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Reebok Crossfit Liberty Village

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Posted by Alexandra Grigorescu / Posted on April 9, 2012

crossfit gym toronto liberty villageReebok Crossfit Liberty Village has been providing crossfit training to the area for just six weeks when I stroll in, hopped up on Red Bull and ready to take on whatever owner and trainer Jordan Symonds could throw at me. How wrong I was: crossfit broke my spirit (and re-built it) in record time.

reebok crossfit liberty villageI didn't know quite what to expect from crossfit, a concentrated workout that first started gaining steam a decade ago by combining high-intensity cardio, aerobics, as well as strength and weight training. The workouts are fully scaleable: I'm apparently unable to complete even a single pull-up, so resistance bands are brought in to support my weight while still ensuring I'm stressing the same muscles. Through use of sandbags, weighted bars, ropes, and other somewhat intimidating tools, you're promised a more efficient workout in under 20 minutes than a treadmill could ever hope to deliver in an hour. Symonds recites an almost mathematical formula: "increasing power output over time will equal results."

liberty village gymSymonds has worked for 6 years in the fitness industry, and is fully certified in every crossfit division from olympic lift to gymnastics. Along with partners Matt LeFave and Bryan Marshall, Symonds was already planning to open in Liberty Village when they were approached to be the only Reebok-branded crossfit gym in Toronto. The gym can accommodate hour-long crossfit classes of up to 14 participants and offers foundational courses and free 1-on-1 consultations and baseline workouts, as well as 1-on-1 coaching and olympic lifting. Monthly memberships are divided by visits per week--twice ($150), thrice ($195) or unlimited ($250)--or as a flexible 10-pack ($185). The weekly schedule can be found here.

reebok crossfit training torontoThe trainers wear Reebok-branded crossfit outfits, while the gym sells take-home crossfit equipment and has 2 washrooms that also serve as showers and change rooms. Symonds tells me there's no room for bad attitudes at his gym, and his goal is to foster a sense of community while helping athletes attain personal bests. Each crossfit class begins with a 5-10 minute dynamic warm-up--ours includes crab walks and lunges, classic leftovers from high school gym class-- and is followed by a 15-25 minute strength and skill component, which tests balance, strength and fitness. A whiteboard holds the workout of the day, which is timed, and each participant notes their performance, with an "Rx-ed" indicating that the workout was completed "as prescribed."

reebok crossfit gym torontoMy class of four women enters cheerful, becomes mostly bedraggled within minutes, and then shortly after completing the workout, passes through to a wearily blissful state. Our prescribed workout is named a "Running Fran" and entails 21 thrusters and chin-ups, then 15, then 9, each set interrupted by an outdoor 400m run. Crossfit workouts are somewhat glibly named after hurricanes, and we're told the Fran is notorious for its difficulty. The thrusters begin with a squat leading into an overhead lift with a weighted bar. We all vie for the bare 15lb, but are good-naturedly chastised that the recommended weight for women is 65 lb. Who are these women, I wonder.

reebok crossfit liberty villageMark my words: crossfit is hard, physically and emotionally. Even as a former tennis player, I've never once emitted animal sounds during a workout, and while I wouldn't call myself the pinnacle of fitness, I rarely come up against something that I simply cannot do. Confronted with 10 more reps of pull-ups, long after my arms are the approximate consistency of noodles, I grunt, growl, and barely stifle a hiss. The soundtrack of Eminem and Evanescence ends up being oddly motivational, if only to stoke my anger. Half-way during my second 400m run, I slow to a walk, thinking I'd catch my breath while away from Symonds' watchful gaze. Unfortunately, nearby construction workers take over the panopticon: "Keep running," a man calls out, "you're in last place."

"Second-last," I correct him, with more than a touch of vitriol, but pick up the pace.

reebok crossfit training gymI was warned by another participant that crossfit becomes addictive and the endorphin rush is well-beyond anything I've experienced dumbly plugging away on a machine. I finish third with a time of 16:36 and as I record it on the white-board, that sense of competition swells in me. I want to try again, my mind having already cushioned the lung-crushing effort I'd experienced just moments ago. Then, I remember Symonds' words to me when I attempted to flee the pull-up station after a particularly lacklustre attempt: "Was that 21," he asked slyly, "or was that 20.5?"

