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<title>Esther Venketeswaran</title>
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I attended the unveiling of this memorial on June 23, 2007.   I lost my father on that plane crash when I was only 15 years old.  I said goodbye to my Dad for the last time at Toronto Pearson and wept in his arms.  In many ways, I still feel like that 15 year old today.  Today I still miss him terribly and wish he could be here to have seen me graduate, get married.  This will weigh upon Canada's national conscious forever.  It will never be wiped away.  The loss of life was in every way comparable to the talent, skill & youth and numbers lost in 9/11 saw.  Man's inhumanity to man - Air India Flight 182 is a stunning, staggering testimony to that.

The true memorial resides in Ireland, in Ahakista, Co. Cork. It is beautiful and was timely in its establishment.

Psalm 23

The Lord is my Shepherd,
I shall not want
He maketh me to lie down in green pastures,
He leadeth me beside the still waters,
He restoreth my soul;
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, 
I will fear no evil,
For Thou art with me,
Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me.
Thou preparest a table in the presence of my enemies.
Thou anointest my head with oil.
My cup runneth over,
Surely goodness and mercy will follow me all the days of my life;
And I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever. Amen.

In Memory of,
T.K. Venketeswaran,
45 years old
Perished on Air India, Flight 182
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<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:28:14 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Tanweer</title>
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Correction to Craig's post - Mukul Paliwal was a friend of mine, and he was travelling alone on the flight.. his mom, sister, brother and father were not flying with him.  His father however died a couple of years later on the exact same date, while continuing to fight to apprehend those responsible.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/06/remembering_air_india_flight_182_with_optimism/#c301091</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:15:00 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Chris Orbz</title>
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I wanted to wait a bit before responding to this discussion, for reasons that are probably obvious.

I don't feel differently from most of the commentary here, although there has been stuff said that's made me think further in directions I hadn't yet.

I said they don't compare to mean they don't equate, and in raw numbers, they don't.  The statement (johnnylee) that suffering cannot be so easily quantified, comparing the loss of whole families vs individuals out of families was valid and overlooked by myself.

I was also referring to NYC/USA's intense personalization of 9/11 vs Canadians' apparent disconnect and even apathy about Flight 182.  While I'm very glad we didn't start a campaign of endless global warfare as a "response", I did find it troubling how much people here have just treated this as something that happened to "someone else".

With that in mind, I'm very happy about the posted discussion here, because most of it not only talked about but demonstrated passionate feelings opposite to that disconnect and apathy - rude reply included.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/06/remembering_air_india_flight_182_with_optimism/#c291216</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:54:09 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Tongle</title>
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There's a line in there "Canadian treatment of this part of our history" that rings true, example: a good chunk of this blog going on about 9/11- this is about a tragedy that pre-dates New York's plane problems by about 15 years. 

Implying that this is somehow less of a tragedy really takes away from what's a nice write up on the memorial.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/06/remembering_air_india_flight_182_with_optimism/#c290897</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:41:53 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>alx</title>
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@johnnylee. MOST of the victims were from Toronto (apparently) but that is not the issue - TO was merely a transit point - the flight, and the planning of the attack originated in Vancouver, a more appropriate location for any memorial, surely.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/06/remembering_air_india_flight_182_with_optimism/#c290871</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:45:43 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>jonson roth</title>
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I lost close friends and acquaintances due to this tragedy, as did many others I know. And it pains me as much as 9/11. Any loss of life due to the misguided behavior of others is an equal and uncomparable tragedy.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/06/remembering_air_india_flight_182_with_optimism/#c290842</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:51:50 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Craig</title>
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Mukul Paliwal was in grade 9 with me. I didn't know him very well, but his locker was across from mine. He, his mother and sister died on flight 182 and his father was absolutely shattered by the event.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/06/remembering_air_india_flight_182_with_optimism/#c290789</link>
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<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:05:18 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>johnnylee</title>
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@alx: Many of the victims and their families were from Toronto and the GTA.  
@minou, @rex: I concur - some of the people affected lost their entire families - not just one member of their family - but their ENTIRE family - all their children and their husband or wife.  This was a tragedy that cannot compare to any other tragedy.  But if we must compare, 9/11 is appropriate.  Like 9/11;  strangers were targetted, involves planes, and those responsible have not (for the most part) been held accountable.  However, unlike 9/11, it did not spark a war, and has been largely forgotten.  Not being aware during the tragedy is not an excuse to minimize it - imagine if everyone who was not alive or aware if world war ll minimized the horrors of the holocaust, or the internment of the Japanese and Ukrainians during the wars.  In time these events will be forgotten.  We need to prevent tragedies - not forget them. Lest we forget people, Lest we forget.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/06/remembering_air_india_flight_182_with_optimism/#c290769</link>
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<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:42:57 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>Dave</title>
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Every time I think about this it either makes me cry or makes my blood boil. Any of my family members could have easily been on that flight. 

I don't think people should get upset about the first paragraph. It doesn't compare in a number of ways. I applaud the author for trying to understand this tragedy; in many ways, I struggle to accept it without succumbing to hatred or anger. 

It's hard to contemplate and understand the suffering of other people. The author here has tried. That's an important thing for people who feel more personally connected to it like myself. Given that back in 85 most people saw this as an Indian tragedy, it's comforting to see that that isn't any longer the case.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/06/remembering_air_india_flight_182_with_optimism/#c290757</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:56:38 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>alx</title>
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Sorry - what does the AI Flight 182 tragedy have to do with Toronto?? I watched the new doc last night - I'm still at a loss to decide who should be more embarrassed by the catastrophe - CSIS/the RCMP/the CANADIAN GOVERNMENT? That it remains unresolved (from the aspect of successful prosecution) is a national disgrace and shameful.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/06/remembering_air_india_flight_182_with_optimism/#c290755</link>
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<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:48:20 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>minou</title>
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Oops. I meant *one of* of the most insensitive things I have ever read.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/06/remembering_air_india_flight_182_with_optimism/#c290749</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:19:24 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>minou</title>
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Wow. That first paragraph has got to be the most insensitive things I have ever read. Have you seen the Air India 182 documentary? I'm betting you haven't. I'm also betting that you were at an age in 1985 when events did not impact you as much as the age you were in 2001. I saw Air India 182 at Hot Docs and I challenge you to belittle the families of the victims by repeating your first paragraph to them personally.

Could you explain to us exactly what it is in your mind that makes the Air India bombing a less worthy "reflection"?]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/06/remembering_air_india_flight_182_with_optimism/#c290746</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:17:37 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>David</title>
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"while they may not compare, comparisons can certainly be drawn up."

Genius.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/06/remembering_air_india_flight_182_with_optimism/#c290726</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:30:33 PDT</pubDate>
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<title>rek</title>
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What a moronic thing to say. Of course the bombing of Air India 182 compares to the WTC attacks on Sept 11 2001. Are you saying the friends and family members of the victims didn't lose anything comparable? Are you saying the bombing had no comparable impact on Canadian life? That the previous largest aircraft-related mass death due to terrorism is nothing at all like the current largest aircraft-related mass death due to terrorism? How many hundred more people should have had to die for you to decide the two are comparable?

This isn't generally how I respond to blog posts, but Chris you are a fucking idiot.]]>
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<link>http://www.blogto.com/city/2008/06/remembering_air_india_flight_182_with_optimism/#c290724</link>
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<category>Toronto, City</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:24:17 PDT</pubDate>
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