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Jilly's to close as developer buys Broadview Hotel

Posted by Derek Flack / May 13, 2014

Jillys Broadview HotelIt's the end of an era in Riverside, as Streetcar Developments has bought the Broadview House Hotel. The change of ownership will see the departure of Jilly's strip club, long thought to be a damper on gentrification efforts in the area. Of crucial note in these early stages is that Streetcar, while known for its loft-based condo developments, is saying that it does not intend to go this way with the historic property.

"Although rooted in loft development, Streetcar does not see this building as a residential condominium project," reads a press release distributed this morning. "We are in the early stages of planning, but our focus is to revive this building to a landmark everyone in the area can be proud of." So will this be the Gladstone/Drake East? Concrete plans have, of course, yet to be revealed, but we know that the developer's first priority is to restore to the structural integrity of the building, which has seen its better days.

Broadview HotelSpeculation as to what would become of the building, which dates back to 1893, has been swirling for years. With Jilly's soon to be out of the picture, the property could, once again, prove to be an anchor for Riverside, a neighbourhood that's seen plenty of development over the last half decade. One suspects the growth will only increase now that the old strip club is set to shutter.

As for when Jilly's will actually close, there's no set date, but it sounds like there's at least some urgency to the process of rehabilitating the hotel. "Streetcar is still in early stages of planning and looking at mixed use options but the first priority is safety," a company representative told us by email. "The city has determined that this building is unsafe for habitation so Streetcar is working with the tenant (Jilly's) to ensure the move is as fast as possible and done with care."

What would you like to see become of the heritage property?

Second photo of the Broadview Hotel in 1945 via the Toronto Archives



KevinN / May 13, 2014 at 09:12 am
I'm hoping I can snag the sign or lights...
Leah / May 13, 2014 at 09:24 am
This is a great opportunity for a new light to Riverside! I'd say go down the list and see what there isn't in this area (theres about a hand full of cupcake shops, a new Irish pub, dark horse cafe). So whats missing?
eggs replying to a comment from Leah / May 13, 2014 at 09:30 am
Commercial office space.
Jacob / May 13, 2014 at 09:30 am
If it does become "Gladstone East", that could be a huge catalyst for the area.

Although I've got nothing against strip clubs, they have to be in the right area. This one has become a big sore thumb sticking out in an emerging neighbourhood.
Sally D Kelly / May 13, 2014 at 09:43 am
There are a lot of people living in the Broadview hotel who cannot afford anywhere else. Wonder where they are going to go ....
Guess What replying to a comment from Sally D Kelly / May 13, 2014 at 09:54 am
Sally D Kelly they are going to live on the streets.
Guess What replying to a comment from Sally D Kelly / May 13, 2014 at 09:56 am
I hope whoever takes those new office spaces will be forever haunted by the souls of the people who will die on the streets because they now have nowhere to go.
AC / May 13, 2014 at 09:59 am
Drake/Gladstone east would be awesome! As I kid growing up I was always around that drag of a stripclub. I'm excited to see the new developments of this area for sure
Gerry Ard / May 13, 2014 at 10:06 am
Maybe all the "residents" should be moved to the Drake. They would be an instant improvement over the hipster trash that has infested the Queen/Dovercourt 'hood over the last 10 years.
nope / May 13, 2014 at 10:07 am
Anything but a Drake typed place.

Hotel a the very, very least.

But nothing that even remotely resembles what The Drake is.
Leslievillian / May 13, 2014 at 10:10 am
This is great news. I was disappointed when I saw streetcar but I am optimistic that there will be no 'accident' in the restoration efforts and that riverside leslieville will finally have a boutique hotel/concert venue it needs to make it awesome.
Drakula / May 13, 2014 at 10:25 am
I hope it does become Drake East and sucks up all the bottom feeders that crash West Queen West in their search for the newest hip s*ithole.
Jillys / May 13, 2014 at 10:28 am
Ahhh Jillys, where there's a special on crabs 7 days a week.
mike in parkdale / May 13, 2014 at 10:29 am
Watching the doc "Last Call at the Gladstone Hotel" (2007) should be mandatory for everyone involved with the redevelopment.
Tim replying to a comment from mike in parkdale / May 13, 2014 at 10:36 am
Why? Are we supposed to feel sorry for the residents and stop progress? Isn't the Gladstone now a neighborhood jem as opposed to a neighborhood dive?

