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Petition: Salt vs. Sand

Posted by Jeremy / January 11, 2008

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As those lovely white rings on our pant cuffs and shoes remind us, Toronto uses huge amounts of salt on its roads and sidewalks each year, salt that runs off into our waterways, rusts our cars, and ruins our footwear. While this week's near-tropical temperatures have rid our fair city of most of its wintery precipitation, colder days are on the way, and with them will return the age-old debate of salt vs. sand.

After Environment Canada's 2001 report on the dangers of road salts to our local ecosystems, the Ontario government claims to have reduced its salt use by 20%. But is this enough?

Laurie Varga, a Toronto communications consultant and community activist, doesn't think so. "I'd never encountered [road salt] until I moved here eight years ago," says Varga, a Calgary native who was surprised by the Tdot's salt-happy ways. Her hometown uses mostly sand and gravel to combat slippery roads, an alternative she feels is much more sound. With that in mind, Varga has posted an online petition asking for a ban on road salts, which she plans to present to Mayor Miller and other city officials.

Sand and gravel pose their own problems, ("Everyone in Alberta has chipped windshields from the pea gravel," she says) but compared to the longterm effects of salt pollution, it seems like a small price to pay.

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Discussion

18 Comments

jt / January 11, 2008 at 03:23 pm
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Here in Montreal, where we get SO much more snow than TO, we use a pleasantly black - toned gravel. It works much better than salt, cause it doesnt dissolve and disappear - it stays on the surface, providing longer-term grippage.

what is done for snow removal and salting etc should move into the sustainable era already. salt is like spraying DDt everywhere.
blik / January 11, 2008 at 03:47 pm
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I moved to Toronto from Calgary four years ago and was (and still am) shocked that the city not only uses salt but uses so damn much of it.

Gravel and sand may add extra "dirt" that will need to be cleaned up by the city in spring but the extra grit keeps the roads operational. And it doesn't really get that icey here for very long anyway.

Salt is just bad for everything. Plants, trees, animals, cars, shoes, clothes, concrete, wood, etc.
Ben / January 11, 2008 at 04:07 pm
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It's funny to see this just now. I've been meaning to write Adam Vaughan to complain all week.
SD / January 11, 2008 at 07:14 pm
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Don't sign it!

I've lived here all my life, moved to Calgary for six years and came back recently.
The sand/gravel situation in Calgary is a *nightmare*

Crud everywhere, roads don't get plowed, they get crap tossed on top and compacted in all winter (layer after layer), the entire town looks like the Sahara from March to July while the stuff gets cleaned up, destroyed windshields, destroyed vehicle paint, etc. etc.
Add that to the fact that it barely works for traction (I got stuck on snowy streets more times in 6 years in Calgary than 3 decades in Toronto), and you've got a no brainer.

Stick with the salt.
It works.
It's worked for decades.
Believe me, getting rid of the salt is not going to make a lick of difference in the environmental mess we're already in anyway. It'll just make winter that much more unbearable.
Jenelle / January 11, 2008 at 10:29 pm
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Can I vote for shovelling?
ChrisJackson / January 12, 2008 at 12:16 am
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Get rid of the salt. I don't care about the mess.

I would like to know exactly how much salt we pour onto our streets and sidewalks every year. The figure would probably stun everyone. Sure the city pours salt like the street is a plate of fries, but add to that the average home/small business owner that is worried about liability. The salt ends up in our lake and water table...do we really want to salt our water?

On top of the environmental reasons,the damaged clothing there is the fact that I have to carry my 50 lbd dog when his feet get torn up by excessive salt use. The alternative is to put his boots on. Have you ever tried putting boots on a struggling lab?

Get rid of the F-ing salt or put a dome over the city in the winter...those are our two options.

Rainman / January 12, 2008 at 11:49 am
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Salt, ah the toxic substance that we use despite overwhelming evidence that it harms the environment.
Let's think of MANDATORY winter tires for a start. Goofs who slip and slip in Calgary, Toronto Montreal or wherever clearly don't appreciate they could be missing something besides the ability to drive in winter.

Sand isn't going to be used in Calgary for too long now that lciamte change is making it less effective. Ploughing is important, but so is accepting we live in a winter climate and not Tennessee. It snows here, get over it, use snow tires, slow down a bit, plough, shovel and repeat.

Using salt is a time bomb of ecosystem disaster since the stuff doesn't decay but merely flows as dissolved salt in groundwater or surface water.

Use no salt on you property is like not using pesticides; the right intelligent and sustainable approach. Now all we need is the city's drivers to take that to heart. ONly then will the City Hall hear the message that we want thenm to use less.
Daley / January 12, 2008 at 05:54 pm
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I've been here for the winter from Calgary and well... the gravel and grit of Calgary's solution is much more effective.

Salt is much worse for the environment than all the gravel.

