Raccoon-Proof Green Bins: Fact or Fiction? (Part 2)

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Photo: TerraS

Last month I asked you all how you've coped with raccoons and green bins and was astounded by the wide range of your proposed solutions, from special clips to dog poop to harpoons to industrial grade bins.

"I find it helpful to my morale to think of the process in terms not of keeping raccoons out of the garbage, but rather breeding smarter raccoons for our squirrel overlords," says Toronto resident, John Chew.

Photos and tips beyond the jump...

John points out that if you keep your green bins in an insecure location ("raccoons can learn how to operate garage door openers, beware"), you need to do two things: "First, you need to keep the bins upright, because if they can be knocked over; a mature raccoon can jump up and down on it until the plastic breaks. We use a series of bungee cords for this, replacing them as the raccoons and squirrels gnaw through them. Second, you need to keep the lid shut. The clip straps are great for this; we haven't had any raccoon feedings since we installed them half a year ago."

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Photo above courtesy John Chew, who points out the salient features in the picture:

"1. Raccoon Check (TM) strap, available from Home Hardware.

2. Bungee cord to prevent "knock it over and jump on it until it cracks" technique. Note that cord is almost chewed through and needs to be replaced.

3. Blue box is a red herring - we used to secure the blue box to the rail too, but now they think it doesn't move, so we don't have to. It's also handy for catching spills when the raccoons do get in, typically because the cleaning lady doesn't enable feature #1.

4. Metal raccoon chimes alert us to raccoon intruders, at least on a calm day."

One of the problems with the green bin is that the latch just doesn't keep out raccoons. I called the City Of Toronto Waste Management Services who said that for $9, you can buy an extra latch that should work. You can get them at recycling container pick-up locations and Community Environment Days (but not Home Hardware stores, sadly).

Several of you just keep your garbage and green bins inside, then take it out in the morning. Gloria, for example, says she keeps her garbage bins inside a stout shack. "It's not pretty, but no overspilled bins in a long time."

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Photo courtesy Roger Cullman - (see his baby raccoon photo set here)

Scott hangs his green bin off two hooks on the back wall of the house and says this method works pretty well. "It's a different story when the bin hits the curb the night before and they get in and throw crap all over the sidewalk. That's the part I haven't figured out."

Like Scott, Graham hangs his green bin on the wall. "The raccoons still get in to dine on our food waste, after they dig through all the kitty litter, but they don't get knocked over making a mess. There might be some spillage once in a while or you might open the lid to find one feasting, but otherwise it works great."

Katie uses a buckle clip (the hard plastic clips that are used on backpacks, car seats, etc.) from Home Hardware, which she screws onto their green bin: one part on the lid, one part on the base. "We keep it clipped together until moments before the garbage truck pulls up. It works like a charm."

Arieh Singer puts a heavy recycling bin on top of the green bin, which keeps the raccoons from tipping the bin over.

Bob says he ended up getting a bin from Binsolutions.ca (4059 Chesswood Drive North York, ph: 416-849-2467, fax: 416-850-3204). The company has a wide variety of nice-looking bins of various sizes and types, if you're willing to shell out the bucks. I contacted Matthew Redman from Bin Solutions, who says they'll also be adding new products starting next year for those affected by the City of Toronto's new solid waste management system.

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Photo courtesy Binsolutions.ca

Tony has found an industrial-strength green bin. "The locking mechanism is extremely difficult to pry open (I usually have to pound on it with the ball of my hand to lock it) - they've knocked it over once or twice, but have never managed to get into it. For now, I am the victor!"

Caroline says that after trying bungee cords, pie plates, and motion-activated lights, she finally resorted to keeping all her garbage in a locked shed.

Ryan C. helpfully suggests that harpoons work really well.

Dini's neighbours wedge their green bin under the deck stairs. Apparently they have trouble getting it out, though the raccoons seem to have no problem.