Also a good watch is the doc Lost Bohemia about the long time residents at Carnegie Hall that were evicted.
eastender / May 13, 2014 at 10:59 am
Reading lots of comments mostly sarcastic regarding the occupants of the hotel and jilly's itself. What everyone should realize is that the city still has this amazing building by virtue of what had occupied it for so long, and that businesses ability to remain profitable. If you think that building would still be there had it not been a strip club throughout the 80s and 90s you're sorely mistaken.

Happy to see it's not going to be used for condo development, Interested to see what becomes of it.
how long until the Royal Canadian Curling Club is torn down for a glass box?
eastender replying to a comment from AC / May 13, 2014 at 11:03 am
Another Drake would be a disaster for the residents in this area...we don't want hipsters vomiting at 3am and tons of cabs idling at the corner...the beards have crossed the bridge...
Leslievillian replying to a comment from eastender / May 13, 2014 at 11:08 am
Sour much? Who hurt you?
no chance replying to a comment from eastender / May 13, 2014 at 11:10 am
Curling club isnt going anywhere.

They rent out their property to the daycare attached to it.

Not a chance in hell they will close the daycare for a condo.
sonofkhan / May 13, 2014 at 11:12 am
Gladstone or Drake East?? Yeah, make it hipster d-bag central. Yukk

The building's brickwork is amazingly beautiful. It deserves more than to be the home of some plaid shirt and tight jean pants wearing bearded buffoon with nerdy glasses.
eastender replying to a comment from no chance / May 13, 2014 at 11:13 am
ah happy day!
mike in parkdale replying to a comment from Tim / May 13, 2014 at 11:20 am
"Why? Are we supposed to feel sorry for the residents and stop progress? Isn't the Gladstone now a neighborhood jem as opposed to a neighborhood dive?"

yes, that's the take away. You can have progress while being sensitive to the people who currently live there. You can make something new while respecting what was there before. The worst case situation would simply put all the residents out on their asses without any compassion or understanding. That should be the take away - redevelopment needs to happen in sync with the community.
The RP replying to a comment from mike in parkdale / May 13, 2014 at 11:26 am
But throwing people out on their asses has worked wonders over in Regent Park.
Look how great it is now.
Yep! / May 13, 2014 at 11:30 am
mike in parkdale

One of the saddest documentories I've ever seen. The Gladstones not doing so hot these days either, but the neighborhood is under-developed (chicken before the egg syndrome). Riverside is different. They're already developed (not that they're done). It would be nice if social workers could attend to the needs of borders, to get them settled elsewhere. I'm not sure how much power the owners would have over that anyways, because the choice to seek help is up to them. The way people were living at the Gladstone, by choice, was sad, but it doesn't mean they can stand in the way of new owners and their plans. These things happen. People sell their properties all the time in Toronto or buildings become condemned. The building as it stands now is unfit for habitation. I'm sure if the strip club owners could have afforded to fix it, they would have (but, it makes me wonder, though, where was public health and MLS all these years, to allow the original owner the luxury of letting this building fall into the state of disrepair it's in now).

What I would like to see is some kind of intervention on behalf of the current residents. Please don't leave it to the last minute. If they won't accept help, at least make sure notices descibing the help available to them is well displayed throughout. Find out what help the local city councillor is able to offer.

As far as new plans for the building, a highend classic arts school would be nice (think Stratford, culinary arts, ballet, opera, plays, and symphonies). A school like this could add to the ambience of the neighborhood with students trying out their talents during yearly street festivals. The school shouldn't be limited to the rich. I would like to see grants/loans made available to those below a certain income bracket.
nippleholic replying to a comment from AC / May 13, 2014 at 11:38 am
As someone else who grew up in the neighbourhood, I've got mixed feelings about this. Jilly's is one of those vestiges from my childhood that made up a good chunk of the character of the area. However, it's probably been years overdue for this property to get a makeover and I'm looking forward to whatever replaces Jilly's.

