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<title>blogTO Recent Comments: The Toronto News Media Map and Advertising</title>
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<title>Kris</title>
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The Walrus.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/09/the_toronto_news_media_map_and_advertising/#c313487</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:17:11 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>steve</title>
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Just got a copy my MARKETING magazine - the Sept 29th issue (Brad J Lamb is on the cover) There is a big pull out poster map of this exact thing in the center. Canada's Media Landscape, covers print, television and radio stations - indepth.

Canwest
CTV GlobeMedia
Quebecor
Torstar
NewCap
St Joseph Media
Corus
Gesca
Astral Media
Transcontinental
Rogers
CBC]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/09/the_toronto_news_media_map_and_advertising/#c313403</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:42:07 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Jerrold</title>
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@ Dave

If your comments contain two or more hyperlinks, they're automatically sent to moderation (anti-spam measure) BUT they should be marked as safe and published once reviewed (and declared non-spam by human eyes). Granted, we have had some technical glitches with this system and some comments do get lost.

If this happens again, please do let us know and we'll make every attempt to fix it.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/09/the_toronto_news_media_map_and_advertising/#c313140</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:49:09 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>gl smb</title>
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so CP24 and cityTV have two different owners? had no idea

i wonder how many people even know what channel ctv newsnet is on]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/09/the_toronto_news_media_map_and_advertising/#c313108</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:51:25 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>rek</title>
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I was *this* close to doing a media map of Canada's newspapers and TV/cable stations. Now I might actually do it.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/09/the_toronto_news_media_map_and_advertising/#c313086</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:23:04 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Joe Howell</title>
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I realize that you never pretended the list to be comprehensive, but an awful lot of "indie media" got snubbed here - what about all the campus newspapers, for instance? Surely the Eyeopener, the Varsity, and others are worth a mention.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/09/the_toronto_news_media_map_and_advertising/#c313081</link>
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<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:04:41 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>dave</title>
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I've submitted a bunch of posts, they don't post directly they say they are being submitted for review.... none of which end up on the site and none  contained your comments below. What gives? Either way change your name and email address and you can post again.

"Comments on blogTO are very rarely unpublished, but when the need arises, they are. Reasons include:

- when the comment is clearly threatening, or offensive (profane, racist, derogatory, harrassing, etc.)
- when the comment reveals personal information (names, phone, address, etc) of another commenter or persons in the post (the exception being publicly available contact info for politicians or businesses, etc)
- when it's a accidental double comment
- spam"]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/09/the_toronto_news_media_map_and_advertising/#c313074</link>
<guid>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/09/the_toronto_news_media_map_and_advertising/#c313074</guid>
<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:36:51 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Dave</title>
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Maybe dave's attempted threadjack was meant to suggest that all forms of media control views and opinions???  I mean, I guess technically Jerrold COULD be Big Brother and remove opinions from comments - but I don't think he does...

I mean, even Zack still has his comments up.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/09/the_toronto_news_media_map_and_advertising/#c313046</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:11:31 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Jerrold</title>
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@ stickles
I scanned Sun TV's programming schedule and didn't find any news. Am I missing something?]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/09/the_toronto_news_media_map_and_advertising/#c313044</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:03:14 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Jerrold</title>
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blogTO most certainly is an open forum for disussion, and our reader comments are most certainly not censored to fit my or anyone else interests. If you have any reason to think otherwise, perhaps you should contact me or the publisher.

Comments on blogTO are very rarely unpublished, but when the need arises, they are. Reasons include:

- when the comment is clearly threatening, or offensive (profane, racist, derogatory, harrassing, etc.)
- when the comment reveals personal information (names, phone, address, etc) of another commenter or persons in the post (the exception being publicly available contact info for politicians or businesses, etc)
- when it's a accidental double comment
- spam

We do our best, and we'd never remove comments simply because we don't agree with opinions expressed within.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/09/the_toronto_news_media_map_and_advertising/#c313042</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:01:46 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>dave</title>
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How does everyone feel about Blogs and comments being censored? What you think is an open forum for city of Toronto discussion and for news discussion is not actually 'open'.
Presumably the coverage on here is pro-Jerrold's interests.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/09/the_toronto_news_media_map_and_advertising/#c313035</link>
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<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:46:23 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>peter</title>
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"But should it also be expected and accepted that those sames news organizations sell products and services through actual news articles? "
No it shouldn't be expected.

