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NDP Senses Changing Environment in the Polls

Posted by Greg Davis / September 28, 2008

NDP Environment*Note: Post was edited Monday morning in light of details released in written platform.

As NDP leader Jack Layton is set to officially unveil his party's program here in Toronto today, what better time to take a look at the environmental platform?

It appears that Dion is worried about growing NDP support in Toronto and will be heading to Toronto as well to compete for support in this important battleground. Last week I took a look at the Liberal Green Shift and this week we'll see how the NDP plan stacks up.

While Layton seems to be focusing on his party as the only economically viable alternative to Harper's Conservatives, the environment has taken a bit of a surprising back seat role for the party this time around. He might benefit from Obama's performance in the presidential debates Friday night where it was stressed that a hands off approach to regulating industry and finance lead to the financial crisis hitting the US.

Let's loos at some key points in their ideas on environmental issues.

Give them credit for elaborating on some of their previously vague campaign promises. Although it still seems like on some points I'm left with more questions than answers. For example, "work cooperatively with all stakeholders towards meeting 35 percent of Canada's energy needs with renewable energy by 2020" is pretty easy to say and hard to discern actually meaning. Aside from the small issues raised, they have stuck to some main ideas:

Climate Change / Carbon Emissions
- NDP supports a cap-and-trade system where the government sets a limit on emissions in the country and industry buys and sells permits to stay in compliance. In this sense, it essentially achieves the same thing as a carbon tax (putting a price on carbon emissions). The limitwould be set at 25% below 1990 levels by 2020. But where does that leave us until then? Will they auction off permits? I'm left with too many questions. The Liberals and Greens have both come out with an actual price structure for their carbon taxes (please see a more detailed explanation of carbon tax versus cap-and-trade).
- It is emphasized that the NDP was responsible for pushing through the "Climate Change Accountability Act" adopted by Parliament in June 2008 as a precondition to passing the budget. The bill sets a target of an 80% reduction in greenhouse gas emissions by 2050, has already been passed, and making goals for 2050 doesn't mean much in my opinion.

Other
- Propose a $3 billion per year green-collar jobs fund
- Introduce Canada Environment Action Bonds to raise capital for green goals
- Invest in greener homes, cities, and public transport with allocations of almost $1 billion per year
- Halt new tar sands development until emissions are capped (I guess they don't really get any Alberta votes anyway...)

I like that they make considerable mention of preserving our "natural heritage" (conservation lands) but here as well I'm not seeing much in the way of concrete ideas for how to this with words like "encourage" and "promote".

The NDP have the advantage of being able to point out their environmental record on past issues, which in fairness, is pretty good. For example, unlike the Conservatives, they spoke out against the use of bottom trawling fishing methods.

Locally, prominent NDP candidate Olivia Chow is participating in "The Vote Meets the Economy: The Toronto Candidates Debate" at CBC's Glenn Gould Studio next Tuesday (Oct. 7th) night at 7pm, where she will clash with panelists Bob Rae (Liberal), Peter Van Lo-wan (Tories) and Nick Capra (Green).

Take a look for yourself at the NDP party platform as presented on their website and be sure to check out the mp3 version of Jack Layton interviewed on TVO's The Agenda with Steve Paikin from last week.

Image from Iliall's photostream

Discussion

15 Comments

Dave / September 28, 2008 at 10:53 am
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To put it bluntly, the NDP has not offered a climate change plan at all. It has merely expressed a preference for cap and trade. I suppose that's really enough for a party that knows it cannot form government.

Without details, it's just not a plan. It took almost a decade of negotiation for the EU to devise a cap and trade system. That's why the Liberals are proposing a carbon tax: it can be done immediately. They support cap and trade, too, eventually. But we need to start making progress now.

With the Liberals, we have (or had, maybe it's too late now) an established, electable party with a climate change plan and a sincere commitment to the issue. This is the chance for those of us who care about the environment to make a difference. Our failure to rally behind them so far has been appalling. If they do poorly on election day, Dion will be out and the Liberals will be looking for a new direction. The environment will be politically toxic -- no one in the mainstream will want to touch it again.
gl smb / September 28, 2008 at 10:59 am
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"The NDP plan is disappointingly vague and lacks a detailed document. It amounts to a bunch of speaking points ..."

