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<title>blogTO Recent Comments: With Net Neutrality, Confusion Still Prevails</title>
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<title>Michael</title>
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Well put.]]>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:20:12 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Observant Norm</title>
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It looks like someone in the audience has a golf ball stuck in their throat...and the table cloths look like ghosts. Just sayin...]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2009/06/with_net_neutrality_confusion_still_prevails/#c617558</link>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:24:39 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>chops</title>
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Can we focus on the real issue here? WHY ARE THE TABLES WRAPPED IN GIANT NAPKINS???!?!??!]]>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:32:34 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>keven</title>
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>My job isn't to please you, but to write what I see.

And yet, here you are on the internet, writing for an audience.  
If you only write for yourself, shouldn't you just have a heart-shaped, key-lock diary and call it a day?

I'm not asking to be pleased by anything I read, in fact quite the opposite.  I want to be engaged.  If the article gets me engaged either way, it's done it's job.  Your article on the other hand only provoked the kind of passion that has been stewing in my blood for the 10+ years I've worked as a web professional.  Another brick in the (sexist ideals of socially inept idiots with a bSC) wall.  

I find nothing engaging about this article.  It lends no real information on the subject, you merely took minutes at a meeting.  I have monkeys for that.  Thank you very much.]]>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:21:35 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>shikotee</title>
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re: socialite

Sorry for the crappy terminology use.
Reality is that I do not know much about either of you, as is the case for most people who are cutting you up. Impressions are hard things to shake....




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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2009/06/with_net_neutrality_confusion_still_prevails/#c617409</link>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:07:03 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Matthew@BlogTO</title>
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This article was originally much longer, but was cut down for the sake of flow. Not only do I not mention anything about Derek of CUPE, but I also mention nothing of Steve Anderson of Save Our Net, and a number of other personalities who were also in attendance. Derek was not the only one to say very little - many others failed to as well. If I were to mention everyone who failed to participate, and who was billed as part of the evening, I'd have quite the long, winding article, wouldn't I? Raymi and Sass talked a fair amount, and therefore were the best example of my point. Note how I say "best" and not "only".

You may do what you wish. I'll continue writing, and have fun doing it. My job isn't to please you, but to write what I see. Let it be known, though, that I'm incredibly disappointed that this discussion has taken this sort of turn, to the extent that it's being considered some sort of nerd war or attack.]]>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:59:25 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>shikotee</title>
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Fair enough!! 
Your article in itself wasn't so much of attack, but it certainly helped lay the track for the comments.

My bias comes from attending the event, and while I initially felt a slight cringe about Raymi and Sass' inclusion, I ended up coming to believe that it was a brilliant move. They got me to think about many different things, from various fresh perspectives.

From my perspective, I was already well versed with the specifics of the problem of Net Neutrality, so I did not need in depth discussion. It scares the shit out of me! Yet when I discuss the matter with my non-tech friends, all I do is bore them to tears, and I come across as a nutter! We need to find a way to get this issue to become mainstream, and as Sass and Raymi suggested, we really need to dumb it down.]]>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:55:39 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>keven</title>
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So just out of curiosity why was there no disdain towards the CUPE (male) guy?

Did he even say ANYTHING?  CUPE?  F'N SERIOUS?  How are they relevant at ALL?  He's a staff rep.  He negotiates labour contracts for a living. 

You say you're job is to question things, but you didn't think to question his presence (or lack thereof).  You either asked the wrong questions or didn't think of these glaring questions yourself.  In my world we called that FAILURE TO QA.  

My wife and I read this blog all the time, as we're not journalists, you won't have to worry about us "questioning" whether or not to read anymore tripe written by you.  I hope others follow until you find yourself "questioning" your mistakes here.

Anyhow, this is so ridiculous.  flaming people on the internet who are trying to help save it.

God, I almost hope you all get pushed back to 28.8k f'n modems]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2009/06/with_net_neutrality_confusion_still_prevails/#c617398</link>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:44:25 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Matthew@BlogTO</title>
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Gearing...an attack? Really? I would hardly consider one sentence in an 800 word article an attack.

