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<title>Chilali</title>
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Perfect work!.
I am from Republic and learning to read in English, tell me right I wrote the following sentence: "This not says him that you need your body, and that the track says to be otherwise fired before he reveals you."

Thank :D Chilali.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/environment/2007/06/toronto_company_has_electric_car_but_our_government_wont_let_them_sell_it/#c707800</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:01:41 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>HydroBadToo</title>
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 Our Canadian Government, (at ALL levels), are nothing but a bunch of "COWARDLY-American-Corporate-OIL-contolled-FREEDOM-Hating-COMMUNISTS"
-actually, that is insulting to true communisom/socialism.

 GM went bankrupt, now if only those greedy OIL besterds could just do the same.

 Lets not even talk about "Ontario Hydro" -geezus, now there's some greedy scam artists 'fer 'ya eh ?!!!

 OMG, I'm a terrorist, and didn't even know it ?

 The Electric Vehicle for any large Metropolitam area should have already been mass-produced decades ago !!!
sheeesh.]]>
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<category>Toronto, Environment</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:30:32 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Dan F</title>
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Ontario is currently paying large corperations to use up extra power so I don't think maxing out the grid will be an issue.]]>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:52:31 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Randy Mitchell</title>
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Unfortunately this car only goes a maximum speed of 40 km/h or 25 mph. My bicycle can go faster than this car. When the Government of Canada stops relying on Oil and Gas Tax dollars (it will be forced to in the future because there will be none left) then the only other choice will be nuclear, wind , geothermal and solar.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/environment/2007/06/toronto_company_has_electric_car_but_our_government_wont_let_them_sell_it/#c584369</link>
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<category>Toronto, Environment</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:50:18 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Bill</title>
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EV technology has been around for quite a long time...almost as long as the internal combustion engine. It isn't techology of the future....

Primary reasons why this technology hasn't been embraced and endorsed is simple. Money, power and greed. There have been countless companies, who concentrate solely on R&D of "efficient" automotive technology, who have invented fabulous means of reducing the cost of operating a motor vehicle (electric and fossil fuel powered).

Well, to make a long story short, money talks. And much of this technology is bought up by companies that are terrified of it. Think of it this way, lets say you invented lipstick. Would you want to develop a lipstick that would last 10 years or 2 months? There wouldn't be much of a profit if you sold one lipstick every 10 years. So, you would likely want to develop and market the lipstick that someone would buy every few months. This isn't news, most companies aren't manufacturing products that would last forever...plain and simple, it isn't profitable.

We have been dependant on oil for too long, the automotive industry is the backbone of much of the worlds economy. A drastic change in these two givens is almost unthinkable to many.

I would love nothing more than to see our highways full of EV's. But it's going to take our voices to make it happen. If we leave it up to our government to decide what is best for us, our country, our environment....the EV will likely never rule our streets and highways.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/environment/2007/06/toronto_company_has_electric_car_but_our_government_wont_let_them_sell_it/#c583948</link>
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<category>Toronto, Environment</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:05:21 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>dave</title>
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Electric cars are here and will only become stronger. Oil is slowly becoming something of the past. With the addition of wind and solar power and the enormaous threat and devastation we have created from the use of oil, Electric is here to stay. So to all you nay sayers, suck it up and read between the lines... and to the CEOs and the like, stop your bull, we are on to you and the internet is going to crack this wide open, not the press.  ]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/environment/2007/06/toronto_company_has_electric_car_but_our_government_wont_let_them_sell_it/#c532320</link>
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<category>Toronto, Environment</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 23:19:05 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Edgar Walkowsky</title>
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Who killed the electric car?
- Not the oil companies.
- Not the car companies.
- Not the government.

Who then? The dumb consumer who wants high speed and long range even though the average speed is 40KM/Hour and the average trip is less than 20KM.
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<category>Toronto, Environment</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:11:33 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>dave</title>
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You my friend are a shortsighted person...when you respond, let me guess....Im not your friend!   ]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/environment/2007/06/toronto_company_has_electric_car_but_our_government_wont_let_them_sell_it/#c481561</link>
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<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:16:34 PST</pubDate>
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<title>cangreen</title>
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States big auto company *Dodge* made electric cars in the 1990's, they looked like regular cars and could travel 80km hr or faster.  They chipped them all up after a trial lease. Only a few remain that have been disabled. The US government would not back California or the protesters to keep these cars in operation because that would be going agains the oil companies and the big auto dealers.]]>
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<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:52:42 PST</pubDate>
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<title>JimBob</title>
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"Some may balk at the fact that the car only goes a max of 40k... ...Why? Because that's the way the petroleum lobby wants it."

