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<title>blogTO Recent Comments: Rogers: Now with More Bullshit (and Baseball)</title>
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<title>Prashanth</title>
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I think this was a bad choice on rogers part. first, about a year or two ago, they take away almost 30 something channels, and say you have to pay extra every month if you want it back, which probably led to a surge in cable stealing. Now they limit our downloading! i usually play multiplayer games for hours and hours, which use up almost all my bandwidth(which isnt much to begin with) and now, because of the dl limit, i have to limit how long i play. im probably gonna switch to something faster, and without a download/upload limit. im tired of roger's BS way rogers treats their customers.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2008/03/rogers_now_with_more_bullshit_and_baseball/#c300373</link>
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<category>Toronto, Tech</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:40:16 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>rogerswillcancel</title>
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Well, guess what?  After you hit the $25 maximum for your Rogers internet..you cannot download anymore.  I confirm this with a chat session with Rogers support.  You can still surf but can't download.   Oh well time to say goodbye to Rogers services.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2008/03/rogers_now_with_more_bullshit_and_baseball/#c298843</link>
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<category>Toronto, Tech</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:05:29 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Rogers Internet Service Bullshit</title>
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First off, for those that think because I can blow away the 60 GB cap easily that I share files.

Well guess what, I don't share squat!!

On my Mac I have 2 programs that use online storage & servers to accomplish data backup or recovery or in iDefrag's instance, defragment my drives.

This cap stuff is bullshit !]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2008/03/rogers_now_with_more_bullshit_and_baseball/#c287680</link>
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<category>Toronto, Tech</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 23:53:22 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>wally</title>
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Have dual boot. Use XP then in May I booted to Vista partition, first time since Nov. 70 MG of updates another 50 MG for addition updates mostly .net framework. Two weeks within the monthly limit my 2GB was reached. The other bits went to AVG virus scanner forced upgrade and auto daily updates. Did maybe 80 mgs in actual browsing. Rogers rise the limit !]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2008/03/rogers_now_with_more_bullshit_and_baseball/#c284428</link>
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<category>Toronto, Tech</category>
<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 01:27:24 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Robert</title>
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I got Ultra-Lite last month (April'08). Website said first month free, $20.00 thereafter. I Could not put my Postal code in Roger's popup textbox before allowing me to see offer and sign-up page. I then went to a Rogers outlet: they said they could give me the internet offer there.

One week later: Got first invoice, said I owe $5.95 for the free month, third page contact said I will be paying $27.95 each month.

Next surprise: I'm a programmer, at work we use terago tower to dish (kind of like the old 'LOOK' network). Ultra fast and reliable. At home I only need Roger's Ulta-Lite, However the new 2008 Visual Studio Help files I need at home can only be downloaded and weigh in at 2 GB.

That's my ultra-lite limit !!! Rogers must die, period!

Slaves to Rogers:
1. Bell in my subburb can only get 256K for highspeed (distance to hub).
2. Tarego only served businesses.

I May have to go to 'dry loop' throgh acanac at 256k but unlimit bandwidth.

Finally, I remember when going to school was up hill both ways. Actually I remember Compuserve at $200 a month on dial-up. Then dial-up prices fell big time. $30-$20-$8.

Is there a conspiracy on high-speed. They first said high-speed was expensive because of optic lines and other crap. (Northern Tel killed that theory).

If high-speed ran on the same model as dial-up's cost history. Utra-high speed should only be about $8 today. What gives?





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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2008/03/rogers_now_with_more_bullshit_and_baseball/#c283614</link>
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<category>Toronto, Tech</category>
<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 10:47:26 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Jack</title>
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i reached the shit limitation this morning that it notified me when i opened my internet browser. I feel so innocent because we, a housemate and me, share a internet service during the time we live together at a host's home. I'm using internet to surf internet, watch youtube, and online chatting. Quite rarely to download music or movies because i buy CDs and go to theaters. However, my housemate, a shit person, is not only playing online games, but also download TV series bundlly, never went to cinema for a film but grab from internet. We have been notified by the half of this month that we had used 75% allowance. How damn thing rogers just do! I ought to change the service or seperate from that shitted guy for a personal one.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2008/03/rogers_now_with_more_bullshit_and_baseball/#c279103</link>
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<category>Toronto, Tech</category>
<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:32:26 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Serb</title>
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Complain all you want, nobody cares.

I suggest a rather more effective way of dealing with this problem of capping (if it is a problem for you).

