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<title>alanbbc</title>
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Oh, Thanks! Really interesting. Big ups!]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/05/motorist_vs_cyclist_the_eternal_struggle_caught_on_tape/#c300281</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:48:55 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Matt</title>
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Did you just Morisette my use of irony? :)]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/05/motorist_vs_cyclist_the_eternal_struggle_caught_on_tape/#c163185</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 08:50:23 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>david</title>
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Comment reads: "The Ursula Franklin students, who were at Queen and Bay on a field trip (ironically, one dedicated... "   ...What exactly is ironic?  Seems more fitting, or coincidental to me.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/05/motorist_vs_cyclist_the_eternal_struggle_caught_on_tape/#c162110</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 10:55:36 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Gloria</title>
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"Even" taking the TTC? Definitely especially taking the TTC! Oy. It's a mystery why we don't have "transit rage" more often. ]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/05/motorist_vs_cyclist_the_eternal_struggle_caught_on_tape/#c153797</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 11:29:35 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>shira</title>
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I'm back biking after my usual winter hiatus - and so the dangers of the road are a little more obvious...I agree with Karr - not being specific to the case above, but generally, motorists, cyclists AND pedestrians can all share responsibility for dangerous actions and habits. Cyclists not signalling, passing me without dinging their bell, cutting me off and cycling on the wrong side of the road are the biggies, also pedestrians walking out without looking and motorists who are obviously in a big hurry, or who block bike lanes forcing me into traffic. Generally, I think if you (motorists, especially but also some cyclists) are in a huge rush  - don't drive in the city or leave your house earlier. City living involves patience - whether your driving, biking or even taking the TTC. Motorists - if you don't want to share the road with others - move to a small town. Cyclists - a little consideration on a bike goes a long way with fellow cyclists and motorists. Now will the city please hurry and finish the Dundas work so all the motorists and cyclists aren't squished onto College St?
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/05/motorist_vs_cyclist_the_eternal_struggle_caught_on_tape/#c151093</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 14:03:35 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Karr</title>
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First, it was not OK for the this driver to attack the cyclist. I drive every day, and I see all kinds of bad drivers, real jerks.  But, the cyclists in this city are real ass**ls, 90% of them . Let me tell you, cyclists do not respect traffic rules. They don't signal, they run like crazy between cars, without warning they jump on sidewalk, then back on the road, the on a crosswalk. Even worse, cyclists frequently, and I mean VERY frequently, don't obey red lights, nor stop signs, nor all way stop. They go in the opposite directions on the road. During the night many of them don't have ANY lights on their bikes. So, don't tell me the crap about the road rage. Cyclists need to be thought a lesson, a BIG ONE, in any way possible.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/05/motorist_vs_cyclist_the_eternal_struggle_caught_on_tape/#c151018</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 11:43:27 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>John</title>
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Ryan, you goof, the driver was the aggressor when he got out of his car and came after the cyclist. Some nut shouting and coming after you and you expect him to not do anything?]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/05/motorist_vs_cyclist_the_eternal_struggle_caught_on_tape/#c148369</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 13:33:38 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Steve</title>
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To add to my above post...let's take this incident a step further hypothetically, public street, public sidewalk, an elderly person, or a child walking down the street and ends up in the middle of this or gets shoved into a picture window or another passing vehicle? One more thing to be thankful that there wasn't any "collateral damage" because this moron ex-pig decided it was HIS day to own the road.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/05/motorist_vs_cyclist_the_eternal_struggle_caught_on_tape/#c148361</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 13:25:29 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Matt</title>
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I'm curious, "Me" (if that is your real name), how on earth would you possibly justify claiming that schoolkids doing a video project represents a contravention of the  driver/criminal's rights?]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/05/motorist_vs_cyclist_the_eternal_struggle_caught_on_tape/#c148354</link>
<guid>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/05/motorist_vs_cyclist_the_eternal_struggle_caught_on_tape/#c148354</guid>
<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 13:20:11 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Steve</title>
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Ultimately, you could break this down and simply ask yourself this...of these two guys who are out and about in the public, which one would you feel safer around?
If you mistakingly moved in front of one of them in line at say a coffeeshop or restaurant...with which one do you think you'd have a better chance of it NOT turning into some kind of confrontation?
The cyclist who didn't even fight back, or an ex-cop who gets out of his car and starts wailin' on a cyclist, who doesn't fight back.
The public can at least be thankful this ex-cop has yet again exposed his aggressive nature and been caught so that maybe something can be done. Because if it wasn't this cyclist, it would've been someone else, somewhere else at some other time...basically, this poor cyclist took one for the team (and he handled himself quite well).
The ex-cop may be thankful that the cyclist wasn't a black-belt or carrying a knife or a gun.
We can also be thankful that this was caught on tape and this problem of 2 Wheels v. 4 Wheels can get more attention. We all have someplace to go, and we're all just tryin' to get there.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/05/motorist_vs_cyclist_the_eternal_struggle_caught_on_tape/#c148351</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 13:17:39 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Fred</title>
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Know an asshole? See sendahole.com]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/05/motorist_vs_cyclist_the_eternal_struggle_caught_on_tape/#c148317</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 11:29:07 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Citizens of Metropolis</title>
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Good God, I'd swear some people here are at best mildly retarded and at worst Certifiable Queen Street residents; sort of like our Official fucking nutjob in question Darius 'Right Hook' Tierman. 

