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<title>Janice Ashby</title>
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Sue the goverment for wrongful information injuring millions.
 
It's very easy and simple, but the people don't get it.  So why would this solution work????????
 
Whey they SAID we have the ANSWERS and the MONEY to solve ALL  the problems of the Transit Commission (even though Buses STILL use diesel and people still are choking from that air pollution), BUT "they"
forgot to just mention that the City of Toronto may be in jeopardy due to lack of funding, "THAT'S WRONG."
 
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/07/fix_me_can_you_read_the_signs/#c218328</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:50:32 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Janice Ashby</title>
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The last doctor told me my Pneumonia was on the right side of my body, .....
because he could hear it!  I just feel the congestion, vibrations from coughing, and soreness on the left side of my body.  He knew the answers!

I'am just having a ball, playing around with these situations like a four-year old intelligent creature, while people keep saying I can't do this, or that, or know this or that.

Janice.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/07/fix_me_can_you_read_the_signs/#c218326</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:48:30 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>thickslab</title>
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<i>A quick tally based on response in this thread:

Don't save the TTC signs = 10
Save the TTC signs = 1</i>

Which just goes to prove that people who have no clue about what they're talking about will vote for a stupid option.

Yes, the old signs will be removed. What's so difficult about preserving them at the ROM where Arthur's papers are, donating them to Paul Arthur's family, or giving them away to transit fans? Why throw them in the trash when they could be preserved as a piece of work of one of Canada's famous designers?]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/07/fix_me_can_you_read_the_signs/#c202202</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 09:49:39 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Jerrold</title>
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A quick tally based on response in this thread:

Don't save the TTC signs = 10
Save the TTC signs = 1]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/07/fix_me_can_you_read_the_signs/#c198627</link>
<guid>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/07/fix_me_can_you_read_the_signs/#c198627</guid>
<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 08:23:16 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>rek</title>
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I say if it gets us a system-wide signage scheme that works, go right ahead and "<b>remove <i>and destroy</i></b>" the old ones. The TTC is in a rather sorry state across the board, so if improving the signage is something they're actually willing to do I say let 'em. Yes, it may mean <b>removing <i>and destroying</i></b> some "priceless" arrangements of <i>tiles</i> but unless there's a museum or storage facility willing to take them, and money for the painstaking removal and reconstruction, go ahead and <b>remove <i>and destroy</i></b> them.

And one more time, because it's outrageous (-ly funny): <b>remove <i>and destroy</i></b>!]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/07/fix_me_can_you_read_the_signs/#c198616</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 07:43:18 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Joe Clark</title>
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uSkyscraper, believe it or not, I know that Informed People in the TTC realize that the 3D signs on (now very few) poles in the city are iconic and have a nice retro chic to them. They&#8217;re kind of hard to manufacture, though. My suspicion is if that problem can be worked out, we&#8217;ll be seeing more of them, instead of images of the TTC logo behind a screen, which is what Paul Arthur&#8217;s *and* the current TTC pylon signs have. (Though the Arthur redrawing of the logo should be put in place, I think.)

If you look really carefully at the planned Pape renos, those 3D logoboxes <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/joeclark/561434962/in/set-72157600383870501/">are going to be used</a>. This is a de facto acknowledgement that the current TTC pylon signs suck. Which they do. (And they don&#8217;t even match each other &#8211; compare Queen and Osgoode.)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joeclark/561434962/

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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/07/fix_me_can_you_read_the_signs/#c197910</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:13:04 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Joe Clark</title>
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Jeez, we&#8217;re talking about Electric Light Orchestra now? And I thought *I* had trouble maintaining concentration.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/07/fix_me_can_you_read_the_signs/#c197904</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:03:40 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>uSkyscraper</title>
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This is not the sign to be saving - the (a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/joeclark/448669485/">winged TTC logo signboxes on poles</a> are far more historical.  But seriously, whatever.  The tiles are also not worth the effort given that the original design was so lackluster.  Please don't hinder the TTC's weak attempt at progress - we only get such efforts once a decade around here.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/07/fix_me_can_you_read_the_signs/#c197903</link>
<guid>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/07/fix_me_can_you_read_the_signs/#c197903</guid>
<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:02:48 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Joe Clark</title>
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Special to john (lower case sic): The Paul Arthur system wasn&#8217;t &#8220;failed.&#8221; It was tested against the existing system and beat it for all groups tested. I have, and have read, the test results. You seem to be mistaking &#8220;intentionally unimplemented&#8221; for &#8220;failed.&#8221;

Oh, and Sam and Jonathan, you understand that it&#8217;s cheaper and easier to pull off four strips of fibreglass and keep them than to pull them off and destroy them, right?