Well played, Symonds. Well played.
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Discussion

39 Comments

Lesley / April 6, 2012 at 11:26 am
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Awesome, accurate review — I felt the exact same way when I went!
Reebok? / April 9, 2012 at 08:53 pm
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What is Reebok offering?
Brian / April 10, 2012 at 12:58 am
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@ $250.00/month you can pay for a gym membership for 6+ months and another $250 you could train with a personal trainer 2 times a month for 4-5 of those months....... and do a more normal workout that wont leave you motionless the next day.... biggest fad and ripoff going
Mac / April 10, 2012 at 09:21 am
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Brian will get the fitness that he pays for. People that cry about being sore after a workout are not challenging themselves to do more than they thought they could do, and they never will.
Proof / April 10, 2012 at 11:36 am
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I've done CrossFit a bunch of times and yah, after my first try I was in a LOT of pain (going down stairs was not fun). But now, from just one class a week, I can push myself really hard and not pay for it the next day. Your body adjusts. You get strong faster than you'd think.
Moola Moola / April 10, 2012 at 12:33 pm
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Cool space, but 150-250/month is pretty steep unless you're a pro athlete, CEO or crime lord.
Interested / April 10, 2012 at 02:07 pm
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Brian - interested where you can find personal training for $250 a month 2x per week. Thats like 30 bucks a session...? $250 a month is quite a bit more than a regular gym membership. I suppose if the coaching is good, and you were going 4-5 times per week - $10 bucks a class is decent!
Not cheap / April 10, 2012 at 09:17 pm
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Other Crossfit gyms are quite a bit cheaper, no idea why they are charging so much. However I would pay $250/month for Crossfit, it is a large part of my life. You get out of it what you want.
New member / April 11, 2012 at 09:12 am
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I actually just joined here and love it. The prices listed on this article are on a month to month basis - the rates are noticeably less if you join for more than one month at a time
ccm / April 14, 2012 at 09:26 am
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Frankly, anyone who pays money merely to stay fit is crazy. You can do that on your own for nothing. $150 dollars a month to do burpees and boxjumps! Forget about it. I just did some and it didn't cost me a dime.
AgB / May 26, 2012 at 09:44 pm
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TO THE STAFF OF RCFLV:

If you choose to charge your clients a whopping $150/month then DON'T CANCEL CLASSES just to host "celebrities" or "private training". If you must, then maybe you should reconsider lowering your fees. (In the fitness industry, clients who cxl on their trainers are still expected to pay for the missed session. So if the coaches cxl on their clients...)

Also, you've been open only 4 months now so please please PLEASE do not cut your paying clients short by giving half-ass coaching sessions and continually "capping" workouts. If you continually have to "cap" workouts, then maybe you should also consider the level of difficulty in your daily workouts.

This is a wonderful gym in a thriving community. You started off on such a high note, don't start slipping now...
Brent replying to a comment from ccm / June 21, 2012 at 10:45 am
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I think your missing the benefits of joining (paying) a group or anything similar to this. Benefits include: a trainer (good or bad), use of equipment and the best benefit of it: doing it with like minded individuals.
ccm / June 21, 2012 at 11:52 am
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There are no benefits to working with a bad trainer. The best piece of equipment is free and you don't have to visit an expensive gym to utilize it - it's your own body. If you want to stay/get fit with others you can join a group like the Toronto Outdoors Club and sign up for their more challenging hikes. Or start your own group. Staying healthy is easy and cheap.
Jim / June 24, 2012 at 08:46 pm
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just found this and find the comments quite interesting and humorous.
i worked out at goodlife with a personal trainer.
i needed a personal trainer. unlike Brian and ccm, i don't have the discipline to really keep at it unless there is an investment (or a penalty perhaps).
in any event i have moved to RLVCF from good life and find it well worth the investment. a good group of participants with some great coaches.
it works well. give it a try.
jdog / July 8, 2012 at 11:30 pm
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Join crossfit if you want to hurt yourself...not a place for beginners but could work with people who have experience in the gym. For the fees you pay at this gym you're better off hiring a personal trainer from a gym but just make sure it's not Goodlife. Do your research in what to look for in a personal trainer and invest your money there where you will receive structures programs and not randomized workouts.
Trishin / July 15, 2012 at 10:21 pm
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I am a crossfitter and would love to join RLVCF, as i live in the area but the pricing is ridiculous.
$150/month for only 2 classes a month and $240/month for unlimited. Most Crossfit gyms that i have attended are about $140-160/month for unlimited classes.