Mark Dowling suggests using a bungee cord wrapped from under the lid to the little notch at the base of the back of the bin.

Sheryl says that dog poop does the trick. "We used to have a raccoon party in our yard every night but they never touched the green bin, even when the lid wasn't secured. The reason - we disposed of our dog's crap in the bin as well (as is permitted under city by-laws) and the 'Rakkins' ('cause you've got to throw in a Trailer Park Boys reference every now and then) wouldn't go near the thing. Get a dog, borrow a dog, or leave the green bin at the curb an extra day, inviting local dog walkers to dispose of their stuff in your bin."

Steve M., however, says that dog poop is a very good repellent but it doesn't always work. "I used to bungee my bin to the railing at our back door and then just use the clasp to keep the lid sealed. As long as they couldn't knock over the bin, they couldn't pop the clasp."

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Photo courtesy: Walter Korynkiewicz.

Some of you claim that the trick is the arrangement of bungee cords. From Jeremy: "I'm currently using bungees, and it's working great. The secret is in how you hook them up. :) I take a single stout one, about 4' in length. Fold it in half and insert the loop through the handle. Put both ends through the loop, and wrap around under the lip to connect to the latch at the front. Hasn't been defeated yet (fingers crossed). Now if I can just get the garbage guys not to show up when I'm in the shower..."

In addition to all your ideas, I found some helpful resources online:

Paul's Super Ultimate Raccoon-Proofing Guide

Trash Talking: Raccoons find Green Bins are meals on wheels: This Toronto Sun article suggests using a special buckle-strap called Raccoon Check, available from Home Hardware for under $8. See photo by John Chew near the top of this post to see this in action.

How to keep Raccoons Out Of A Trash Can: from eHow.com.

Raccoons and Your Home: tips from the Toronto Humane Society. To the over-enthusiastic: please note that it's illegal to trap or poison wildlife.

Do you have a solution not listed above? Please do post it below!

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Three additional solutions worth considering:

1. Provide other food sources for local raccoons. We maintain bowls of kibble for stray cats, which the raccoons share. Why not think of raccoons as our urban avatars / commensals rather than as pests? It's a gentle charity to provide food.

2. Eat less meat, or wrap it to reduce odours.

3. Start (or resume) using a backyard composter. It's easy, efficient, more ecologically responsible, and less likely to attract pests.

We live in a high density raccoon neighbourhood, and yet our green bin has been scavenged only once or twice (most notably after a garden party involving plenty of barbecued meat). We don't even secure the latch.

Posted by: Amy Lavender Harris at July 6, 2007 6:46 PM

The raccoons in our neighbourhood gnaw through bungee cords, so it doesn't matter how you arrange the cords, but rather how often you replace them.

From a pest-control point-of-view, it doesn't matter whether you put your meat in your green bin or your composter, they'll smell it and try to get it out. I find the green bin easier to secure, so what meat scraps we do generate end up there. It also keeps the flies from growing their maggots in the composter, and the wasps from coming by to parasitize the maggots.

We haven't fed stray cats ever since we inadvertently temporarily adopted one, who compared the barbecued salmon we were serving to the dried cat food back home and moved out. We don't feed raccoons because they are not housetrained, and I don't like scooping their poop.

One important recent development to my anti-raccoon arsenal above, by the way: they've figured out how to slip the clip straps loose, so I'm going to have to cinch them and then staple them tight, or maybe put another bolt through the strap where it's doubled.

Posted by: John Chew at July 20, 2007 1:47 AM

I get raccoon visits daily - they even wait for us to put stuff into the green bin and then try to get in. It took the raccoons in myarea less than a week to figure out how to open the green bin and now they open it in seconds. The only things the work, other than keeping the bins in a locked facility are various combinations of bungee cords. What I don't undertand is why the city continues to give out the existing green bins. Why don't they finally hand out a better designed bin, as replacements for broken bins? 

