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<title>Equalizer</title>
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I bit conspiracy-theorist, but I wonder if they found that internal counterfeiting of tickets was a bigger problem than they imagined.

Where I've been in Europe, in much smaller cities than Toronto, the buses were all modern, all the drivers friendly, drivers/assistant would make change, strong sense of passenger etiquette...just have never seen 2nd world Toronto the same again.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/07/ttc_phasing_out_adult_tickets/#c294372</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:58:37 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Equalizer</title>
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I concur with yellowman.  I came across machines in Europe that dispense cards (maybe around 1 Euro charge for the card itself0 which you can refill continuously for up to a year.  And when you buy a "1 day pass", you actually get a full 24 hours from when you purchase it; and monthly passes there don't go by the strict calendar month, they last one month from whatever day you happened to purchase them.

I think the problem is not that there is not a big enough consumer base like the B.S. excuse we normally get.  I think it is just that there is actually more than enough of a market (enough suckers) to pay the price or those who have no alternative.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/07/ttc_phasing_out_adult_tickets/#c294371</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:50:39 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Danielle</title>
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@john - I use the same subway stations (Spadina North + King) every day and didn't see the signage until this week. I'm not sure if only certain locations were updated mid-june, but the posters just recently appeared at many.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/07/ttc_phasing_out_adult_tickets/#c294234</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:39:56 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Elle Driver</title>
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I'm so tired of people comparing the TTC to other systems - especially Europe. They tend to forget that the TTC receives the least amount of government funding, compared to every other system in the world.

Yes, we are YEARS behind comparatively to places like Asia and London, but 75% of those populations rely on public transit. Those places also utilize "congestion taxes" - charging those who drive in the main city area with extra fees, which go directly into the transit system. We could never have that here in Toronto, as people love their cars too much, and the car lobbyists would go absolutely bat-shit and start rioting in the streets. 

(And JT, have you BEEN to the Paris system? Yeah, they have cards, but the subway cars and stations themselves are about 50 years behind. You have to crank-open the doors manually, and there are no escalators or elevators in most stations. Also no central air system, so the subway car windows are left wide open, forcing you to breathe filthy tunnel air and debris. Absolutely the worst part of my trip there.)]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/07/ttc_phasing_out_adult_tickets/#c294104</link>
<guid>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/07/ttc_phasing_out_adult_tickets/#c294104</guid>
<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:40:08 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>John Sinclair</title>
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Quietly? Last time I did something quietly I didn't put a 4 foot advertisement up in every subway station.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/07/ttc_phasing_out_adult_tickets/#c294041</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:07:28 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Danielle</title>
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I've never ran across a legit ticket agent selling tokens. That's an interesting tidbit.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/07/ttc_phasing_out_adult_tickets/#c293983</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 00:56:31 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Bubba</title>
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5 to 8 years away!? LMAO! Just like the TTC to be far behind on this. Once agin the TTC is consistent on being inconsistent. Pathetic! 5 to 8 years! Just Pathetic!]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/07/ttc_phasing_out_adult_tickets/#c293979</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 00:12:59 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Brad Ross</title>
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The TTC announced the elimination of adult tickets on June 11 (http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Toronto-Transit-Commission-867647.html). Local agents will receive tokens for re-sale in place of tickets. In fact, agents have always had the option of reselling tokens. 

The TTC purchased an additional 20 million tokens to ensure agents and collectors had adequate supplies to meet the obvious demand as tickets are phased out.

A fare card system is in development, together with the province. We're five to eight years away. But it is coming.

Brad Ross
TTC]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/07/ttc_phasing_out_adult_tickets/#c293960</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:52:09 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Danielle</title>
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I'd be very much down with a pass card such as Montreal or New York (other systems I've visited recently) it seems archaic that our system is still stuck on fare boxes.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/07/ttc_phasing_out_adult_tickets/#c293945</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:24:07 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>jt</title>
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TORONTO IS LAME.

montreal has the opus card.

london has the oyster card

paris has the Navigo card.

MOscow has the transport card.

when is this "world-class city" gonna show some class?]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/07/ttc_phasing_out_adult_tickets/#c293928</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:11:24 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Mark Dowling</title>
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one advantage of less tickets/more tokens is that more people might use turnstiles rather than filling the queue for the collector at stations like Coxwell.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/07/ttc_phasing_out_adult_tickets/#c293927</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:55:31 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Anon</title>
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I live downtown, within sight of the CN tower -- near streetcars and buses, but not near subway stations.  It's convenient for me to use the TTC, but if I can only buy access to the TTC by travelling to an inconvenient subway station...  I'm supposed to drive to a subway station to buy TTC tokens?  Are they insane?

Automated fare card systems are only, what, 30-40 years old now.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/07/ttc_phasing_out_adult_tickets/#c293908</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:24:02 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Ryan L.</title>
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I find it absurd that they phase out the tickets before they work on a strategy for stores selling tokens.  I don't see why they couldn't wait the extra month or so to get that figured out, unless of course they know something we don't.  Perhaps they're aware of more counterfeit tickets than the public knows about.

To those who are suggesting an automated system, good luck convincing the TTC to invest in a technology that could make some of its employees obsolete.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/07/ttc_phasing_out_adult_tickets/#c293889</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:52:56 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Grumpster</title>
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You're all on crack. Buy a token instead of a ticket. Put in fare box. Repeat.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/07/ttc_phasing_out_adult_tickets/#c293887</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:45:43 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>apetimberlake</title>
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What is the deal with the transfer system on the TTC.
In Montreal you just grab a trasfer yourself when you get on the bus. The transfer has a code punched out on it, and when you feed it at the turnstiles at the stations, if the ticket is expired the turn stile doesnt open...They also have the time period that it is good until on the transfer aswell..

The TTC transfers are demented]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/07/ttc_phasing_out_adult_tickets/#c293883</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:34:53 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Gloria</title>
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Andrea: Not necessarily. Consider that tickets are made of paper, which are lighter and more likely to fly off in a breeze if they fall out of a pocket, and disintegrate more quickly when exposed to the elements. 

Tokens are shiny and eye-catching, survive a lot longer due to their materials, and are heavier, so when they fall, they stay put. That makes it more likely someone will walk by and see it.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/07/ttc_phasing_out_adult_tickets/#c293882</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:26:50 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>eskzoo</title>
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Get an Oyster card or similar... Montreal's doing it!]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/07/ttc_phasing_out_adult_tickets/#c293879</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:15:48 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Jenna</title>
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The Shoppers Drug Mart at Queen and Parliament is selling tokens...not sure about the other locations.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/07/ttc_phasing_out_adult_tickets/#c293878</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:13:19 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>yellowman</title>
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The TTC should really grow and start adopting more technology.  Look at the subway systems in New York and Japan, they both use cards that can be easily stored in a wallet and can be charged through credit cards or pre-paid stations.

By adding this technology I can see the TTC saving money from counterfeiters.   Come one people, who hasn't cut the outside of a penny and used it as a TTC token.

The subway system in Toronto is a complete joke.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/07/ttc_phasing_out_adult_tickets/#c293873</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:58:10 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>David</title>
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aimee, there is now some evidence that the TTC will move forward on a full-scale Presto implementation.  In the report to the Commission on this, they state that in the "long term" (defined as more than two years out), they will move to a system that does not require visual verification of fare media.  It's hard to see this as anything other than Presto.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/07/ttc_phasing_out_adult_tickets/#c293869</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:48:30 PDT</pubDate>
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