RIP Jilly's!
Julia replying to a comment from Gerry Ard / May 13, 2014 at 11:42 am
Hipster Trash? You have no idea what you are talking about! Oh my God, why are so many people against the Drake Hotel? There is quite a bit of stereotyping going on here. It is artsy, unassuming, unique and interesting and not at all slick in the way I'm sure we all resent. We can only hope that the developers are sensitive to the history of the Jilly's building and thank god there will be no condo lofts! Having said that, art alone will not keep it afloat and there will have to be a pub or restaurant of some kind. What about a nice diner where you can get pancakes and eggs at all hours? The area needs one.
Eastside / May 13, 2014 at 12:08 pm
I think all efforts should be made to maintain a local vibe, and as much as I prefer no big box stores, the area could benefit from a small scale grocery store. Or maybe residents feel they have all the amenities covered off? What about a gym? I know boring but I think we could always use more of these to promote healthy lifestyles (rather than more cupcake and burger joints). You could have yoga, pilates, martial arts, spinning, dance classes, etc all offered at this location. What about something like the TIFF building on King? There could be a restaurant on the bottom but the upper levels could host various businesses from the community, whether that is music/the arts, fashion, tech start-ups etc. It would be ideal that the entire building be open to the public, or accessible, meaning services we could all use. Maybe host a non-profit and proceeds from the restaurant would help fund or pay the rent. I agree that an educational facility would be great. George Brown does well with their chef program, could we establish something here that is similar? Everyone should share their opinions so that Streetcar can consider them as part of their evaluation. Every voice counts so be heard!
local resident / May 13, 2014 at 12:15 pm
I live in the area and I think it's inevitable that this will be redeveloped into something to serve the gentrifying class. That said, and without casting judgment (I'm a gentrifier myself), I'm interested to see how it works out.

Anyone who walks on the stretch of Queen St. between Broadview and DeGrassi knows that there are a lot of vacant storefronts. Businesses don't seem to last very long here. Long-time businesses can't afford the rents the building owners seem to think they can charge and the market just doesn't seem to be there for the new stuff (cupcakes, artisanal cheese, whatever). It's an interesting predicament.
sonofkhan replying to a comment from Eastside / May 13, 2014 at 12:22 pm
Why do people make such blanket statements like "no big box stores"?

Do you think people in Leslieville enjoy seeing a closed up gas station that was built to be a TV set and used for exactly one episode before it was cancelled...or to see a brick clad Wal-Mart that would have looked like townhouses from the exterior? They still got a the Wal-Mart up the street at Gerrard Square that moved in instead of Zellers. Paula ex-Manitoba commie Fletcher sent out an email blast to her constituents apologizing and saying there was nothing she could do against it. Because stopping progress is apparently why she is in office. They don't mind having the Canadian Tire near by or the Loblaws even though it doesn't have sidewalk access. Neither does Gerrard Square even though it promised to do so. You cannot enter the mall or Loblaws without first crossing through the parking lot.

Do you know what would go really well in the areas behind and just west of the Broadview Hotel? A mini Ikea. Yup I said it. Imagine a small Ikea that has a brick exterior, with storefronts leased to small stores or restaurants. It can even offer reduced delivery to people living withing a certain distance from the store, being a better neighbour in the process.
Local / May 13, 2014 at 12:26 pm
I would hate to see all the hipsters come east. It would really be sad if it was turned into the Gladstone/Drake of the east. Maybe a nice restaurant with offices lol Just keep the hipsters and scenesters in west :)
I / May 13, 2014 at 12:30 pm
Guys, I miss the Avro.
minks / May 13, 2014 at 12:39 pm
Nooooo, Jigglies! As a long time resident all i can do is sigh and shake my head. Streetcar is terrible and the buildings over at Davies and Carol are proof. Fugly. Ah well, least the building is less likely to burn down now.