@Facebook User Michael, questioning things is part of my job as a writer and journalist. I'm actually a little offended at being grouped into some elitist tech/nerd crowd. There's no attack on Raymi or Sass' character here, simply an observation that, in a discussion that was publicized and organized by people involved in  hearings with the CRTC, the conversation seemed to fall a little short.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2009/06/with_net_neutrality_confusion_still_prevails/#c617377</link>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:00:29 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>raymi</title>
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if leaving my apartment a few times a week classes me as a socialite that is hilarious.]]>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:49:20 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>shikotee</title>
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Sorry BlogTO, but gearing an attack against the ladies is idiotic.

I'm not a fan of the socialite scene, but I was able to move beyond that. Net Neutrality is an issue that will effect EVERYONE who uses the internet. We need to work together, and not defecate all over each other like a bunch of primates.

For more posts/discussion on the evening, check out DSLreports:
http://tinyurl.com/navx6s]]>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:47:58 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Michael</title>
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I just wanted to thank Sass and Raymi for their input on the panel.

Working in the tech community, I know that there are people who have a overly elitist attitude, unfortunately it's it coming through in this discussion. It's unfortunate that this seems to become the focus of these comments here, rather than the actual topic at hand.

Also, I don't see a need for the published article to question the relevance of any of the people on the panel - isn't this a news site? The editors and writers of BlogTO should be thanking Raymi and Sass for representing THEM at this discussion.]]>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:25:18 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Elle Driver</title>
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Speaking of intelligent female tech bloggers: I guess Amber MacArthur was unavailable? Too bad.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2009/06/with_net_neutrality_confusion_still_prevails/#c617297</link>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:24:12 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>keven</title>
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apparently if you were a male that works as a staff rep for CUPE (without a web page or presence I might add) you'd be fine too.

loads of bs]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2009/06/with_net_neutrality_confusion_still_prevails/#c617291</link>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:18:07 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>keven</title>
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Like the guy from CUPE who nobody flamed?  Why the gender bias then?

"vapid wannabe WEB celebs"... 

...WEB.  You do know that they have that on the internet nowadays right?  The same internet that is being discussed?  Or is there a new internet that I missed somewhere?

You know it's a good thing to not have a 100% internet geek panel... 

...Rounded opinion and all that :P  Geeks aren't the only ones using/building/influencing the internet.  In fact, in today's day and age, they are most likely a huge minority.

oh and lol @ Sean]]>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:06:17 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>raymi</title>
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if we were male tech bloggers this would have been a non-issue. i think it's great that all focus is being directed at us instead of this important issue. ]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2009/06/with_net_neutrality_confusion_still_prevails/#c617280</link>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:58:57 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>someone in the know</title>
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I think people are taking issue with the fact that they are vapid wannabe web celebs who, in all honesty, had little to over at the event? Just a theory though]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2009/06/with_net_neutrality_confusion_still_prevails/#c617274</link>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:53:35 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Sean</title>
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Picard102:  A flame war?  Really?  What is this, 1998?]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2009/06/with_net_neutrality_confusion_still_prevails/#c617265</link>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:36:29 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>keven</title>
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Gary Fung lives in Vancouver :P

What's with the ignorant, sexist comments in here?  Why on earth are these 2 bloggers getting the brunt of this?  Their fashion?  Their genitalia?

>I guess that makes anyone with a myspace page qualified to speak on the subject.

Actually anyone with an internet connection is/should be qualified to speak.  The whole point of the panel is to educate people.  The more people with a "myspace" page who realize how it's going to affect them, the better!  Hopefully those people will start to speak up in the future too.

>Are these socialites hiding their credentials somewhere on their blogs that I didn't see?

What credentials exactly do you need?  A pHD in Net Neutrality?  This issue affects us all, and certainly affects those CREATING CONTENT ON THE INTERNET.  Hrmm...

It's pretty clear to me why each person was invited to the panel.  If it's not so clear to you?  You probably should have been in attendance or should learn a bit more on the subject.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/tech/2009/06/with_net_neutrality_confusion_still_prevails/#c617240</link>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:56:48 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Steve</title>
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And nobody thought to invite the guy from ISOHunt?  I mean, he's only in the middle of a lawsuit with the recording industry, and a staunch supporter of net neutrality... plus you don't really have P2P repesentatives, but a bunch of bloggers.]]>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:55:41 PDT</pubDate>
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