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<title>aaaaa</title>
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i love jet fuel. the regulars are all wonderful characters who are open minded, friendly, hilarious and insightful. the coffee is yummy, as are their lemon/ginger concoctions, and really cheap. they are usually playing amazing tunes, (preferably) super loud. 
and yea, if you go in expecting to be babied with a menu and an extremely tentitive barista.. you'll be disapointed. and rightly so because that sort of service is obnoxious. go have a good coffe, good conversation in a great neighborhood. quitchya bitchin folks.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com//2007/10/jet_fuel_coffee/#c697510</link>
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<category>Toronto, </category>
<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 14:28:36 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>johnny</title>
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All baristas have dirty finger nails; they work with coffee.  Most baristas have greasy hair because don't have time to shower before their 5AM bike ride to work.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com//2007/10/jet_fuel_coffee/#c680583</link>
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<category>Toronto, </category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:35:34 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>max</title>
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I've been a barista at various independent cafes for 7 years. 
I go to JetFuel because they are in my neighborhood and I don't like making my own coffee on my days off.
I know what to expect when I go in there.  Probably no one gives a sh*t about my order and probably I will get sassed.  
Like, I wouldn't ever sass anyone before they've had their first cup of coffee.
There is no grace, no customer service, no anything special above and beyond.
And that is why an americano is $2.
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<link>http://www.blogto.com//2007/10/jet_fuel_coffee/#c668518</link>
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<category>Toronto, </category>
<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:15:27 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Macs</title>
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Agreed with you Charles.  This thread is actually pretty hilarious to read - people are way, way too defensive.  Nastiness compromises credibility - as do postings riddled with spelling errors.

I went to JF again and I stand by my original post.  Stale beans, dirty barrista (I think it's the stoned one), dirty establishment.  Ordered a macchiato - was more like a latte.  But hey - it sure is cheap.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com//2007/10/jet_fuel_coffee/#c652335</link>
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<category>Toronto, </category>
<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 16:30:11 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>joss</title>
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Holy John I hope that you read all the comments...  You need to do some serious changes .]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com//2007/10/jet_fuel_coffee/#c652284</link>
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<category>Toronto, </category>
<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:13:43 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Not Fucked Up</title>
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Macs should go find a dick and suck on it. A tight little priss to stupid to realize that a few dirty glasses waiting for the dishwasher means that the place does not spew waste and paper all over the city. ]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com//2007/10/jet_fuel_coffee/#c651275</link>
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<category>Toronto, </category>
<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:30:54 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>oldhipsters are funny</title>
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Phone number doesn't work, and neither does the email address. Isn't this place gone? I could have sworn the whole block was recently demo'd.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com//2007/10/jet_fuel_coffee/#c649658</link>
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<category>Toronto, </category>
<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:31:50 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Arby</title>
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Te Aro is wonderful. The owner air roasts, which can produce weak coffee, by all accounts. I have been in there many times. The roaster has been experimenting with his roasting profiles with good results. (He's at the moment off to some special school or something having to do with roasting.) The first Americano I tried there was lifeless. They have improved greatly. The macchiatos, in my view, are your best bet here. The service is friendly and the veggie sandwhiches are good.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com//2007/10/jet_fuel_coffee/#c649527</link>
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<category>Toronto, </category>
<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:43:06 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>LH</title>
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I've live in the hood and have so for the past 15 years now and have only been to JF twice.  Both times the service was horrible.  Went in with a hi and a smile and stood there for about 5 minutes each time while the barista ignored us.  When she did acknowledge us, it wasn't with a "what can I get you" but with a hand on her hip as she just stared at us.  I don't care for Starbucks but I'm tickled pink they are in the hood as an alternative to JF.  Frankly, the couriers can keep JF to themselves.  Funny thing is, alot of people who live in the hood don't care for JF either.
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<link>http://www.blogto.com//2007/10/jet_fuel_coffee/#c649525</link>
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<category>Toronto, </category>
<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:40:30 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>LL</title>
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Okay coffee. Terrible service. Coffee bar staff, for the most part, are aloof and border on down-right rude with respect to their treatment of those who are not identified as 'regulars'.
If you want phenomenal coffee and friendly service to boot, head east to Leslieville. Mercury Espresso Bar and Te Aro are both great options.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com//2007/10/jet_fuel_coffee/#c649501</link>
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<category>Toronto, </category>
<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:54:58 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>megan</title>
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In response to the article, you know, instead of the comment feuding...

