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<title>blogTO Recent Comments: Virgin Forgoes the Cherry and gets its Pumpkin Smashed Instead</title>
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<title>DAGG</title>
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Oops-sorry about the double post]]>
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<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 02:42:53 PDT</pubDate>
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First of all, I am woman enough to admit that I was one of the asshole line cutters and I appologize to my fellow rockers. I am stupid and selfish sometimes. 

I gotta agree with the review of the Pumpkins. After the fifth or sixth guitar solo, all I could think was "it rocks, but where is 'Cherub Rock'?"

You obviously didn't see me in the crowd-My throat is still a little sore and I think I was getting carpel tunnel syndrome from all the air guitar playing I did to the Pumpkins. I could care less about other people dancing or not. I don't understand why more people weren't rocking, but whatever, I was having fun. The only band I have ever seen where the crowd truly went nuts was when I saw AC/DC play at Downsview Park in Toronto. There were about 500,000 people there that day and when they came on, the whole crowd went completely nuts to EVERY SONG.  It was awesome. ]]>
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<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 02:40:27 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>DAGG</title>
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First of all, I am woman enough to admit that I was one of the asshole line cutters and I appologize to my fellow rockers. I am stupid and selfish sometimes. 

I gotta agree with the review of the Pumpkins. After the fifth or sixth guitar solo, all I could think was "it rocks, but where is 'Cherub Rock'?"

You obviously didn't see me in the crowd-My throat is still a little sore and I think I was getting carpel tunnel syndrome from all the air guitar playing I did to the Pumpkins. I could care less about other people dancing or not. I don't understand why more people weren't rocking, but whatever, I was having fun. The only band I have ever seen where the crowd truly went nuts was when I saw AC/DC play at Downsview Park in Toronto. There were about 500,000 people there that day and when they came on, the whole crowd went completely nuts to EVERY SONG.  It was awesome. ]]>
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<category>Toronto, Music</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 02:39:09 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Ryan C</title>
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Incidentally, there was more life at my WEDDING RECEPTION than there was at the Virgin Music Festival. My name is linked to one of the many shots that prove this.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/music/2007/09/virgin_forgoes_the_cherry_and_gets_its_pumpkin_smashed_instead/#c224873</link>
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<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:08:09 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>shaemus</title>
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..ONE more thing...most IMPORTANT of all...if you just happen to be, as providence would have it, or chance for that matter (whatever you believe in) the delightfully pretty, dark haired girl, with the exquisitely soft, sweet, supple lips, that I gave a Super to (myself being the lad in the purple shirt)..say so here. I would like to add your name to the image, and sensation of you, in my memory.  ]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/music/2007/09/virgin_forgoes_the_cherry_and_gets_its_pumpkin_smashed_instead/#c224654</link>
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<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 05:14:03 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>shaemus</title>
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People, friends...the lack of reciprocal energy can be attributed to one significant factor amongst the array of minor contributing circumstances, one which has already been alluded to in this blog. That being the fact that Billy Boy chose to interrupt the high energy level created by banging out one, maybe two consecutive (at the most) high tempo, kick ass numbers, by meandering off into over extended, self indulgent,  M E L L O W  musical interludes / intermissions...yyaawwnnn. Am I right, or am I right ? Your damn straight I am. NEVER yawning at, or post event collective bitching about the ambient noise level of the Toronto crowd at any Tool, System Of A Down, Velvet Revolver / Alice In Chains, White Stripes, Pearl Jam, Chilli Peppers, Foo Fighters, or Korn (Family Values) concerts here in the big smoke. 

More importantly...WHO CARES...if nobody else around you is freaking out !? Just enjoy it yourself, in your way. If you are finding it enjoyable, do what you've got to do. What's the deal ? Need the confirmation of a communal safety blanket of mass approval in order to have your own good time? If the music is jacking me up, I couldn't fucking care less whether or not I am the only one  around me that is jumping, grooving, yelling, and screaming. For the record, and maybe this just happens to be because of the type of concerts that I gravitate to (see above), my experience is that Toronto crowds fucking ROCK THE HOUSE !! Hell, even at the Coldplay shows, the audience approval was deafening. Why the hell do (the proverbial) "you" think that TO happens to be thee favorite city for many huge acts ?!  
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<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 04:46:29 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Carly</title>
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TPC were on before Stars. The Pumpkins had 5 studio albums before their break-up, 6 if you count Machina II, and BWBW was the second song. That might have been what Jen was referring to.]]>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 23:47:08 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Laura</title>
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I too was disappointed with the lack of enthusiasm of the crowd... ]]>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:27:46 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>bathory</title>
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I agree about the crowds! I avoid forcing my way up to the front for concerts like this because if i'm going to be crammed in with a bunch of smelly jerks I want them to at least be having a good time! I'd much rather hang back where I have a bit more room to jump around and get a good view of the jumbotrons. 

It seems like the oldschool ravers, who occasionally drag their butts out to shows, are the only ones who actually let the performers/djs/whoever know that they are having a good time! 