Just food for thought.
J / November 30, 2012 at 08:04 pm
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For $3000 a Year you can get a membership @ a gym like extreme Fitness or Good Life and get personal Training for two years and still have money left over rip off!. The people who go to these places are the same people you see at star bucks. They like to waste money it makes the feel good.
Joanne / December 1, 2012 at 01:10 pm
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All I can say is cross fit is an amazing fitness approach and if someone wants and can afford to pay whatever amount is quite frankly their money to spend and simply their business (no harm being done). I personally can't afford RLVCF, as a student but koodos to the dedication from any person getting out there and giving back to their body, however they choose to. Though, it would be nice to find a cross fit gym in Toronto area that is student friendly ($$). :)

Cheers people!
Reader / December 3, 2012 at 09:03 pm
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I was a member at rcflv for about 4 months, I recently gave up (did I really just blow $1000? and doesn't that put things into perspective). While the motivation and results were good for a while, I find things have gone downhill in a short while. The same guys teaching the same classes several times a day, how much can they motivate before they're tired of it...? Well, it's starting to show, they're burnt out.

If these guys put half the time into keeping things fresh as they do in their social media efforts, I might cough up the ridiculous $250 per month. I tried it, but don't see the value, Goodlife at $36 a month is a deal.
Johnny H / December 4, 2012 at 10:09 am
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I started at Reebok Crossfit Liberty Village a short while ago; However,I am on the injured reserve list due to a torn shoulder from some of the training at the club. I have realized very quickly that crossfit concentrates on doing exercises as fast as possible, rather then doing exercises with proper form. While exercising I would be pushed to go faster and faster while I could feel my form breaking and my shoulder ligaments tearing and not once was the trainer concerned about my form.

Once I heal up it will be time to move on to a regular gym, with regular prices and real personal trainers that care about the safety of their members.
Lara replying to a comment from Johnny H / January 7, 2013 at 03:15 pm
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Proper foundation and form for the daily workout is not only taught in the six foundation classes required to move on to the regular workouts, but they are also reviewed at the beginning of every class. The trainers might have as many as 20 people in a class so, depending on where they are standing, they may not be able to see that your form is off during a workout. During a workout, your form and speed is entirely dependent on you, and if you felt your form breaking and your shoulder ligaments tearing - as you said - why on earth would you continue?!

Encouragement is there to motivate, not to force you to do anything that is hurting you or causing injury. The weight was probably too heavy for you, and that was a choice that you made. Scaling workouts is highly encouraged at RCFLV because none of the trainers want to see someone get injured. Sorry to hear that you injured yourself, but take responsibility for your actions and don't blame others for your ego.
Jimbo / January 9, 2013 at 10:12 am
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Actually, Lara, I agree with Johnny H here. I left RCFLV after realizing that the classes started to get too big - like you said, often there's 20 people in a class. Maybe the 'owners' could care enough about their members to staff the classes adequately and prevent the injuries.

20 people in that one class represent a $5000.00 monthly paycheque for these guys. I know that Reebok must demand a significant portion for its brand, the turnkey operation (who is doing all the thinking for these juice monkeys anyway? Why start a real business when you can slap on a recognized corporate logo, pay franchise fees, and be told how to run a business? You don't even have to graduate from Western, just ask dad for a loan!). But they should realize that their remaining clients that are willing to give Reebok $250 a month for its brand should be protected! Ask yourself, how many suckers are out there anyway? A non-renewable resource I say!
Johnny H / January 9, 2013 at 01:15 pm
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Lara encouragement is one thing but when you feel like you are back in grade school being bullied just because you are not lifting enough weight...
When I hurt my shoulder I was (Encouraged as you put it) to keep on going, rather than resting and maybe consulting a doctor. Lara you say take responsibility for your actions and don't blame others for your ego; well it seems like you people at Reebok Crossfit Liberty Village are not taking any responsibility for you actions and are now blaming your members for your lack of education in fitness and lack of compassion for people in general.