But before either of those methods are used... I would vote for shoveling. If you remove the snow then when it melts it doesn't turn to ice on the sidewalk.
Ingrid / January 12, 2008 at 10:55 pm
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Road salt usage in this city has reached the level of overkill not only by the Cityworks Department but by private maintenance contractors. My personal favourite is how they distribute salt on dry roads and sidewalks in anticipation of snowfall or freezing rain that may or may not happen.
It seems to me that in many instances homeowners take the easy way out when it comes to their responsibility to keep the sidewalks clear in front of their property by throwing great quantities of salt on the sidewalk rather than getting out their shovels and using a little elbow grease.
James / January 13, 2008 at 02:07 pm
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The City, to its credit, has greatly reduced salt usage. Its been switching over to a salt brine spray with gets much more effective coverage with lower concentrations of salt.

To be sure, they need to further reduce their use of salt.

Particularly on side streets with no bus routes, gravel or sand would be a good alternative.

However, private contractors are much worse than the City.

When they salted my apartment building parking lot they turned it white, I would get more than .5kg of salt per parking spot.

It was ridiculous. By anyone's definition, gross overkill, literally and figuratively.

I think making it illegal for contractors to mechanically spread rock salt would be a big step forward. But permit them to use the lower contentration brine for now.

Study to see how much better that makes things. Then, if necessary step up to a full ban.

Geoff / January 13, 2008 at 10:49 pm
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Switching from salt might take awhile given the large investment everyone has made in using it. Trying to legislate it away could prove to be a slow process. However, it is a good start and one worth undertaking now that the Environment is chic.

If one could prove that private/public salt had definitively damaged one's property a successful court case could be won. And then the fear of liability would make all the salt droppers run for something else...
Laurie / January 13, 2008 at 11:15 pm
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I feared I might be the only one who gave a damn about road salt and I am pleasantly surprised to find out that others share my frustration. The suggestions about winter tires and the mysterious, black-toned gravel used in Montreal are excellent, thank you. I too wonder why anyone would risk their lives with all-season radials in the winter.

The worst salt abuse I've seen so far this winter is definitely by Toronto residents who dump, rather than sprinkle, salt on the sidewalk in front of their homes. I've had to go to great lengths to protect my dog's paws on our daily walks. I'm grateful he only weighs 35 pounds and not 50!

I intend to submit my petition to Mr. Miller before the winter is through so make sure every anti-road salt activist you know signs the petition to get this snow ball rolling.
Dustin / February 14, 2008 at 04:06 pm
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As a Public works emmployee for many years i have learned alot about this subject. The City officials and the public will trade alot for safe roads, period. That will never change! So i learned to accept that. Ok, in the early years we would mix 3 parts sand to 1 part salt. Guess what would happen? The plow drivers would have to lay down 3 times as much material to make the ice go away. Now your left with a dirty road. That much sand has worse affects envirenmentally than salt. Here is the deal, run straight salt and in the end you will use less of all material. That is the 100% fact...
Brad / May 29, 2009 at 05:44 pm
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What year did Ontario start using salt on the roads here to control the ice conditions?
Paula / December 1, 2009 at 01:08 pm
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It's strange that so many people who have moved from Calgary to Toronto commented that Calgary does not use salt. Calgary uses a lot of salt. The white all over my car every winter is evidence to that. The City of Calgary's website also comments on when they use salt, which given the last few year's temperatures, seems to be most of the time. Even when it gets a little colder, they use sand mixed with salt. What they have been doing since I have moved here seems to be not very effective. I have lived in other Canadian cities during the winter and have not seen roads as difficult to drive on as Calgary's.
Irina / January 3, 2010 at 11:52 am
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I don't think this should be an exercise in making comparisons between Calgary, Toronto, or any other city. What is at stake here is irreversible environmental damage, not chipped windshields. Neither Calgary nor Toronto should be using rock salt as it is toxic - period. Perhaps gravel/sand needs to be ground more finely to avoid vehicle damage, but a chipped windshield is a small price to pay for a salt-free environment.
Mark / November 15, 2011 at 01:28 pm
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I have lived in Calgary for 4 years now and I cannot believe how much salt this city has started using. Talked to my alderman and he said that the city has started using way more salt and calcium chloride over the last 2-3 years. In my opinion the city is not managing the application of road salts very well. They go way over board!!! No body seems to care about the long term effects on the environment, infrastructure, etc....I realize that in some cases the controlled use of road salts is effective but at the present time the city of Calgary is just being wasteful and reckless.
David Russell / August 21, 2012 at 02:40 pm
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I never encountered road salt until I moved to a place called Rexburg, Idaho. I no longer live there and I don't mind that at all! Every winter big trucks would spread salt, sand and gravel on the roads. The salt ruins clothes, streets, and cars and the gravel always left big chips in my windshield on my car. It would be better to spend money on snow plows than to have trucks to spread the debris and machines to clean the streets up in the summer.

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