As for everyone worried about hipster trash, well, too late. Have you been down to Q/B at night? That shyte "irish" pub that booted out Real Jerk, the overpriced BS restos that infest the rest of the strip going east… I miss my old hood sometimes and wish redevelopment was made with at least some consideration of the social fabric of these communities. Instead it's all fluffy promises up front and sell, sell, sell to the highest bidder once the permits are in place. Once that happens the same boring chains open up (because smaller independents can't survive with the sky rocketing rents).
sonofkhan replying to a comment from minks / May 13, 2014 at 12:46 pm
You're right about the shyte restaurants east of there. You know its ideologically driven hipster places when they say upfront that they don't accept credit card and "never will" and that they don't sell bottled water. I don't go out and spend money to be part of some social movement.
Randal Eastern Ave replying to a comment from Julia / May 13, 2014 at 01:03 pm
Because we are against the arts in the East end, keep the arts in the west. We don't want a multi room venue of food, music, art shows, kids shows etc. in the east end like the Drake.

We have the Duke if we need to go get pissed.

We don't like or support the arts or the young hipsters that come along with it!!
rippers replying to a comment from Yep! / May 13, 2014 at 01:06 pm
It's already a "highend classic arts school" specialized in the artistry and magic of the urban ballet.
Mass Culture / May 13, 2014 at 01:08 pm
Kind of amazes me how the most reactionary, truly "conservative" statements I read on this page are from those who want to preserve the character surrounding a seedy strip club.
so good. / May 13, 2014 at 01:10 pm
Man, who else here loves the brisket at AFT !!!!
whatiswrongwithyouall / May 13, 2014 at 01:21 pm
i can't stand the hipster hate. a lot of the people you call that are the lifeblood of culture in this town and I can guarantee they don't spend a second of their lives hating on others like you guys do. the drake is a great venue for the arts. it adds to this city. deal with it. the east could definitely benefit from something like this
cosmosuave replying to a comment from local resident / May 13, 2014 at 01:26 pm
Vacant store fronts are most likely due to leases expiring and the landlord asking for more money to renew... Pretty sure that is what happened to the Avro...
Big Booty replying to a comment from minks / May 13, 2014 at 01:37 pm
Well, you still have the Tasty Chicken House. Enjoy.
sonofkhan replying to a comment from whatiswrongwithyouall / May 13, 2014 at 01:39 pm
"lifeblood of culture in this town and I can guarantee they don't spend a second of their lives hating on others like you guys do"


Really? The whole hipster "culture" is to look down one's nose at what they perceive to be the norm and then for them to do otherwise. Have you ever tried talking about politics or pop culture to a hipster?
Joey / May 13, 2014 at 02:24 pm
/r/toronto will be so sad to see their favourite joke demolished
Rico replying to a comment from Guess What / May 13, 2014 at 02:38 pm
Hey I have an idea. Maybe they can live at your place. Or, in a place that's affordable instead of downtown Toronto. What a concept!
Rico replying to a comment from Yep! / May 13, 2014 at 02:50 pm
Yer not big on business, are ya? There's too much fashionista artista hipster gender-swirling confusion going on to begin with. No more beards, for men OR women. Artsies should take over the Tasty Chicken House and other dives, since that's what they like. Then they too can change over.
GUESS WHAT replying to a comment from Rico / May 13, 2014 at 02:58 pm
Hey Rico I have an idea, why don't yuppie scumbags move back up to Lawrence or Eglinton where they can live "safely". That way Toronto will remain affordable for all of us.
safa / May 13, 2014 at 03:09 pm
an old style burlesque/jazz bar/hotel !
Leslievillian replying to a comment from sonofkhan / May 13, 2014 at 03:31 pm
Really. You're view of what a hipster is is from a very sad safe distance. The idea that someone grows a beard and drinks craft beer so they must look down on others comes from a very sheltered viewpoint. people are people. there are just as many 'norms' or 'basics' who put their nose up to hipsters as vice versa. I'd venture moreso. end of the day the are all stupid labels and you would have to be a pathetic person to judge a person based on either categorization.
sonofkhan replying to a comment from Leslievillian / May 13, 2014 at 03:40 pm
They label us. Thats the whole point of their existence in that sub culture. For the most part they are not willing to engage "other" people. I don't put a distance between me and them. If there is one then they put it there.
Rico replying to a comment from GUESS WHAT / May 13, 2014 at 03:48 pm
Hilarious. How about you get a job and find something you can afford? Nobody owes you anything. Leslieville is a true market. If you don't like it, then move, but don't expect other people to make way for you because you can't afford it. Oh, and if I move, my house goes at market price, which has seen major growth over the past 10 years. You will have to absorb that, because my house is no charity. I guess that type of reasoning is the very foundation of socialism.
sonofkhan is... / May 13, 2014 at 04:17 pm
Reg / May 13, 2014 at 04:34 pm
Have we forgotten that we're talking about a strip bar, that provides nothing to the community?
easy pal replying to a comment from Reg / May 13, 2014 at 04:35 pm
tell that to my crotch.