Sure. Photos. Sure.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/07/fix_me_can_you_read_the_signs/#c197850</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:46:22 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Charles Blaqui?re</title>
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<nitpicky>

@Jonathan: "Signs" was never recorded by ELO. It was first made famous by Five Man Electrical Band.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/07/fix_me_can_you_read_the_signs/#c197832</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:32:31 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Misha</title>
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I carry a lot of nostalgia with many parts of cultural heritage in this city (ie: Sam's sign, keeping the City TV truck etc..), and I live by St. George subway station.  Personally, I don't see any point in keeping the St. George sign.  ]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/07/fix_me_can_you_read_the_signs/#c197799</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:49:59 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>brokenengine</title>
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I feel like I'm living an ELO song!
"Sign Sign, Everywhere a Sign..."]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/07/fix_me_can_you_read_the_signs/#c197744</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:02:16 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Jonathan</title>
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I support a system wide replacement, even if it means destruction of irreplaceable signage. I don't think any existing TTC signage has historical (or any cultural) value, including the Paul Arthur work. 

 All that being said, I think the cleanup process should be subject to public input with respect to what the finished stations will look like. 

I personally would like a more minimalist and uniform look to the stations.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/07/fix_me_can_you_read_the_signs/#c197658</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:03:27 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Sam</title>
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This is really getting ridiculous. Not everything needs to be saved, not everything is valuable. I think a photo is enough documentation for any kind of musuem piece. ]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/07/fix_me_can_you_read_the_signs/#c197657</link>
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<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:01:21 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Jerrold</title>
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Joe: I never said I didn't see the signs, so I'm not sure why you're tossing petty "poor vision" insults my way. I have seen them, I know what they are, and don't think they're worthy of saving.  ]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/07/fix_me_can_you_read_the_signs/#c197604</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:25:56 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>john</title>
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I'm not sure that a failed sign redesign from less than 20 years ago counts as a significant piece of "Toronto's history".  On the basis of his campaign website, Joe Clark seems overly obsessed with typefaces that the avg subway rider does not give a damn about.  So many TTC stations are decrepit and in need of serious upgrading, I suspect that the vast majority of citizens would gladly support the proposals.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/07/fix_me_can_you_read_the_signs/#c197575</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 09:55:09 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>rek</title>
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I'm sign-ed out for now. ]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/07/fix_me_can_you_read_the_signs/#c197181</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 02:12:37 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Rick</title>
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<i>"It's the Paul Arthur signs at St. George that are important, Rick"</i>

I'm aware of that, I wrote that in the article.
All I said was that I don't think I've ever seen those signs myself.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/07/fix_me_can_you_read_the_signs/#c197148</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 01:23:14 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Joe Clark</title>
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Matt and Jerrold, you must have really good vision. Surprise, not everybody does. Oh, and have you tried to read the maps on the overhead signs?

It's the Paul Arthur signs at St. George that are important, Rick and Digit. As there are no other copies, they are indeed "a historical item" as Digit defines it.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/07/fix_me_can_you_read_the_signs/#c197125</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 00:57:48 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Matt Lee</title>
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The new subway station signage (like those along the Sheppard line) are clear, succinct, and works just fine.  I don't understand why there is such a fuss about it.  The main purpose of wayfinding is to inform passengers, in a consistent manner, how to get from A to B.

In contrast, it should most certainly NOT be about historical significance, especially on something that wasn't widely implemented and embraced in the first place.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/07/fix_me_can_you_read_the_signs/#c197104</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 00:29:21 PDT</pubDate>
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