Toronto is so apathetic about everything. Boo.]]>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:52:46 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Kari</title>
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I thought the crowd getting off the island was fairly civilized, compared to what it could've been. We were herded through like cattle, and we acquiesced. At one point, I thought I heard mooing, but it was actually the tired crowd booing at the fools who thought they were going to cut in line. I was proud of how nice we were to each other! LOL ]]>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:34:53 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Jerrold</title>
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I blame it all on global warming :P]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/music/2007/09/virgin_forgoes_the_cherry_and_gets_its_pumpkin_smashed_instead/#c224415</link>
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<category>Toronto, Music</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 07:19:20 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>J-rock</title>
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I have been hearing this "Toronto crowds suck" thing for years now, and it always confused me because although I haven't lived there for quite a while, I used to go to a lot of shows, and the crowds were always great. I've had my glasses broken, lost articles of clothing, and left venues with my clothes completely soaked through with sweat. Even the two Lollapaloozas I attended ('92 and '95) had lively audiences at both stages. What happened?]]>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 04:49:06 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Shawn</title>
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I concur to some extent. I was at the show yesterday, and I also felt a lack of energy. On the other hand there was tons put into pushing and shoving to get off the island! At the same time I have been to shows in TO where the energy level was incredible, my most memorable being Weezer at the freaken amphitheater. There were a lot of fans into the Explosions in the Sky set, but I guess the writer of this blog was too busy listening to Metric to be bothered. I must say I was really disappointed with the bass clipping happening at the future shop stage, I wanted to go smack the guys on the soundboards. There was enough headroom to take the levels down a little and do some justice to the music!]]>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 00:21:15 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>kl</title>
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Interpol was brilliant, but I do think that their dark, atmospheric vibe is better experienced in a smaller venue.  I think that's the problem. People were expecting to go nuts and smash stuff to their music, but simply put, it's not their style.

Metric did a decent job, but one song they performed off their upcoming album was awful. It sounded like a song you'd hear some girl pop star sing.

Regarding the crowd; just look at the band line-up for that day and it should be obvious!  Metric, Stars, and the Killers are not hard rockers compared to The Smashing Pumpkins. I mean, didn't anyone else find it funny that The Killers dressed up the stage with pretty floral arrangements, when the Smashing Pumpkins were up next. Makes you wonder how a conversation between Corgan and Flowers would've went; Corgan in his white outfit, and Flowers in his gold glitter blazer and make-up.

Plus, it didn't help that getting booze was so damned difficult.  Line up -> buy tickets (5 ticket max. at any one time) -> line up -> bag check -> line up -> get into beer garden/b-live tent -> line up -> max. 2 drinks per visit. Who has time for all of that AND see the bands? What a hassle!  ]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/music/2007/09/virgin_forgoes_the_cherry_and_gets_its_pumpkin_smashed_instead/#c224344</link>
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<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:59:52 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>shaemus</title>
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First time reader, first time blogger. Is it cool in Blogdom to stray from the beaten path ? 
Irregardless, my comment is related to the organizers of VFest, and their placement of the Main Stage Beer Garden. Specifically, why isn't, or couldn't, the designated MSBG area be along one side of the stage, and more importantly, in FRONT of the stage - as opposed to essentially behind, and to the direct side of the stage ?? At $6 dollars per can of (lousy) Budweiser beer, the thousand(s?) of fans living it up in here / there, are paying significantly more into the organizers coffers than (the apparent sleepwalkers making up) the lawn audience ! At   LEAST give us / those music, and party loving revelers the courtesy, respect, and gratitude (for alleviating our pockets of ALL of our hard earned cash) by simply pointing a  few concert speakers, and a third big screen directly at the MSBG side of the stage facing this indomitable group of rebel rousers.
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<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:03:03 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>ryan c</title>
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No need to worry about the ellipses, Kari. My head just exploded.]]>
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<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:47:13 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Kari</title>
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I liked the "rock jizz" (although it did go on a bit long, as do most guitar feedback solos). I felt it was classic early-90s Pumpkinese. I saw the Pumpkins 13 years ago at Lollapalooza '94 (did I just date myself or what?), and I must say, they were MUCH better this time around. They've had some practice, after all. The band was tight, and Corgan rocked as hard as he always has. I thoroughly enjoyed the show.   

About the listless crowd... I must admit, I had to sit for the Pumpkin's last couple songs (but not the very last one). I was just too damed tired! I was in the back though, not taking up valuable moshing space in front (which I agree- if you're not there to mosh, don't be in the mosh pit area). 

About Ryan's writing style (cause really, that's what the argument is about)... if you don't like it- don't read it. Ryan had shit to say, and he's got an outlet for his eloquent (but possibly long-winded, sometimes!) "rants". The beauty of blogTO is that a wide array of opinions get expressed... that's the point of any blog, isn't it?

(Sorry for my abuse of the ellipses... I can't help it!)]]>
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<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:41:38 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Carrie</title>
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Sounds like someone needs to move back to Montreal. :P]]>
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<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:07:35 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Jeremy Biron</title>
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There are some pretty intense underground shows that Toronto kids will go nuts over, but it has to be a right blend of friends, booze and solid underground music.check out formertransformer.com and you will know what I mean!]]>
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<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:11:58 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Christopher</title>
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One thing you might want to consider re: fans' listlessness is that at 80$ per day, you aren't getting a great cross section of fans. While probably worth it for the number of bands performing, a price that high is exclusionary to a lot of people -- including, I would say, a lot of people who might like to jump up and down.

Also, you mentioned that the last big concert you went to where people was summersault in 2000. I used to go to shows back then here in Toronto and remember quite a lot of moshing and jumping around. Maybe it's not just Toronto crowds be lame... maybe the moshers just got old (would be interesting to hear what the crowds at Osheaga were like this weekend).]]>
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<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:47:55 PDT</pubDate>
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