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<title>gemma</title>
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You gutless shills can't take the truth about how bad LF really is.  You won't print real comments about it.

FU]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/film/2007/08/cfc_and_nfb_debut_interactive_film/#c322622</link>
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<category>Toronto, Film</category>
<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:22:05 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>viewerto</title>
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wow! all of the people soooo ready to jump 
well I went to see the movie, and was touched, moved interested, and became a fragment of it... THAT is what the directors intended
the movie artistically does what a good movie and acting should, not everybody like or understand Cronnenberg but he IS a genius,
relax is just a film 
and SPEAK FOR YOURSELF!!!!!as all the people viewing it are
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<category>Toronto, Film</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:41:54 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>world-weary</title>
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Canada-schmanada. Nations are sooo over.
anyway,
This may not be the greatest of stories, and i agree the gun thing just turns me off. It's unfortunate that guns and violence fuel this kind of interaction.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/film/2007/08/cfc_and_nfb_debut_interactive_film/#c222399</link>
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<category>Toronto, Film</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:22:39 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>I don't know it all but I know enough.</title>
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As the National Post article, and indeeed one of the writer/director says: "If you do a linear movie, at the end some people are going to love it and some people are going to think it's a piece of shit, and it's the same with an interactive movie too. There's no real difference there."

Obviously we have two competing opinions right in this very blog! Hooray! ]]>
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<category>Toronto, Film</category>
<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:57:09 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>what_do_i_know</title>
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wow, a discussion. Well, i suppose hooray for Canada? That seems to be your point? Hooray that we actually didnt experiment at all but, rather, borrowed a model used in Denmark 4 years ago with a film called Switching? Yeah, its great that we put another story on the same skeleton that was about the way of the GUN and violence, those non-commerical and very Canadian ideas? That seems rather lame to me...maybe not to you? I dont think we should be celebrating that the NFB is actually stepping up and taking the reigns of something it should have been doing for the last 50 years. I certainly dont applaud my co-workers when they, on any given day, do the job they should actually be doing. Do you? And lets keep putting story aside if we must because we should certainly never judge anything artist or creative on its merits but only on its ideas.
As for the ceasless exploration of a DVD...look, there is absolutely NOTHING about late fragment that compels a user to "click" except that you can. It's not like clicking propels you forward in the narrative...time does, and that actually makes it pretty linear. And that brings us back to my point...it's derivative (even though its Canadian) its a gratuitous use of an already experimented with technology, and the real innovation should have occured in the writing...giving the user a real, unquenchable need to "click" in order to effect the story itself. Story is the experience...or are you suggesting that the experience is the story. Technology should never get in the way.
As for the whole Canadian vibe in your response...I guess I am one of those folks who consistently expects good things from our industry not the kind of person who is excited when it happens once in a blue moon. In the immutable words of the Superbad loving Perez Hilton..."Golf Claps"...indeed]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/film/2007/08/cfc_and_nfb_debut_interactive_film/#c221784</link>
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<category>Toronto, Film</category>
<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:16:58 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Do you know the film?</title>
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what_do_i_know:

From your response, I gather you've got something of a footing in the film and/or interactive media industry. A careful look at Late Fragment's narrative material aside, I'm just disappointed that you can't seem to see what the film could mean. When was the last time you saw the NFB take the reins on a million dollar interactive film? Sounds 'breakthrough' to me!

What kind of a future do you see for interactive artists/creatives (or filmmakers, if you'd like to be specific) in this country if after a first experiment in the form with major funding and support, you're willing to throw in the towel?

If you thought this film was too narratively simplistic... wouldn't it be great for EVERYONE concerned (audiences, creators, funders... hell, even theorists and armchair critics) if you went out and created something SUPERIOR? Genie Award winners don't complain when something amazing wins the following year!

Given that this is a first 'mainstream' go at the form in Canada, why be so negative about people having a positive reaction to a new and unique experience? Did you sit down for hours with Myst in 1993, all the while criticizing yourself for getting 'sucked in' by such an exhausting, repetitive and simplistic one-click interface? Of course not.

I didn't receive the impression that the film was about "doing something because the filmmakers could." If that was the case, it would have been a Flash minigame on some microsite: hit the troubled characters for points!

You criticize the story for being too simplistic, but wouldn't it have been a lot more simplistic if it had taken the form of any film parading through the Scotiabank Theatre on any given weekend? It certainly wasn't Superbad, it wasn't Jackass, it wasn't Robin Williams bumbling his way through another feel-good comedy. Wouldn't THAT have been the easy way out, not an attempt at a complex and richly interwoven drama of tortured souls and tangential existence?

I think the choices made about the narrative aspects of Late Fragment, specifics aside, were pretty ballsy... certainly NOT something randomly strung over an interactive framework to make it feel 'real.'

I think by criticizing the story, claiming it's something to distract us from the 'ceaseless exploration' of DVD tech, you're missing the point of an attempt at symbiosis, one that IS truly unique and inspiring - ESPECIALLY in Canada!

Not to draw delusions of grandeur, but... The Wizard of Oz hasn't turned out to be seen as a corny way to sell Technicolor. Prequels aside, Star Wars isn't thought of as a special effects extravaganza sold on the virtue of ho-hum narrative mythology. Vertov's Man with a Movie Camera WAS largely about experimenting with film aesthetics and form... but it was used to make a point about urbanization, Soviet society, the industrialization of experience.

Late Fragment may rank among those pinnacles of technological innovation in cinema... or it may not. But that's not really the point.

Looking at the story or technology on its own might be a misdirected idea - I think that the NFB and CFC making an attempt to look at the two in harmony is a brave step, and hopefully one that bold artists will continue to make. Why criticize people for trying?]]>
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<category>Toronto, Film</category>
<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 13:21:36 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Tim</title>
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What I saw I really liked. I didn't go to film school so perhaps I don't dissect films like some might, but I found the plot (the 40 minutes that I saw) to be well shot, well acted and intriguing, if not riveting at times.]]>
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<category>Toronto, Film</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:05:43 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>what_do_i_know</title>
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wow..."breaktrhough"? I had the opportunity to view the film and, I have to tell you, I thought it was a collosal wank. Set aside the "script" and "trajectories" (I am loathe to say story)and focus on one thing in particular in your review (which i think in terms of the points hits the nail on the head)and what you have is a technological experience not a filmic or story one. Lauding the ability to do something and doing it simply because you can is about as enjoyable as the film 300. And i am concerned about the technology informing the review of the film. The group meeting device was, gently here, lame and the first frame introduction of a GUN and the violence was so first year film school, I actually laughed aloud. Don't get me wrong...i think that there is a place for the subversive experiments of interactive cinema but this model...this ceaseless exploration of what a DVD player allows you to do, this complete and utter lack of a driving and compelling narrative...this 1.3 million dollar epic "non-linear" rout will ultimately adorn the trash heap of all the other failed experiences that anyone familiar with Gloriana Davenports "Hamlet on the Holodeck" will be well aware, just aint a winner. As for the script and "story"...I'll wait for the linear cut before i say a word.]]>
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<category>Toronto, Film</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 09:03:22 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>soprano</title>
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I have heard about this film and am going to see it during tiff. I don't know if I will love it or hate it, but am glad that the NFB is involved in a project like this.]]>
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<category>Toronto, Film</category>
<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 22:40:08 PDT</pubDate>
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