You mentioned how nice the barista was.  Given the picture you've included, you got the nicest barista who works there.  She's wonderful.

For some of the others what kind of service you get seems to be hit or miss and whether or not they're having a bad day.

But yeah, clearly people are passionate about how they feel about it.  Me, I understand the people who love it there (like me) and I understand the people who hate it there.  And I figure, live and let live.

I have no problem with people hating it, and find it perplexing that anyone would have a problem with me (or anyone else) loving it there.  

Might not be the best coffee in Toronto, but I'd sure be sad to see them go if they ever did.

And, I have been there many times when they have said 'we don't serve coffee' and I've only ever heard it as 'we don't serve coffee, is an americano okay?'.  Not in a snotty way.  So maybe they've changed their tune on this one?  And, yes, espresso is coffee, but if someone orders a coffee, generally they're talking about a brewed coffee, and may not want an americano.  Personally I'd rather be asked if it was actually what I wanted, rather than the assumption made that I'll just have an americano instead.

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<link>http://www.blogto.com//2007/10/jet_fuel_coffee/#c647973</link>
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<category>Toronto, </category>
<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 20:37:14 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Charles Marker</title>
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All the above comments are correct.  It is embarrassing that commenting people can be so rude, nasty and bitchy to each other.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com//2007/10/jet_fuel_coffee/#c647775</link>
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<category>Toronto, </category>
<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:42:25 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Arby</title>
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I very well remember my visit to Jet Fuel. A friend lived just up the street and went on about the place often. But it's probably all he knew. And that's okay, because if it does something for you, that's a plus.

I was with a different friend when I went in. (And I didn't know squat about culinary coffee at the time, even if I did love good coffee, which for me was Second Cup, which I still say makes good drip.) I had an Americano because I had no idea what else to order once I learned that I couldn't just have 'a coffee'. It was fine. The barista was fine, not overly cold and not overly friendly.

I am always happy to check out a new (for me) shop, whether it's one I end up liking or not. I don't get into trouble and my idea of a party is a paper in a coffee shop. I'm even more into exploring TO's coffee shops and restos now that I've got the desire to open my own coffee shop someday.

It's fun to find shops, like Bisogno, where the vibe is good and the owner is friendly and willing to talk shop with a stranger. But it takes all kinds. Some shop owners don't say much and give signs to you that they won't. Some shops are manned by baristas who gamely (it has to be hard work sometimes) try to be friendly and informative. And then there are those baristas who just look like they feel like they are in hell. They don't make you happy to be there. They kind of make you feel like you're a demon with a pitchfork, sticking them with it while they burn, even if you're a super nice person.

When I left Jet Fuel and started thinking about it, more, I realized I didn't like it at all. I have the impression, from reading here, that nothing's changed. Then again, in fairness, How often do you see change?  No matter how many times you go back to the cafe where the music's too loud, you will still find it too loud. If the tables wobble like hell, they always will. If the drinks are too cool, they will always be. The machine that isn't up to snuff will always be there. The broken toilet seat...

In TO, now, you've got lots to choose from in the way of culinary coffee. For me, That's a plus, not just because I might not have a lot in the way of cool (in a positive sense) shops in my hood, but because, as a single person without a life, I enjoy tripping around and checking these spots out. I've met lots of friendly folks that way and talked shop with a number of owners and others, a plus for me now that I'm interested in one day having my own shop.

I would say that Jet Fuel shouldn't expect support if they don't care. It sounds like they don't. I hate attitude. I like class. I care when others care. When they don't, I don't - with a vengeance. Takers stink.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com//2007/10/jet_fuel_coffee/#c647622</link>
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<category>Toronto, </category>
<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 05:20:46 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Dr Benway</title>
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Ahh... now I see the problem. You see it as a scene and it's a COFFEE SHOP! Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of regulars and there is definitely a bit of a "club" like feel. As another commenter had mentioned however, within like two trips you're in the club. Aside from the JetFuel Cycling Team - one of the most prolific and well known Canadian teams worldwide - and a smattering of messengers, most of that club is filled with Cabbagetown moms, local artists and toddlers now. To me, that speaks more of the old school Toronto "don't give a shit what you do or are into, so long as your down" attitude.

