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Plastic Bag Ban Talk

Posted by Greg Davis / April 11, 2008

plastic_bags.jpgPhoto from Chris Jordan photographic arts.

Talk of banning plastic bags is nothing new. In fact its a pretty hot topic in Toronto and across the province. But the issue has recently been spurred on by a possible move by the provincial government.

As reported by the CBC and elsewhere in the media in recent days, Premier McGuinty is considering banning the use of plastic bags by its LCBO stores. Stopping short of saying a ban has been decided on, the premier was quoted as saying "I think we should give that some real consideration... It's something that obviously we should take a look at."

The comments are being reported on along with a move by Nova Scotia to phase out plastic bags in liquor stores by this fall. There they are offering customers free cloth bags if they buy three bottles of wine this month. Liquor store bags are particularly vulnerable to criticism, being thicker than the average plastic bag due to the heavy products they sell. But if consumers are willing to fully embrace cloth bags, as some claim, this shouldn't be an obstacle to ditching the plastic. Most LCBO stores already offer optional cloth bags as an alternative.

The prevalence of "eco-friendly" branded bags being offered at grocery and other stores across Toronto is already quite remarkable. So are we ready for a more sweeping action such as one that would ban plastic bags completely or make consumers pay extra to account for the cost of disposing them at end of life? Ontario's official plan is to reduce the number plastic bags used by 50 percent by 2012. This ambitious target might force the province to consider following examples that have received international attention such as the ban in San Francisco (plastic bags have been outlawed in favor of biodegradable ones made from potato starch instead) and consumer taxes in Ireland.

While it may be the case that a ban is a no-brainer, its also worth thinking about what that would mean for people. Don't forget about all the secondary uses for plastic bags, some of which actually help reduce litter. Like using them at home for small waste baskets, organizing recyclables, and in Toronto they are acceptable to use in the green bin organics program. Plus how would dog owners around the city pick up after their dogs without plastic bags?

Although cloth bags may not last forever, they seem like a clear winner over the paper alternative which has been criticized for requiring more resources to produce. Clearly consumers might have to cough up more money to cover the cost of moving away from plastic and its not certain everyone would happy about that. The question remains: are plastic bags a big enough problem to warrant so much attention and an eventual ban? For those that may be interested in looking further into the issues around plastic bag use, Plastic Bags: Friend or Foe?, is an entire website devoted to the topic and a good place to start.

Plastic Bag Quickfacts
- plastic bags can take up to 500 years to degrade
- the Canadian Plastics Industry Association claims Canadians bring home an average of 200 plastic bags annually
- in Britain studies have shown only one in 200 bags issued are recycled, with the rest comprising 1.5% of all material in landfills
- a standard plastic grocery bag costs about a penny to produce, compared with 4 cents to 5 cents for a paper bag
- compostable plastic bags would cost from 8 cents to a dime
- a recent study in Australia found that banning plastic bags would cost the economy A$1 billion (around $900m) and result in job losses
- taking effect on June 1st, China has banned the free use of ultra-thin plastic bags requiring that consumers be charged if stores are to use them

Discussion

18 Comments

Sean Williams / April 11, 2008 at 12:12 pm
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- a standard plastic grocery bag costs about a penny to produce, compared with 4 cents to 5 cents for a paper bag.

Paper bags were replaced by plastic bags because plastic is more durable. Frozen items in a paper bag during the summer, with condensation, the bags get soggy and tear open in the bottom. Plastic rules!

The grocery store chains should give out their 'green' bags for FREE. They are durable and with their logo on it, it promotes them. Until I get those free, I'll stick to the ordinary plastic bags.

Their 'green' bags by the way are made of recycled plastic products.
MArk / April 11, 2008 at 01:14 pm
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Plastic garbage island in the middle of the Pacific. Great story.

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Ryan L. / April 11, 2008 at 01:45 pm
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Just to add on to what Sean said. Paper bags are WORSE for the environment than plastic ones. It's really an issue of misinformation. Paper bags take up many more times the space, and weigh significantly more than plastic. This means significant amounts of carbon released in transportation alone.

Because they are not as strong, they often have to be double or triple bagged (in their traditional form). To combat this, some stores have made their bags thicker and added cord-like handles, which use up more material still, often use more glue and require even more space to ship.

This is why I've begun to hate stores like Whole Foods, which promote paper bags as being more environmentally friendly, when really they're only doing it because it gives them the -image- of being more environmentally friendly, when in fact they're doing quite the opposite.

Plastic bags are often reused for pet owners and as garbage bags. How many (thicker and heavier) garbage bags are saved from the landfill by the use of grocery bags?

Surprisingly, the solution that is best for the environment is one that many grocery stores employ, but is often ignored. Places like No Frills use old shipping boxes in place of bags (not counting if you decide to buy bags). Using a fully recyclable box that already exists as opposed to a reusable bag (which has to be made) is a solution most people don't think of.

W. K. Lis / April 11, 2008 at 01:59 pm
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If they get rid of the plastic bag, what will I do for my "man purse"?
I always reused mine to carry my lunch, books, or drinks when I ride on the TTC or to a medical appointment.
cwd / April 11, 2008 at 02:00 pm
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Hahaha. I love how that movie link has an advertisement for Jeep SUV's. Hilarious.
plasticrap / April 16, 2008 at 10:18 am
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cloth bags are an excellent idea. perhaps we could do away with trash bags altogether and simply have a system where we dump our trash bins directly into the garbage truck. There's just too much plastic in the world, it has to stop. http://www.bestlifeonline.com/cms/publish/travel-leisure/Our_oceans_are_turning_into_plastic_are_we.shtml
Fran / July 30, 2008 at 09:41 am
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To think banning plastic bags is going to make a difference is only looking at one symptom of the problem. It is easy to see evidence of how the plastic industry is dealing with these bans. Walk into any grocery store and try to buy something NOT wrapped in plastic. It's almost impossible. The newest plastic invention - shrink wrapped broccoli and cauliflower. We have done fine without these items covered in plastic until now. What justification has the plastic industry come up with? I cannot even guess.
Leslie replying to a comment from W. K. Lis / May 15, 2009 at 10:44 am
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Maybe rather than using plastic bags for carrying lunches, books or other items, a small back pack would do the trick? I carry my back pack everywhere.
Dot Bonnenfant replying to a comment from Sean Williams / June 2, 2009 at 04:53 pm
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There are MANY reasons for us to STOP using plastic bags!

If you are working towards banning or reducing the use of plastic bags in your community....
You are invited to a Fireside Chat (free Pan-Canadian discussion via telephone/internet - for community health professionals and issue-related sectors)

June 4, 2009 1:00 - 2:30 PM Eastern Time

You will hear directly from Leaf Rapids Manitoba - the first community in North America to ban plastic bags.

For more information and to register: www.chnet-works.ca

Dot Bonnenfant
CHNET-Works! Animateur
animateur@chnet-works.ca
www.chnet-works.ca
University of Ottawa, Community Health Research Unit
kelly / October 24, 2010 at 02:32 pm
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I like the plastic bags. What is the difference between me buying plastic liners for my bathroom waste baskets or reusing the ones from the grocery store. I also use them for other purposes such as cleaning up after my dog. They claim that the dog bags are biodegradable so why can't plastic grocery bags be manufactured using the same process? Are we going to ban the use of large garbage bags as well? What about the problem with contamination from the cloth bags? Do you not thing making cloth bags also come at a cost? No matter what you do there will be a trade off somewhere else.
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