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This is a really great site. Thanks! I ll be back soon!]]>
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<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 18:18:44 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Timothy</title>
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a collective reply to comments:

<b>Re: copycat argument</b> This argument makes a lot of sense to me. But then it's unfortunate that this logic doesn't apply to the rest of what's considered newsworthy. Depressive suicides get a gag order to prevent copycats, but suicide bombers get 'breaking news' banners. I mean, a terrorist group like Al Qaida relies on media coverage. Like I once <a href='http://www.goodreads.ca/commentary/2005/07/they-asked-for-it.html'>wrote</a> to the CBC after one of the July's bombings in London, it only seems to give the terrorists what they're after. And as Stevie says, they don't announce them to prevent the copycats looking for attention. All I can say is that if you kill yourself looking for attention you should win a <a href='http://www.darwinawards.com/'>Darwin Award</a>, since as Camus pointed out, you're not going to be around to bask in it. 

I agree with Blamb's point that the TTC (and the Go Train for that matter) are too quiet about the issue. As Katherine raised in her post, sometimes, this is none of our business. But as Luke asks in his reply, 'is a person dying of cancer news?' Well, I guess it is when it's Chuck Strahl or Chuck Cadman. It's also a big deal if your name is Terry Fox or Lance Armstrong. So yes, a person dying of cancer is news sometimes. I was prompted to write the post, and start this discussion, because when people jump off overpasses onto busy highways, that's something I think we have as much a right to know about as the other accidents that tie up traffic. I mean, there was that example last spring of the suicide and attempted murder of the little girl. The only suicides that get into the news are the murder-suicides, which is nothing we all need to know about.  I remember the woman who jumped in front of the subway with her newborn in 2000. That prompted news stories about post-natal depression. And the next time you're delayed for whatever because someone has jumped onto the tracks of the TTC or GO, wouldn't it be better to tell us that is the reason the schedule's gone wonky? Isn't it more fair to have this common knowledge so that the person you're supposed to meet knows this to be the case? 

Michael and I are the same page. As much as Luke thinks I'm being provocative (not consciously in this case) I'm sort of just asking why not add suicides to the misery porn. Just now at supper I had the misfortune to have the TV tuned to CTV, and they gave my the 'breaking news' and helicopter p.o.v of 'another shooting!' I don't want to know about any of this stuff, but I think it's fair to say that suicides in some cases are something we have a right to know about.
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 18:44:23 PDT</pubDate>
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what a disgusting post. this is not news at all. is a person dying of cancer news? it sounds like you are just trying to be provocative and on some level you have succeeded = you have provoked me never to read this awful blog again. this site has really dumbed down writing anyway. i'll do my best to bad mouth it around town. ]]>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:53:39 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>JackatM2</title>
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many years ago, a female teen idol singer committed suicide in Japan due to an affair with her manager, it was widely reported, of course, due to her fame... many teenagers followed her and jumped off office buildings to kill themselves. It was insane.. ]]>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:35:02 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Michael</title>
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As a comment on sensationalism in the news, this article has a point.  Why should one type of human tragedy get more play than another.  But personally I'd rather not hear or see any sort on the news.  Fire, accidents, murders, fistfights.  These are the relm of sensationalist news reports on the commercial local channels.  It becomes so repetitive that each event becomes a non-event.  Its the pornography of human misery and I wont be apart of it.]]>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 13:21:13 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>blamb</title>
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<i>Is the TTC's reluctance to talk about the people who kill themselves on its tracks because they think it's morbid?</i>

Commiting suicide on the TTC can be potentially dangerous.  Several years ago, some of my friends were busking in a subway station and yanked someone off the tracks who tried to jump in front of a train, putting themselves at risk during the resuce. SImilar stories appear in the paper from time to time. 

Subway suicides can also be traumatic for witnesses and TTC staff. So yeah, reducing copycats is a good idea ...

... but maybe the TTC is TOO quiet.  maybe they need to be a little more vocal about how suicides and suicide attemtps on transit hurt others.]]>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 11:49:24 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Stevie</title>
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The point of not reporting it is to stop the copycats.  Whenever they report a suicide, suicide rates jump up as more and more people do it for the attention.]]>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 11:07:50 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>brokenengine</title>
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"In the news today, a man took his life over the DVP over pass onto the 401. In his letter, the man praised the nude jumper and thanked him for inspiring him to do what he's been thinking about doing for awhile now."

This is EXACTLY why they don't report it.  Suicide rates go up after a suicide is publicised.  It's sad, but there's a lot of people out there that just need that extra confidence of knowing that it CAN be done, and someone's done it, y'know?]]>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2005 10:42:14 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Timothy</title>
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Christine - the no ID thing is valid, but the Lord knows that I am the person that wants to hear that very last thing. 

I tried to point out that car wrecks and murders don't affect me in the least as a citizen in the city, since they aren't happening to me. But it seems to me that if the news wants to tell us about them, they could tell us about those who kill themselves as well. For you to say it's not your fight is fair enough, but the sort of callousness you're admiting to is part of the problem. 

It seems to me that people kill themselves because people have turned their backs to them. And for you to suggest it's all their fault because they haven't gotten the help that they need is a lot to suggest, since depressed people can barely feed themselves.  

I'd like to know what their problems are, what their notes read, and have some sense of how common or uncommon this is. I'd like to know why people are turning their backs to them in the first place. 

I think the argument here is: how does one decide what's newsworthy? I'm feel like 90% of what's regularly considered newsworthy is in fact not, and I'm saying that in my case, there's at least 1 audience member who thinks suicides are newsworthy.
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<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 23:42:17 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Christine</title>
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While a suicide may be news, it may not necessarily be news worthy.  If this nude jumper, indeed only had his birthday suit when he met his intended demise, chances are, he had no identificiation.

I also feel that the media has a responsibility to tell us what went on in the world/city ... that relates to us as its citizens.  A solo jumper or someone on the brink of suicide, as cold as it may sound, doesn't in the least affect me as a citizen living in the city. 

Sure it's sad, and I feel for whatever demons they're fighting, but it's not my fight.  It's theirs and if they can't bring themselves to get the help they need, there really is nothing I can do.

Lord knows the last thing someone wants to hear is the following report.

"In the news today, a man took his life over the DVP over pass onto the 401.  In his letter, the man praised the nude jumper and thanked him for inspiring him to do what he's been thinking about doing for awhile now."]]>
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<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 23:27:20 PDT</pubDate>
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