$10 million per station? Seriously? That can't be right. Based on the number of stations we have, that's a $700 million capital committment. Where is this money coming from, if the TTC is broke as we're always hearing?
AC / March 25, 2010 at 10:23 am
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Definitely nanny state. Though I sympathize with the plight of those that are depressed and/or mentally disturbed, what's stopping them from committing suicide another way? Do we suggest doing the same thing with sidewalks?
C'mon - at $10M per station and a system sorely in need of expansion with limited funds to do so this is political suicide (no pun intended).
Adam G - make yourself useful and shut this down.
dionysus / March 25, 2010 at 10:32 am
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hong kong has had full glass walls on their subway stations for a long while, and their stations are clean and well organized. but i think there's more people on the subway at one time there than there are people in toronto.... but anyways, isn't "power outages" at alternating stations every day the cause of problems...haven't really found much of a problem with daily suicides delaying my journey to work. why not put 10million dollars into lowering the price of passes again...dreams...
JT / March 25, 2010 at 10:39 am
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I just cant see how its possible that the TTC is looking to spend more money when we just had a fare increase to maintain the status quo.

jeff / March 25, 2010 at 11:11 am
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The advantage to the barriers as I see it is it forces TTC to automate the system more. The trains must stop in line with the openings which no human can operate effectively. So the big benefit is less staff stopping and starting the trains badly.

The automation runs the trains more efficiently which means better service.

Do I believe it could be done cheaper than 10MM per? Absolutely! Just take the project out of TTC hands and you will have it better, sooner and cheaper. For example, call HK and get their barrier contractors to quote on the job.
nick d replying to a comment from picard102 / March 25, 2010 at 11:29 am
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Agreed. People are going to off themselves one way or another. These barriers would merely divert the problem, not save lives, as they claim.
S / March 25, 2010 at 11:32 am
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Does this mean they'll get rid of the yellow lego thingys you see next to the tracks? They were installed for the blind. They won't need them anymore. Add another few million to remove them.
Once again, the barrier idea is a 'politically correct' one. The term is to cause chaos, hatred and milk the savings of all taxpayers.
slick / March 25, 2010 at 11:38 am
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Thank God I'm rich and don't have to worry about the plight of the commoner.

Life must be difficult below Cloud 9.

I wish you all the best of luck in your incessitant worry of public transit, social issues and the plight of the working class.

'Tis all so boring and trite.
scott d / March 25, 2010 at 11:46 am
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what a load of angry people. I am not for barriers but the snark about is sad. I would like to erect a barrier to keep snarks away who feel anything they dont like is a crime against humanity. : )
jamesmallon / March 25, 2010 at 12:22 pm
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In Tokyo they can do more road work on a street in a weekend than we did in three years on St. Clair. Maybe if the lawsuit is successful and costly they'll hire someone who can organize his @$$ out of a paper-bag to run the next project.
Nick replying to a comment from AmericanDream / March 25, 2010 at 12:29 pm
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Exactly what I was thinking - Save our St. Clair sues the city in 2005 which delayed the whole construction process, and then one of the judges who was involved turns out to have been a "Friend of the Village" opposed to construction of a project near his home on St. Clair. I think this aspect delayed the construction process by a year, if not more. These people should just move on - last time I was up on St. Clair it looked great, and several new places have opened.
gadfly / March 25, 2010 at 12:47 pm
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No matter what the reason, it is outrageous that the travesty on St. Clair took five years. It's not just limited to the TTC, the city roadworks are notoriously slow - they just don't give a damn. Richmond has had 2 lanes blocked for 2 weeks now, just passed University -for what? I have yet to see any actual work taking place on the mess they've made.
The entire process through which the city does it's work needs to be revamped. There is absolutely no incentive to speed up projects or come in on budget when they can just start whining at budget time and get whatever increases they want.
As to the suicide barriers: couldn't we install some sort of pressure washer system on the front of the subway trains to hose off the mess from the jumper and just keep the train moving? If it only takes 17 minutes to investigate the death, you TTC types are spoiled. The city routinely closes major roads for hours on end to 'investigate' a fatality. I use the quotation marks because there are usually 9 or 10 bored cops standing around, yakking amongst themselves while traffic is backed up for blocks, as happened on Jarvis a year or two ago when a Civic hit a pedestrian.
The banner of 'safety' is raised high to cover all forms of laziness and ineptitude, but who is ultimately going to pay for all this?
ss / March 25, 2010 at 12:50 pm
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I don't know that the barriers are really just to protect the people wanting to commit suicide. Sadly, someone who has made that decision will carry it out one way or another. The barriers are just as much for the drivers who have to live with having seen someone die by subway train, the other riders who will witness it, the havoc it will wreak to the entire system while people at other stations waiting for a train... not to mention people who are pushed or fall. There are a lot more people involved than just the jumper. I do, however, think a $10 million price tag per station seems high, given the state the TTC is in. Really the money is probably better spent elsewhere.
Jeff replying to a comment from picard102 / March 25, 2010 at 12:56 pm
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That's an average of 17 minutes a day. But suicides don't happen every day (I think). So if they happened once a week, that'd be saving a delay of 7 X 17 = 119 minutes, or almost two hours. In a worst case scenario, you'd have to wait two hours longer than normal for your monday morning commute.
Rezwan / March 25, 2010 at 01:22 pm
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Why not put a speed limit when trains enter the subway station. A 10km/h speed limit will give the drivers more control in case someone is on the track. It won't prevent people dying from electrocution but it will prevent collisional death.
jimmy / March 25, 2010 at 03:05 pm
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gadfly / MARCH 25, 2010 AT 12:47 PM

Richmond has had 2 lanes blocked for 2 weeks now, just passed University -for what?

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Uhhh, they're building something called a "condo".

It'll be blocked for another 10 months or so.

Suck it up. Or move.
jeff / March 25, 2010 at 04:00 pm
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hey folks... the suicide prevention is merely a secondary benefit.

the key benefit is 'staff reductions'. Look at it as a way to reduce staff numbers, aka break the union strangle hold, which saves $$$ and runs the system more efficiently.
agentsmith / March 25, 2010 at 04:56 pm
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Why does the TTC keep spending so much damn money on streetcar projects in the first place? Over $100 million for a streetcar track on ONE SINGLE STREET. Have they never heard of electric buses? I know for a fact there are electric buses out there that run on overhead wires just like a streetcar. Or even hybrid buses, for god's sake.
agentsmith replying to a comment from jeff / March 25, 2010 at 04:58 pm
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How do you figure? It's not like there's a large amount of employees whose job it is to stand on the platform and make sure no one falls/jumps off... quite the opposite, in fact.
Dave McD / March 25, 2010 at 04:58 pm
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The $10 Million a station has to be a joke. I know that TTC tendering costs are close to the highest in the Province because Mayor Miller's friends in the Building Trade Unions are given a monopoly but even with that something is irrationally given that they will be getting big time discount on the door system because they are doing so many stations. Open the tendering to all qualified tenderers without a MillerMonopoly and take the project tendering and administration out of the hands of the TTC and the price will easily drop in half. Same for all Transit City and new Subway work. After St. Clair we have seen enough. There is a better way but the TTC's construction bureaucracy will not provide it.
gadfly replying to a comment from jimmy / March 25, 2010 at 10:42 pm
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Wow, you're observant: it's a haphazardl filled trench, surrounded by cones, simply sitting in the middle for no reason, other than the fact the city doesn't give a sh@t about motorists. Perish the thought if it blocked a bicycle lane for 2 weeks and counting.....
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