Shame on you Reebok Crossfit Liberty Village, shame on you!
Rob T / January 9, 2013 at 03:02 pm
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Hey Johnny T, you should start working out for a couple years at a normal gym before you start up Crossfit you out of shape sloth. You probably got hurt because you are a fat f@*k. Get out of our gym posser. You wish you had enough cash to train at RCFLV you peasant!!!! you wish you went to Western Jimbo smfh
Strike King replying to a comment from Rob T / January 9, 2013 at 04:51 pm
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Lmfao Rob soooooo true, newbies tryin to be hardcore. Stick to pilates you cant handle this. Even our girls be stronger then there guys. I would rather less of these newbs in the gym anyway, the more that get hurt the less time for them to get the F otta my way
Daniela / January 9, 2013 at 06:01 pm
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Glad I read these threads, I wanted to check this place out but it really doesn't sound that girl-friendly. I guess you have to be pretty 'hardcore' to join a place like this, can't be all that friendly to the less athletic type I suppose. Good to know...Pilates it is.
Roger replying to a comment from Daniela / January 12, 2013 at 12:05 am
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That gym is right beside Goodlife. Spending 4 times the money just to say you are now into Reebok Crossfit sounds really stupid to me. Just saying but whatever floats your boat
Roger replying to a comment from Daniela / January 12, 2013 at 12:41 am
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I do not think Johnny H is lying, looks like there is tons of proof that injuries are very common in Reebok Crossfit. I attached a few links below

http://www.thedreamlounge.net/crossfit-injury/

http://gawker.com/5928989/

http://www.endofthreefitness.com/is-crossfit-injury-ridden/

http://www.crudefitness.com/training/how-crossfit-forges-elite-failure/
Blackfly / January 21, 2013 at 04:52 pm
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1) Any strenuous exercise can injure you, if you're not prepared, both mentally and physically. Educate yourself.

2) If you talk like a gym douche, you probably are. Your ripped abs and perfect gluts will be masked by the stupidity that pours from your mouth. Think about this when you comment.

3) If you feel it costs too much, go price some real estate in Liberty Village. Its brutal.

4) You can get the same results through other forms of "Cross" training. Join a climbing gym. Join a running club. Join a cycling club. Join a rowing club. Take yoga lessons. Go to chapters and buy books on nutrition, then READ them. Sign up for a boot-camp session. Enrol in a martial arts program. All of this you can do for the price of a year at RBCF.

5) Excuses don't burn fat and tone muscle. Period.
Josh replying to a comment from Blackfly / January 27, 2013 at 09:07 pm
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Thanks for the heads up Blackfly, it seems like you are correct in pointing out that Reebok Crossfit is filled with juice head gym douches as you and numerous posters have already pointed out. There are better and cheaper options that are available, I really like Goodlife as they have fixed rates nation wide and certified trainers.

Thanks Again
Marc replying to a comment from Rob T / January 27, 2013 at 11:36 pm
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After reading these comments from people talking down to someone who is TRYING to be healthy and get in shape .. its disgusting .. I don't know if you represent the company but you are a shameful person. No wonder people have bad impressions of bodybuilders/athletes. inspire people ... remember you started out somewhere too ... I would never go here ....
Marc replying to a comment from Blackfly / January 27, 2013 at 11:40 pm
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thanks for that post .. I was disgusted reading these ppl here.
Clairmonde / February 4, 2013 at 11:09 am
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I used to be very athletic and known for adventure racing and other long marathon endurance sports with very few women and days of hard core endurance (think paddling 742km in 4 days!). Life took me in another direction for a while where I gained weight, lost my strength and destroyed my athletic confidence.

A friend doing crossfit recommended I join to get back to form and back to racing. I have to say some of the attitudes and comments have really turned me off. I am not worried about the cost as I recognize I need a coach to get me through the hurdle and re-create the hard core environment I was used to. Unfortunately, to see people dissing new attendees really made me question call to inquire about a membership. You know, I used to kick ass and I was looking for a place that was tough but safe to get a once dedicated athlete back into shape and help me get over the self confidence hit I have taken falling out of racing form.