Let's not get actual real "NEWS" confused with personal interest stories and reports whether cars, food, movies, health, etc. If they were messing with the real news that is just wrong, otherwise most of this "fluff news" you wouldn't be reading it at all if the advertiser didn't pay for it. So you can have your report on Cheese provided by the Dairy Farmers of Canada right at the time there is a listeriea outbreak which you may find very insightful or you cannot have it at all because it won't get produced unless it's sponsored by, provided by, paid for by...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advertorial]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/09/the_toronto_news_media_map_and_advertising/#c313034</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:35:00 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>stickles</title>
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You forgot SUN-TV (which is okay, most do).

Also the Rogers-owned OMNI which has always covered news in other languages. Presumably their coverage is just as pro-Ted's interests as what we've seen this year on Citytv.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/09/the_toronto_news_media_map_and_advertising/#c313033</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:34:34 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Ryan L.</title>
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For those who live outside of Toronto:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osprey_Media

That -entire- list is a subsidary of Quebecor in addition to the ones Jerrold listed.

And it should be noted that former PC leader and Prime Minister, Brian Mulrooney sits on Quebecor's board of directors.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/09/the_toronto_news_media_map_and_advertising/#c313011</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:13:11 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Dave</title>
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I understand Jerrold, I was just attempting to demonstrate another more innocent side.

Sadly, the newspaper business just isn't as viable a medium as others.  Hence the reason why media groups are amalgamating into larger and more diverse businesses (I think that when they all join into a snigle entity known as the Ministry of Truth, we should worry) who then use whatever mediums they have at their disposal to make money (which is what papers are supposed to do for themselves).

Sorry to hear about that writer!  Keep your new writer, Laura! She seems like she's all kinds of awesome.  (Could have had her cover the Comic-Con)]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/09/the_toronto_news_media_map_and_advertising/#c313009</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:10:57 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Jerrold</title>
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iPod (and other tech-related) launches: 
News reporting on a technology release is revelent news, IMO. Sure it's a product, but it also has cultural implications. Furthermore, reviews (good and bad) of tech products in reputable publications are genuine, and the manufacturer doesn't pay for placement in those review/news pieces. The same goes for food and artistic performance reviews.

Wheels section of the Star: mostly a collection of ads, not being masked as news. If cars are reviewed in Wheels, one can only hope that they're genuine and not paid advertising (and I supect they are legti).]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/09/the_toronto_news_media_map_and_advertising/#c313004</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:00:00 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Jerrold</title>
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@ Dave

Point taken, but the distinction is that when our new writer (who didn't end up working out, incidentally) wrote up a review of the cigar launch party, there was no connection between our publisher and the seller of the cigars, whatsoever.

Most of the examples I cited in the post above are distinctly different, in that the publisher has a vested interest (i.e. ownership or income) in the product of service advertised within the news piece.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/09/the_toronto_news_media_map_and_advertising/#c313002</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:51:49 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Dave</title>
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Like covering the Mombacho cigar launch party?  I think everyone got up in arms about how that seemed like blatant advertising.  (I don't mean this to be critical, but sometimes news can easily be read as an advertisement - a particularly insidious way to get circumvent laws as well)

Many news articles can be read as promotions - iPod launches, the whole Wheels section of the Toronto Star, what about Fringe and Restaurant reviews?]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/09/the_toronto_news_media_map_and_advertising/#c313000</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:40:16 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Jerrold</title>
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@ Pete

We're not talking about traditional advertisements in news media (newspapers, web). We're talking about news media tricking readers into thinking that they are getting news when in fact they're delivering advertising.

On this site advertising is not hidden in news articles, it's confined to dedicated ad space. Surely you don't think the flashing beer ad on this page is a news article. :P]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/09/the_toronto_news_media_map_and_advertising/#c312992</link>
<guid>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/09/the_toronto_news_media_map_and_advertising/#c312992</guid>
<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:08:01 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>pete</title>
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$4 off 24 Heineken!!! Ahhhh Yeah, Gettin it!!! Beer and news this is a one stop shop...]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/09/the_toronto_news_media_map_and_advertising/#c312989</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:56:41 PDT</pubDate>
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