Uh, maybe you could actually find something to support this.  This comment doesn't even make sense.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/environment/2007/06/toronto_company_has_electric_car_but_our_government_wont_let_them_sell_it/#c371388</link>
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:47:28 PST</pubDate>
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<title>Bruce</title>
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Do we really want such an untested techology on Canadian roads? I think we should let the Americans test this first. Canadian consumers have voted with their wallets and shown they like gasoline engines and they like performance. Also in Canada we need heating most of the year that means all the heat from internal combustion engines is used not wasted. Electric cars need to be heated up using batteries that would use a lot of power. Lets just stick with gasoline for the time being and not get ahead of ourselves here!]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/environment/2007/06/toronto_company_has_electric_car_but_our_government_wont_let_them_sell_it/#c347908</link>
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<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 11:40:00 PST</pubDate>
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<title>karl</title>
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This is amazing and its Canadian, as a Canadian (torontonian) this makes me very proud. I have always thought that an electric car that could do 90 km per. hr. and would go 120 Km on a charge,would fit the bill for me. This would allow me to commute from Whitby to Scarb. and do some running around on a single charge, this has only 6 batteries in the car so I bet if a few more were added the car would make the cut for me. I know these guys can do it if Canada was not so uptight or too lazy to look at possibilities, Our provincial premiere is a coward and is too afraid to look at the possibilities, for he may actually have to work and earn his pay to get something like this available for Ontarians. I'm not sure but I think these are built in Toronto, I wonder if they do tour's of the plant that would be amazing to see how these are built.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/environment/2007/06/toronto_company_has_electric_car_but_our_government_wont_let_them_sell_it/#c337793</link>
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<category>Toronto, Environment</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 09:49:49 PST</pubDate>
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<title>Steve from Ottawa</title>
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Just a few comments, as an electrical engineer and a former employee of Ontario Hydro NGD I know a little bit about electricity and cannot wait to change my transportation to all electric.

Lets start with few facts, Ontario hydro needs about 30GWattts of electricity at peak period during the day.  Since nuclear costs are fixed, mostly the mortgage on the power plant, they use it first, (base load)  its covers about 10GWatts(3.3GWatts per station Darlingtone, Pickering and Bruce) next is hydro.  Hydro (water falls) produces about 6GWatts, and yes they do turn the falls down at night.  The remainder is produced by coal, deisel or purchased from New York state because the cost is directly porpotional to the amount of electricity produced.  However Ontario hydro is adding wind turbines and more hydro electric units all the time with the goal of reducing their carbon footprint.

Now to LSV (low speed vehicles)  In the US there was a drive to build LSV's to be used in gated communities, ussually retirement homes.  These cars were souped up golf carts, doors, windows, CD player etc.  They were called NEV's.  With the energy crisis some people, me included, thought!! what if everyone in a city used these type of vehicles, we would drive slower to work, although at rush hour probably not much, and there would be no emissions.  The problem is that a typical car has to protect the passengers during a collision at highway speeds to be licenced on our roads.  AND LSV's cannot pass these tests, no air bags, crumple zones etc.
So in the US they made a separate set of rules for LSV's, simply put, they must have seatbelts, wipers, lights, and heater(defogger).
They are also limited to 25mph and cannot go on roads with speed limits above 25mph.  The problem is not being injured by a collision with an LSV it is surviving inside an LSV when you get hit by a Chrysler SUV(light tank).  In canada the federal government approved the certification of LSV's last year so manufactures can build LSV's and get them certified by the federal government.  However motor vehicle licencing falls to the provinces.  BC adopted the licencing of LSV's last year, the tree huggers they are, and Ontario has just done it this month. 

The LSV's efficiency is not only due to the electric motor, it is due to its light weight, small size and slower speed.  Most of them seat 2 however there are 4 seater models, so they are the perfect communter vehicle.
 
As to conspiricy, well LSV's will need dealerships around the province for servicing, and they will most likely come from the big automakers so if this idea takes off they will be in like a dirty shirt.  As to the oil companies, we use oil for a lot more then just gasoline, actually the tar sands produce heavy crude which is not used to make gasoline. 

To fully roll out LSV's we need to think differntly about how we get around our cities.  We need to move the large high speed vehicles like trucks, SUV's etc. to intercity roads and highways, leaving it safe for intra-city LSV travel.  This way when people are communting around the city they use only LSV's, zero emissions, they travel slower which is safer for pedestrians, and they park smaller, less wasted space for parking lots.  When they want to go out of the city we either rent gas cars or take public transit to the next city.  It doesn't solve the farmers travel challenges, however, for 95% of the population; safer and cleaner. 

For city commuters I think LSV's will be the way of the future, the fall of the big three automakers is a small indication that we as a society recognize that big heavy vehicles are just too hard on the planet, notwithstanding our pocketbooks.  SUV's with one person commuting to work are just not sustainable and as we move to smaller cars, not safe.  Just this weekend a family was killed in Ottawa when they collided with an SUV.  The SUV occupants where not injured, the other smaller car was destroyed and the occupants killed, had they both been in LSV's they would have been going slower and perhaps all would have lived.