I have written to both my Councillor and the Mayor and the answer that I get from them and Solid Waste Management is that they rarely get complaints about raccoons. They have told me that I am one of the few people with a problem. 

I don't undertsand why everyone is just accepting another very poor implementation by Solid Waste Management staff and their team of consultants. You realize that we paid a team of consultants tens of thousands of dollars to develop the Green Bin, ensure that it was Raccoon proof, do a pilot project and then survey the people who participated in the pilot. According to their survey their were no problems with raccoons getting into the green bin. I have some friends who participated in the pilot and they told me just the opposite. So it looks like the consultants tailored the survey to get the answer they wanted, which was that the bin that they had designed was raccoon proof. We all know that it is not.

Do you realize that these consulatnts were never held accountable for their mistake? Do you realize that Solid Waste Management continues to hire consultants and never holds them responsible for the quality of their work?

We need to ensure that all city management staff and consultants are held accountable. If we don't, then these people will continue to waste our money and continue to have to raise taxes to pay for their mistakes.

Everyone should write their councillor and the mayor and make this an issue. We need to ensure that these types of mistakes don't keep happening, unless of course you don't mind paying an increased portion of your take home pay for the mistakes made by the politicians and senior management. 

 

  

Posted by: Adolph Kahan at August 6, 2007 8:54 AM

The manufacturer of the green bin is Norseman Plastics. The Product Line Manager is Doug Hill dhill@norsemanplastics.com and the CEO is Walter Raghunathan walter@norsemanplastics.com.

You should let both of these gentlemen know what you think of their product.  

 

Posted by: Adolph Kahan at August 6, 2007 9:32 AM

I am an old retired guy, an amateur naturalist, who has been trying to keep raccoons out of his garbage for some time. They are a marvelous little creature, admirably evolved for a life along the creek. For instance, my hot tub lid collects water. So Rainbow, as my daughter christened one of our local raccoons, probes around in it
like any other puddle, and being armed with sharp claws and genetic raccoon behaviour, manages to dig a hole in it and starts pulling out all the insulation. Rainbow was absolutely certain that there had to be a crayfish, worm or clam in there someplace!
Four years ago, Rainbow managed to move into our under back deck apartment. We stalked him and with a hot-dog baited trap, caught him. Being good naturalists, we drove him to Todmorton Mills near the Bayview, where there is a nice creek for raccoons and a good art school as well.
The next night, my wife noticed that even though it was dark outside, the little birds were still chirping. However, it seemed to be coming from under our back deck. We spent the next day dropping food through the cracks to our three new responsibilities and figuring out
how to get the deck apart. Should we call the Humane Society? The Fire Department? However, all our problems were solved that night: Mrs. Rainbow came back. We figure she must have used radar, the better way, or the secret Raccoon Nature Trails because we live near Woodbine and Queen. We opened a little doorway and waited 3 years to humanely evict them.
Finally, they all moved out and, using, concrete, stone, brick, heavy wire screening, lots of wood and sweat, I sealed all entrances, exits, etc. to the back under deck apartment. While cleaning up, I found an
awful mess, including what looked like a dead squirrel.

Later, being a nerdy librarian and a naturally curious person, I looked up Prociyon lotor (raccoon) on Wikipedia. I am always looking up things - comes from having a secret identity as a Reference Libarian.

I found it ineresting until I found Raccoon Roundworm.

Look it up. You will never think about raccoons the same way again.

Posted by: Glenn Sinclair at September 1, 2007 9:09 PM

I have a new product that keeps out raccoon and other critters. It is new on the market.

http://www.oscarnet.ca

It works!

Posted by: David Brunning at July 22, 2008 8:22 AM

I've tried the oscarnet! It saved my yard! it's definitly worth trying. i was always cleaning up after the animals, i got my oscar net a month ago and havent had a problem since.

Posted by: Irene at August 19, 2008 9:35 AM

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