Unfortunately for you and your ilk, I am a dying breed. Because it was people like us who created all of the great things in this city the others have turned into vapid, lifeless passing fads and marketing shells of what they once were.

But don't you worry, at our current rate the city will be jammed full of homogenized big box stores and pseudo niche chains lining our SUV clogged streets and boulevards while everyone ignores each other to the throbbing rhythm of a million mall zombies texting each other needlessly.

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<link>http://www.blogto.com//2007/10/jet_fuel_coffee/#c647358</link>
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<category>Toronto, </category>
<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:14:39 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Pretentious and Overrated</title>
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Dr Benway,

What is so wrong about having high expectations and wanting to be served in a non-abusive manner. Isn't the customer always right?  The North American coffee scene has changed tremendously over the past ten years. People have traveled, been to places that define the independent coffee house. Therefore, their expectations are naturally going to he higher. I'm sorry but you sound like a dying breed. ]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com//2007/10/jet_fuel_coffee/#c646886</link>
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<category>Toronto, </category>
<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:33:29 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>DavidC</title>
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Unhappy, I would recommend 2 places in Toronto: Manic Coffee on College and Bathurst, and Crema Coffee on Dundas St W near Keele. They both serve excellent americanos and Clover brewed coffee, and the baristas are very knowledgable and helpful. However, I still find the Toronto coffee scene far behind Vancouver and Calgary. The way the locals rave over Jet Fuel, and the ignorance of the baristas makes me laugh.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com//2007/10/jet_fuel_coffee/#c646876</link>
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<category>Toronto, </category>
<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:12:48 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Dr Benway</title>
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To me, JetFuel reminds me of Queen W prior to McDonalds on the corner of Queen & Spadina. When the Blockbuster was the post office and there were no major retail chains that would even WANT to open in that neighbourhood. That's why my wife and dog go there everyday to meet up with our kind of people - not people who give a shit about what music you're listening too or what brand you're wearing... and too your point, don't really give a shit if you want to drink overpriced shitty half-caf double decaf, venti-mocha, frappa-who-gives-a-shit.

The only talk that happened in regards to Starbuck's opening amongst staff and regulars was basically this, "thank god. Now all those douchey wanks will stop bitching about not knowing what to order - in a COFFEE SHOP!"

You want good service, try not walking in with the attitude and expectations.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com//2007/10/jet_fuel_coffee/#c646870</link>
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<category>Toronto, </category>
<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:03:56 PDT</pubDate>
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Agreed with you Andrea P. They are a bunch of stupid f*cking spaced out morons. The sign is misleading. You should have responded to them by pointing out that espresso is also coffee :)]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com//2007/10/jet_fuel_coffee/#c646867</link>
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<category>Toronto, </category>
<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:58:49 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Pretentious and Overrated</title>
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Since when does being associated with bike couriers make the place hip? As far as I am concerned, they are low earning, drug addicted losers who, instead of bumming around Jet Fuel, should be looking for a real job. As far as the coffee, they only serve one kind: Espresso based drinks. I find the espresso to be OK, not great, it lacks the sharpness/smokiness that I am looking for. A great coffeehouse should serve freshly roasted, single origin, premium blend coffee and they do not. This place is way overrated and the people who rate it highly are simply pretentious and ignorant about coffee. Will Cafe Artigiano please come to Toronto!!!????]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com//2007/10/jet_fuel_coffee/#c646862</link>
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<category>Toronto, </category>
<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:52:56 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>joe</title>
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the place is really homey.  the service was friendly when i went, but i don't understand the latte.  it is literally 500ml of milk with a little coffee flavour.  if i wanted that, i'd get a double double.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com//2007/10/jet_fuel_coffee/#c646826</link>
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<category>Toronto, </category>
<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:00:15 PDT</pubDate>
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