Call up Rogers Customer Relations (not the customer service, as they can't do jack all for you) - 1-888-936-7283, and tell them you're considering switching over to 3Web (and I'd seriously consider switching to www.get3web.com as they're Rogers resellers anyway but without all the b.s. limits and at half the cost of Rogers service!), and ask the agent on the phone to try and give you a price match. They can give you 20% savings right off the bat, but if you're nice you might get some more discounts. How I got a Lite service at a price of Ultra-Lite, just so I don't feel like I'm back on dial-up? That's how.

You don't like your cell phone bill being so high? Again, call the customer relations and ask them to lower it for you. They will, depending on who you talk, what time of the day, etc. Regular customer service reps still keep wondering how in the world do I have a phone plan that I do at a price I do when I call in for some trivial changes and stuff...]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2008/03/rogers_now_with_more_bullshit_and_baseball/#c278673</link>
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<category>Toronto, Tech</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:38:20 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>DC</title>
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Come on people. Cancel your ROGERS service and pick up a smaller company that does not have a cap. Otherwise this will be the norm. As file sizes and speeds get faster why are ISP's providing slower and more expensive service? 

This is just pure greed and you don't have to take it. I'm using a small company called ACANAC that has no cap and is much cheeper than ROGERS. There are many like it. 
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2008/03/rogers_now_with_more_bullshit_and_baseball/#c278672</link>
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<category>Toronto, Tech</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:35:47 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Jason</title>
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canceling my service this week.. rogers just made themselves look so bad.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2008/03/rogers_now_with_more_bullshit_and_baseball/#c278083</link>
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<category>Toronto, Tech</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:50:47 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Ted Rogers</title>
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MUAHAHAHA!!! I WIN!!!


This is like a few years ago when I added extra available channels without my television customers knowing. And when they clicked to the channel, I charged their asses for Pay Per View!!!

Sure, I got my ass handed in court, but I still earned a good buck!

I don't care about Voice IP. That's not technology progressing! It's my business getting eaten by competition.


I will keep technology from advancing, and will be the richest man in the world!!!]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2008/03/rogers_now_with_more_bullshit_and_baseball/#c277661</link>
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<category>Toronto, Tech</category>
<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:58:24 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>SickofBullshitInToronto</title>
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I guess now corporations are now the official (re)writers of word definitions in the dictionary.  For all you people griping about "they're hogging all the bandwith its not fair" and "people using more then reasonable" (specifically YOU Mike) you seem to forget what the word UNLIMITED means: no limit!  Next time look up the meaning in Websters instead of reading the fine print on your Rogers bill.  If you sell me an "unlimited plan" I expect to get what I pay for, re-defining "unlimited" by your corporate standards doesn't make it ok to stiff me, basically its a brash example of  misleading and misadvertising. Thanks and enjoy your TTC-less week.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2008/03/rogers_now_with_more_bullshit_and_baseball/#c276896</link>
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<category>Toronto, Tech</category>
<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:55:21 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Eric S. Smith</title>
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Traffic shaping of some kind will always be necessary to ensure quality of service for voice over IP.  As network congestion increases (and it's not like Rogers would have tons of extra capacity at any given time, so it's surely always congested) you have to prioritize time-sensitive traffic.  Excessive latency may harm your torrenting efficiency, but it'll break up a voice connection.

Now, rather than privileging time-sensitive traffic, it seems that ISPs like to stomp on torrents.  Easier to do, I guess, and it certainly favours the light users who happily pay for capacity that they don't consume.  But even heavy torrent users would probably prioritize a DNS lookup over a peer-to-peer packet, because when you click a link in your Web browser you do like it to actually respond.

As for the outrage that some people are expressing over having any limits ever, by analogy with television:  the Internet works differently.  If you and I are downloading the same file, whether that's a movie or a Web page, we each get a copy.  The server serves two copies, and the network flings two complete sets of packets (with the rare exception of IP multicast, a special case that wouldn't apply to you without your knowledge).  That's why popular Web pages are slow to load.  This is also why ISPs were rolling out Web proxies back in the late 90s (much to the annoyance of users when they turned out not to work as "transparently" as advertised).  And just like then, surprise:  the ISPs would be out of business if they actually had the capacity for everyone to be going full speed all the time.  Infrastructure costs money just sitting around, and even the phone company doesn't have the equipment to support everyone talking on the phone at once, though there are no caps on local calls mentioned in their literature or on your bill.  Dialup ISPs certainly never had the same number of modems and phone lines as they had users, or you'd have been paying, adjusted for inflation, $100/month for 14.4 kb/s.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2008/03/rogers_now_with_more_bullshit_and_baseball/#c276517</link>
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<category>Toronto, Tech</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:03:06 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>ripped_off_by_rogers</title>
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Rogers have lifted throttling torrents since they've introduced the 60gb limit. 

