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<title>anti-supernaturalist</title>
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The de-deification of western culture (including the sciences) is our task for the next two hundred years.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c571716</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:39:45 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Christopher Wing</title>
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Awww... poor little superstitious person had their feelings hurt.

In San Francisco, there's an Islamic bus campaign - "Submission to God."  While highly offensive, I have yet to see anyone take a marker to those signs.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c503220</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:22:20 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Corina</title>
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p.s. I think Toronto is mature enough to handle petty vandalism, we can all agree that it's cute without mortally wounding anyone's feelings.... now I happen to be in Arizona right now, where they arrest you for making God jokes. 

Let's be thankful for the tolerance of our love-filled petty vandalism :)]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c499644</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:14:26 PST</pubDate>
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<title>Corina</title>
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I love these Athiest Bus ads,  but I am worried over the Islamic Fundamentalism movements planed ads to be launched in BC... the guy speaking on Canada AM suggested that messages telling people to obey God or else suffer would be the focus of their campaign, as an affront to the Athiest Bus ads...

interesting fodder for my apathetic beliefs :)]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c499639</link>
<guid>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c499639</guid>
<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:11:05 PST</pubDate>
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<title>MattAlexander</title>
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There was a Ryerson student who was assaulted last year while putting up posters promoting a secularist event. He claimed it was a hate crime but I don't think anything came of it.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c499611</link>
<guid>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c499611</guid>
<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:52:21 PST</pubDate>
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<title>Nick</title>
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Mathew Hayles,

I love how you term this "sign modification" and "cute".
Do you think either would apply if I hacked your site, in a "cute" way of course, and "modified" your site to delete your posts and place mine up instead?
I have a feeling that the way you framed the vandalism minimizes what it is, because you disagree with the statement.
You sir are an idiot.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c499554</link>
<guid>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c499554</guid>
<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 10:02:58 PST</pubDate>
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<title>Bill</title>
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Isn't a belief in no God as much a religious expression as a belief in one? Shouldn't Atheism be protected by the same freedom that protects every other religion?]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c499304</link>
<guid>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c499304</guid>
<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 08:28:15 PST</pubDate>
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<title>Matthew Hayles</title>
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Haha, thanks W.K. Lis. What a classic.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c498453</link>
<guid>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c498453</guid>
<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:41:14 PST</pubDate>
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<title>W. K. Lis</title>
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I know just the people to stop all this blasphemy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uprjmoSMJ-o ]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c498316</link>
<guid>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c498316</guid>
<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:01:29 PST</pubDate>
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<title>Ryan L.</title>
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This would be an issue of freedom of speech, but of freedom of expression.  Even then, freedom of speech has its limitations.  It is -not- absolute.

Relevant info:
"2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: ... (b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication"

"The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society."

Breaking a law to make your voice heard would likely be affected by that last one.  I can see exceptions being made however when breaking the law is your only option to make your voice heard (And this person who left the message is no Rosa Parks).  Even if your right to free speech/expression is upheld, that doesn't mean you're exempt from the law you broke.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c498188</link>
<guid>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c498188</guid>
<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:35:04 PST</pubDate>
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<title>Anon</title>
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"I think that it is less than ideal to say something doesn't exist or is not valid than to say something exists or you support it. Its like saying 'Christianity (for example) doesn't exist'. Rather than demoting others in support of yourself, why not just promote yourself"

The entire premise of atheism is that God doesn't exist. There's absolutely no way to promote atheism without demoting all religions. Of course, the same goes for almost all religious positions. For example, "Jesus Loves You" should almost always be taken to imply, among other things, "Buddha doesn't love you (because he either never existed or is currently dead)".]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c498160</link>
<guid>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c498160</guid>
<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:26:26 PST</pubDate>
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<title>Frank</title>
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They're free to go through the same process to get their own ads on the TTC. Vandalism is vandalism, not free speech.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c498048</link>
<guid>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c498048</guid>
<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:34:24 PST</pubDate>
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<title>adfgjsafg</title>
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Freedom of speech, unless they put a sign over yours then it's not tolerated?]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c498046</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:30:26 PST</pubDate>
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<title>Frank</title>
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Thus the word "probably." In the same vein, there are probably no leprechauns, and probably no hobgoblins. 

No-one is saying that since you can't prove leprechauns don't exist that it is therefore reasonable to believe they do.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c498026</link>
<guid>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c498026</guid>
<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:57:23 PST</pubDate>
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<title>reckoner71</title>
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I fully expect religious people to behave like this - kicking and screaming as their belief in mythology is exposed as nonsense. How is this any different than the RIAA suing grandmothers and tweens for disrupting their established world order of wealth and power? Remember how you felt when you learned Santa Claus was not real?

Same thing.

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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c497996</link>
<guid>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c497996</guid>
<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:16:06 PST</pubDate>
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<title>Parkdalian</title>
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Was this photo taken in the UK? Cause i thought they were thinking of the same thing here but were awaiting donations.

Another point, is graffitti considered free speech? And if so, would free speech be more important than breaking a law?]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c497981</link>
<guid>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c497981</guid>
<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:55:30 PST</pubDate>
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<title>aaa-bbb</title>
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Die Religion ... ist das Opium des Volkes]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c497966</link>
<guid>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c497966</guid>
<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:44:39 PST</pubDate>
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<title>Ryan L.</title>
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I saw an ad on the bus just yesterday for 'Bus stop bible studies', which had a phrase from the bible quoted on it.  On top of this ad was a sticker with just the word 'Propaganda'.

You don't have to be religious to be a dick.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c497965</link>
<guid>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c497965</guid>
<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:42:36 PST</pubDate>
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<title>James</title>
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Besides the obvious that vandalism itself is a crime, as an atheist I consider violence to be abhorrent in favor of rational discussion, and this person chose the former rather than the latter, because of one very important reason, because religion is a tool of tyranny, it encourages violence, not rational thought or evidence based knowledge, and there's just no excuse for an archaic "might makes right" attitude in a civilized, democratic, society.  ]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c497868</link>
<guid>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c497868</guid>
<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:12:47 PST</pubDate>
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<title>Frank</title>
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The ads have succeeded if they cause faith-heads to want to blot them out. Religion can't withstand even the slightest, gentlest criticism.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2009/03/desecrating_the_atheist_bus_ad/#c497780</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:59:10 PST</pubDate>
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