There is no proof whatsoever the cyclist was going to "cause thousands of dollars of damage" - and even so, this line of arguement is so laughably ridiculous as an excuse for such incendiary violence I don't know whether to laugh or cry that some people honestly believe it, and the sad state of affairs it reveals society to have arrived at. There is no mention from the SEVERAL onlookers that he "kicked his car", threatened him first, or whatever crazy scenarios being conjured up here to justify this assclown's behaviour. Damn right I'd lift up my bike as a defense against some maniac charging towards me too. 

How INCREDIBLY lucky this so called "officer" was that he happened upon one of the TINY HANDFUL of guys in this city that wouldn't have kicked the holy living shit out of him, and handed his ass back to him by putting him squarely in a hospital bed. 
I commend this man, (who by the way looks big enough to have possibly done so) for following the rule of law, showing OTHERWORLDLY restraint, and his exemplary good nature even afterwards. 

Considering what some of these people are up to, maybe our tax dollars should be used not so much for adding more cops to the force, but for getting more of the fucking crazy ones off of it. Not that that helped this guy from loosing a few teeth.

C.O.M. in the T dot O.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/05/motorist_vs_cyclist_the_eternal_struggle_caught_on_tape/#c148314</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 11:24:40 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Steve</title>
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driver/cop=dickhead.  That's it, there's no debate here...he got out of his car and attacked this man who was guilty of nothing more than OBEYING the traffic rules.

If it wasn't this cyclist, this creep would've just unleashed on someone else at some other point in time. Note to car owners/drivers....YOU DO NOT OWN THE ROAD. By attacking this cyclist, the driver is basically saying, how dare a guy on a bicycle get in MY way on MY time on MY road when he should know I am way more important than he is. After getting punched, I would'e loved to have seen the cyclist put this a-hole on his ass.
Car drivers should hope cyclists don't start packing guns.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/05/motorist_vs_cyclist_the_eternal_struggle_caught_on_tape/#c148288</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 09:13:15 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Me</title>
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Just what we need. Cameras everywhere. People are idiots! Go ahead, take away all our freedom and basic rights. You all who are for camera's will see. ]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/05/motorist_vs_cyclist_the_eternal_struggle_caught_on_tape/#c148284</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 08:27:40 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Tuco</title>
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For my two cents, I think it definitely looks like the cyclist was at least "threatening" to throw his car onto the guy's hood.

That doesn't, of course, merit a punch to the face and losing a tooth.

So a cop with "RAGE" issues assaults a cyclist who rightly stopped at a yellow light - what kind of sentence will he get? Hmmm... that drunk driving cop who hit a pedestrian back in December and fled the scene, lied about how he'd damaged his car, and only turned himself in when other cops were on to him, got house arrest and community service.

So - can we assume that that means this cop will get a pat on the back and a "well done!"]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/05/motorist_vs_cyclist_the_eternal_struggle_caught_on_tape/#c148280</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 08:25:13 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>crabby hoo</title>
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wow---so he turns out to be a cop.  here's hoping Tierman goes down hard.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/05/motorist_vs_cyclist_the_eternal_struggle_caught_on_tape/#c148123</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 00:52:59 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Sam i am</title>
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Not only is the guy a cop but he's on three years leave for beating someone up. Darius Tierman is also seeing a psychiatrist about his anger problems.

Why is this guy still a cop...It's Toronto, why ask.

Has he been collecting his salary while on  leave...it's Toronto, so YES.

Will this guy still be a cop after his criminal conviction...it's Toronto, so Yes.

'Toronto, Where the Criminals Where Badges']]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/05/motorist_vs_cyclist_the_eternal_struggle_caught_on_tape/#c148105</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 23:54:21 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>hamish wilson</title>
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Some less healthy people commenting too!
Maybe we shouldn't let males drive until they're 30 or have kids. Prejudiced? yup.
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/05/motorist_vs_cyclist_the_eternal_struggle_caught_on_tape/#c148100</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 23:28:58 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Bradford Hovinen</title>
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Matt,

You mean to say that bicycles are vehicles, not "motor vehicles." Most bicycles don't have motors :-)

But I second the comment. I have many times experienced cases where a motorist got extremely angry because I, on a bicycle, was blocking him or her when a another motorist in exactly the same position would have caused exactly the same delay and not have been treated in this way. Somehow many motorists in this city (indeed, in North America) feel that, despite their legal status, bicycles are not "legitimate" vehicles and so cyclists need not be afforded the same basic respect usually afforded to fellow motorists. It frankly makes me sick.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/05/motorist_vs_cyclist_the_eternal_struggle_caught_on_tape/#c148083</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 22:40:05 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Matt</title>
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Wow. A late-act plot twist!!]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2007/05/motorist_vs_cyclist_the_eternal_struggle_caught_on_tape/#c147947</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 17:53:07 PDT</pubDate>
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