No kidding. Because, as Jeffrey Simpsons <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080926.wcosimp27/BNStory/specialComment/";>says so well</a>, the NDP isn't held to the same standards as the Liberals or Conservatives. They can (and do) promise anything and everything under the sun without regard to reality and they get a pass.

Worse, the NDP has to balance its manufacturing-union base against its environmental base. That results in crappy compromises on both fronts (see: cap and trade instead of a carbon tax).

The Green's and the Liberal's are better for the environment than the empty-rhetoric NDP. The possibility that they may end up holding more than a token number of Toronto seats is embarassing.
Paul / September 28, 2008 at 02:20 pm
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C'mon. "Promise anything and everything... without regard to reality" is a charge more fairly leveled against the Green Party than the NDP. The idea that the NDP aren't held to the same standard as the other parties is laughable coming from a columnist for a newspaper which has marginalized and ignored the NDP for many years and is only resentfully paying them attention now that many Canadians are looking for an alternative to the scandal-ridden parties that have taken their power for granted for so many years.

The Liberals, of course, promise many things but never actually get around to implementing them (see Nat'l Daycare for an example). Their "sincere commitment" never seems to become action, and they've had many years in majority to walk the talk. Jack Layton and the NDP have excellent environmental credentials and I for one trust them FAR above the other parties to do the right thing for Canadians and the environment.
Dan / September 28, 2008 at 03:26 pm
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Did you even read the platform that was unveiled today? Because the link you provided isn't the NDP platform - this is - http://www.ndp.ca/xfer/campaign2008/Platform_2008_EN.pdf

Pages 24 to 29 spell out the party's environmental plank. Its much more detailed than Greg describes.
m / September 28, 2008 at 04:00 pm
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I like the NDP, I think I've voted for them in every election at every level so far. But not this time. Dion has wed himself to one issue, global warming, and because of his focus he's the only person I'd trust to actually change anything.

@Paul: Yeah the libs have promised stuff before and never gotten around to it, but I hope you see that Dion is so tied to the green shift that he cannot avoid implementing it. He's researched it, chaired the 2005 Kyoto Conference on Climate Change in Montreal, and even named his dog Kyoto. I cannot help but believe that if given a mandate, even a minority, he'd push the green shift through as the first order of business.

As a counterpoint though, I have to praise the NDP for being democratic. I sat in on a candidate selection meeting for the NDP a few years back (York South-Weston) and I was shocked that there were ballots and a vote was held to determine who would represent the NDP in the riding. It may have been more for show or just a formality but the speeches of the potential candidates seemed genuine.
Dave / September 28, 2008 at 06:03 pm
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"Did you even read the platform that was unveiled today?...Pages 24 to 29 spell out the party's environmental plank. Its much more detailed than Greg describes."

From that platform, here are the "details" of the NDP cap and trade "plan":

- Make big polluters pay. We will put a price on carbon through a "cap-and-trade" carbon pricing system which establishes hard limits on pollution and a tough charge on polluters who exceed the limits.
- All revenue will be applied to environmental solutions.

What are the limits? What is the charge for exceeding the limits? How does the trading market work?

These are the issues that took the EU almost a decade to figure out. The NDP doesn't even have suggestions. Like I said, their "plan" is merely the expression of a preference for cap and trade.
Greg Davis / September 29, 2008 at 06:44 am
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Sorry guys this post had to be edited I rushed it out not realizing they had the written document coming out. Please re-read with edits.
rek / September 29, 2008 at 10:49 am
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Do the Cons get a pass for all the promises they made in 2006 and didn't fulfill, or downright contradicted when it suited them? (Free votes? Fixed election dates? Open discussion of proposed international treaties?)
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MrTimt / April 16, 2009 at 12:43 pm
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KinderWoods / April 20, 2009 at 02:25 am
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DeldRileFrise / April 27, 2009 at 12:06 pm
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Anyway they are real fun, seeing what everyone dressed up as and how they interpredted the theme idea.
Gokarropgor / February 10, 2010 at 03:53 am
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Скопипастил на своем блоге вашу информацию, и создол там конечно-же сылку на вас. Но вот зашел побачить поевился ли трекбек, а его нет: Досадно конечно, но ведь публикуем мы не ради ссылок)) Но все же посмотрите все ли у вас пашет, ибо странно что ссылка не поевилась, или она не прошла модерацию?

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