first they were throttling, now they want people to download as much as possible since you'll be paying per gig over their 60gb limit.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2008/03/rogers_now_with_more_bullshit_and_baseball/#c276195</link>
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<category>Toronto, Tech</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:33:18 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Jason</title>
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As for alternatives to Bell and Rogers, Teksavvy seems like one of the larger players for DSL internet. (You want "dry loop" which uses the copper wires to your house and a few bucks goes to Bell)

Also downgrade all those little features that pad your Roger's bill. For Roger's Home Phone, the default is 2 features. Downgrade to 1 or zero features and save $4-7/month. If you have a Roger's wireless, cancel voicemail and call display. Use calling cards or skype for long distance. Start texting.

Also, when i called to cancel home phone, they offered to drop the system access fee *forever* (it was recently raised). So, if you're thinking about cancelling, they might offer you a sweet deal.
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2008/03/rogers_now_with_more_bullshit_and_baseball/#c276153</link>
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<category>Toronto, Tech</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:43:39 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>mIKE</title>
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You know, instead of crying about it, cancel all your services.  That's what I did. ]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2008/03/rogers_now_with_more_bullshit_and_baseball/#c275734</link>
<guid>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2008/03/rogers_now_with_more_bullshit_and_baseball/#c275734</guid>
<category>Toronto, Tech</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:19:23 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>serotonin</title>
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Its all a lot of BS. For people just looking at webpages and email, your service is not dramatically impacted like they tell you it is, and just because that odd page doesn't load properly doesn't mean its all because of torrent downloaders. There are many factors that can impact why a specific page doesn't load.

Afterall, when I first switched from Rogers to Bell back in 1998, torrents (and even Napster) were not issues, and yet my service would drop out for days at at time. I ended up switching back to Rogers from Bell in 2000 when Bell's service would drop out for random hours. Somtimes, its just a penny-pinching greedy company trying to get the most revenue with the least expenses, even if that involves meeting current-day requirements of it's customers. ]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2008/03/rogers_now_with_more_bullshit_and_baseball/#c275434</link>
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<category>Toronto, Tech</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:55:49 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Justin</title>
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why give the tickets away? even for charity. We should have a public burning of them.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2008/03/rogers_now_with_more_bullshit_and_baseball/#c275194</link>
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<category>Toronto, Tech</category>
<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 01:09:19 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Jeremy</title>
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I would agree nothing is unlimited however I also have to agree that we were sold "unlimited". I don't recall the ads saying otherwise. No fine print anywhere saying "95gb limit per month". It is nothing more than a bait and switch tactic in the end. Torrents, bandwidth usage and monthly caps... is all just a bunch of BS. Instead of banning the very thing Rogers says is slowing they're network, they've simply made it so people will pay more. So now in some sense they are profiting from P2P. They are allowing it, they allow you up to a certain amount every month and anything beyond that you pay them extra for. Come on! This whole thing is a load of crap. Problem is Canadians love to whine and bitch about it until the hockey game comes on or dinner is ready - POOF! - All is forgetton. One solution is, and I agree with this as mentioned in another post, to write everyone with a complaint letter. Flood them. Draw attention to it and expose the deceptions in Rogers case. Do it! Do it now! The only thing that should need to happen on this webpage from here on out is for people to report back they've written complaint letters and to who.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2008/03/rogers_now_with_more_bullshit_and_baseball/#c274576</link>
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<category>Toronto, Tech</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:52:06 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Anonymous 2</title>
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i think this is a good alternative:
http://www.get3web.com/highspeed/highspeedMenu.jsp?page=hsindex

if you sign up you can find that they prepared a field for rogers users :)]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2008/03/rogers_now_with_more_bullshit_and_baseball/#c274531</link>
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<category>Toronto, Tech</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:07:57 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Que</title>
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I agree that marketing something as unlimited is wrong but the reality is, no resource or service is unlimited - there's no such thing. As bit torrent continues to gain popularity and is embraced by more and more "average" users, the problem is only going to get worse. Suggestions that ISPs should simply "deal with it" are absurd. While their ways of addressing these issues may not be perfect or popular, the issues themselves aren't "made up".

To those suggesting that large "legit" files can be downloaded and bit torrent is also for legitimate reasons, I say, "that's true". Rolling papers can be used for tobacco too.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2008/03/rogers_now_with_more_bullshit_and_baseball/#c274422</link>
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<category>Toronto, Tech</category>
<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:02:47 PDT</pubDate>
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