Steve]]>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:17:06 PST</pubDate>
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<title>Jeff</title>
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what if i charge the car using a solar panel set-up?  For all thye coal burnering comaplainers.  I think to put electric cars on the roads even provided by coal burning would be a step in the right direction.  Do you even know where your power comes from anyways?]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/environment/2007/06/toronto_company_has_electric_car_but_our_government_wont_let_them_sell_it/#c323173</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:50:48 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>T.Sanford</title>
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We keep seeing this comment that electricity is produced by burning coal! And that therefore the use of an electric car is not viable ecologically.
Consumers in the two most heavily populated provinces of Canada seem to be unaware that much of the electricity used in Quebec and Ontario and in fact also sold onwards to New York State etc. is produced by hydro power at Churchill Falls Labrador and James Bay etc. 
Not only that but further massive potential will be available now that the 'Lower Churchill' is being developed under the management of Newfoundland-Labrador Hydro! During next few years.
Right now electric power generated in Labrador etc. is transmitted via Quebec and being used in the northern USA. So to argue that all electrcity is coal fired is innacurate in the extreme.
In fact those of us living on the island portion of the province of Newfoundland are not connected to the mainland electricity grid at all and most of the elctricicity used on the island is generated by water power; with the addition of small percentage by the burning of bunker C at the one and only thermal generating plant to meet peak heating requirments during very cold weather. Except at those times the thermal plant is shut down or is just standing by. 
Pleas noee the innaccuracy and negativity of 'the burning of coal argument'!]]>
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<category>Toronto, Environment</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:20:03 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>tony</title>
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why is it we can not buy this car in canada?? can someone in the gov explane??? why do they want us to go green but stop us from doing so.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/environment/2007/06/toronto_company_has_electric_car_but_our_government_wont_let_them_sell_it/#c304240</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:06:35 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>gordon muma</title>
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I would like to know what asshole would not allow the sale of this vehicle.  In light of the current pollution threat we are all facing, I would like to think that the people WE elected to the elite position of running our county would have a tad more sense and embrace alternative power with both hands.  One more reason to move to a country that wants to work towards cleaner air]]>
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<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:38:31 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>barria</title>
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The majority of our power in Ontario comes from nuclear not from coal, which is better in the emission department, for now (Not sure what to do with the nuclear waste).  Taking emissions from the tailpipe to the generator station at least gives us a better chance to find solutions.  

Our emission producing life style in North America isn't going to be a quick fix; it's going to take changes in many areas of our life.  For example, the utility infrastructure will have to be upgraded substantially if everyone changed to electric vehicles.  Also, what do we do with the waste batteries from the influx of electric vehicles?  Recycling is costly, and you can guess who will be picking up that bill.

The problems are few though, compared to keeping our regular vehicles on the road.  Sounds cool bbut looks dumb.]]>
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<category>Toronto, Environment</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:23:45 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Some dude</title>
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If this car can go 120kph and have a charge that lasts at least a few hundred kilometers then I'd definitely buy it.  Otherwise, it's only good for short distance city driving which is what motorscooters already do better and cheaper.]]>
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<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:11:39 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Jeff Cyr</title>
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I would just like to point out to anyone who is saying that it is not a "zero" emission vehicle, that there actually is some solid truth to the zero emission claim. As of right now our power grid meets demand during the day, and over produces during the evening. So if these cars are generally powered overnight then we would be able to power somewhere arounf 85% of the nations automobiles without increasing energy production.

Regarding the "conspiracy" claims I think that there is some legitimacy in them as well. Obviously most of the worlds largest global corporations (those being both car companies and oil companies) will see less money made if these cars hit the market. Obviously the oil companies fear 2/3 of their revenues being eaten away by electric cars, and car companies will make less money off of electric cars because they are a simpler vehicle and would not require as much maintenance, etc.

So far as speed and charge time goes, that could have been better developed by now, had more emphasis been put on further developing the electric car. Even as we speak governments and auto companies are putting more emphasis on developing hydrogen fuel cells, which is mainly to serve as a distraction so that they can still continue to reap large profits on gasoline burning cars which their factories are outfitted to produce. The facts about hydrogen are that it is not a source of energy, it is energy storage, meaning that we have to produce energy to conduct water electrolysis and create hydrogen. It only is about 25% efficient so to develop it you would need 4 times as many power generating stations. It is also hard to store and transport.

Most projections are saying that we are either going through peak oil , or are going to be approaching it soon and a hydrogen economy is not going to be very efficient. We need to move towards an electric economy. This is actually the easiest transition for our society to make, and it would also drastic reduce the power and influence of those big nasty oil companies. Electric cars are the way to go!]]>
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<category>Toronto, Environment</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:57:11 PDT</pubDate>
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