It is interesting, in all my races we had rules that you must help a racer in trouble or you were disqualified for life as ignoring a racer in trouble could mean life or death in Northern Canada. This created a great community of hard core and new racers all working towards a common goal of racing, winning, improving, and connecting. I don't get this feeling from the comments.

Perhaps I am wrong and someone else can convince me that these comments are the exception and not the cultural attitude.

Hardcore xfitter / February 9, 2013 at 09:02 pm
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Clairmond

Like it says Reebok Crossfit is the sport of fitness and it has arrived. I am a huge fan and believer yo.
I think the culture of competition of us at RCFLV helps us become better at being us! The culture is eat or be eaten! And i love it

LMFAO

You don't know hardcore like crossfit hardcore!!!

If your in my way when i on fire doing box jumps, damn straight I will step on your face to get ahead of you! I just hope I have my cleats on when I do it!

Go back to paddling your canoe and stay the f otta my gym, we don't need no more noobs at RCFLV - classes are to full already!

Like they said Goodlife down the street, do that for a few years b4 u ready to challenge us


Crotch / February 10, 2013 at 08:13 pm
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Damn straight! That's the way we like it! Hardcore to the core at RCFLV!

And we never paddled anything, ever! Ha ha

Goodlife Clare monde, all the way until you grow some ballz!!!
Howard Smyth / February 11, 2013 at 11:37 am
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Wow, this just made my decision easy. Goodlife it is

Thanks all
Balance / February 20, 2013 at 08:47 pm
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I must say, after having been a xmember at several crossfit clubs now, including rcflv for several months, that rcflv is the most aggressive and testosterone driven club in the GTA. You can decide for yourself what that means.

The owners are simultaneously misguided and über arrogant (as a previous poster eluded, let's call it Western U entitlement). Both owners, N&J, could have used a couple years of training at Goodlife, and if they had, I wish they had picked up a bit more humility and compassion along the way.

As a first hand witness, I can see why the reported injuries are common, and why the cutthroat culture has become rampant. Not sure what Reebok has in mind, but I hope this isn't it.

I am no longer a member, and I don't see myself going back. I don't like the culture, and I don't think a person there would even glance back at a racer in trouble, despite the polished and manicured promotional videos the website portrays. Incredibly (pricey) glossy media, note the self aggrandizing glamour shots of the owners, circa my girlfriend grades 9 thru 10...really? You paid for those? You're hot)

In my opinion, this place would justify $150 a month if it shed the gloss, attitude and arrogance. Unlikely knowing the owners' need for promotion at the expense of paying members.
LBlack / March 17, 2013 at 08:45 pm
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I started at RCLV at the beginning of January and I must say that it has been one of the best decisions I have ever made. I did not join because I wanted to be extremely fit, or because it is the new hot thing in fitness, I joined because after trying a class with them I absolutely loved it. I do not believe people need to be negative towards one another about prices, egos etc. If you enjoy it then keep at it, if you don't then just walk away. Crossfit is not for everyone and maybe RCLV is not for everyone, but let people decide for themselves. I have tried several different crossfit gyms in the city and I was super intimidated like everyone usually is your first couple times. However, I do support the coaches at RCLV 100%. They have been friendly and supportive, I have never felt like I was being judged and they have helped me in every class that I have taken. If I am not sure if my technique is off I am not afraid to stop and ask them to look at what I am doing. I have also stopped to rest in the WOD and the coaches have been kind no matter how I do in the workout. Being female I have also never felt like the gym has extreme ego's or anything like that. I have actually for the first time started to make friends in the classes that I take and feel a great sense of community being there. If you have never done crossfit it is good to try a few places out if you think you will enjoy it. At the end of the day do whatever you feel most comfortable doing.
TB / March 21, 2013 at 12:08 am
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I'm a fitness instructor, competitive martial arts fighter, and long term fitness fiend. And most of the people here sound absolutely horrendous. You don't own a gym just because you have a membership there, don't tell other people to get the f out. It's not your house. Grow up. You didn't do anything to earn your place there, you just bought it, which doesn't take alot of special talent. Be a bit more friendly, it really won't kill you.

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