sonofkhan replying to a comment from Rico / May 13, 2014 at 05:03 pm
Well said.
Rico replying to a comment from Reg / May 13, 2014 at 05:09 pm
Hold on a sec, Reg. Somebody once told me it's imperative we keep Jilly's because it's the only place where some people can perform their art.
hmm? replying to a comment from whatiswrongwithyouall / May 13, 2014 at 05:10 pm
One of the primary functions of a hipster is to hate on other things, such as what they loved yesterday.
Jordan Grant / May 13, 2014 at 05:28 pm
Are the people who criticised the Drake and Gladstone hotels serious? I'm more familiar with the Gladstone than the Drake and can only say it would be fantastic to repeat that model in the east end.
The Gladstone's owners preserved and lovingly restored their historic building and returned it to its original use - a hotel, but with a twist - it's now an "art hotel" featuring artworks throughout the building and hosting numerous guest exhibitions. It's become a local meeting/dining place as well as a great character place to stay for out-of-town guests.
Queen East is becoming a vibrant arts community with numerous small galleries run by local artists who have moved to the area. The conversion of the Broadview Hotel to an arts hotel similar to the Gladstone (or the Listel in Vancouver) would be the ideal anchor to further enliven the neighbourhood.
Right now if my parents (who live in BC) come to visit, they have to stay at a downtown hotel, as we have nothing decent east of the Don Valley. It would be fantastic if we could host them right in the neighbourhood in a fantastic boutique hotel. This would be an economic boost to the area too.
sonofkhan replying to a comment from Jordan Grant / May 13, 2014 at 05:48 pm
Why do you assume we oppose restoring the building?And what in god's name is an "Arts community"?

Do you think your teenage kids will find summer employment in a store in an "arts community" or in a store that is actually a store? Local artists may sound great but what do they actually do? Do they expect discounted rent like Mihevc got for them at Wynchwood Barns?
Simon / May 13, 2014 at 05:59 pm
Having lived in this area for 20 years and own a business in Riverside, I am well aware of the discussions regarding Jilly's and the neighbourhood. First of all, the building was near collapse a few months ago and without significant emergency intervention it could have been a deadly situation. All the low income residents living there are in a building that is currently unsafe and they would be displaced soon even if the sale to Streetcar Developments did not occur. I think we need to reserve judgement until we know precisely what is decided on for the building. Any neighbourhood that undergoes gentrification displaces people and businesses. If you want independent business to survive in Riverside, then people and workers need to get out and support. Big chain businesses move in where they see opportunity. If Starbucks or Tim Hortons opened at Queen and Broadview I know of a number of businesses that would be displaced as a result. That is because customers will now support that Starbucks and leave Dark Horse Coffee struggling to compete, for example. Ultimately it is the residents and workers in the neighbourhood thst shape that neighbourhood.
Whatever happens to the building let's hope the ideas only work to improve the neighbourhood.
Fingers crossed / May 13, 2014 at 07:23 pm
I hoping for a St. Hubert's.
Thomas / May 13, 2014 at 07:24 pm
I'd like to see a Dakota Tavern in the Jillys spot.
Some great live music and Bluegrass Brunch
For the families of Riverside would be a welcome addition.
Trini / May 13, 2014 at 09:21 pm
Any businesses that have opened along this strip in the past 10 years need to get out!!!! They are all part of the gentrification, brinmgimg in coffee shops, brunch spots and sandwich shops GET OUT!!!!
Al / May 13, 2014 at 09:24 pm
Where are east end alcoholics supposed to go anymore? We used to have so many dive bars, and dive Asian restaurants that you could just sit in and drink all day for cheap. Now everything's all fancy and +$5 for one drink....
hmmm? / May 13, 2014 at 09:26 pm
One of the primary functions of non hipsters, is to hate on hipsters without knowing them personally but to judge them solely on how they look.
Big Johnson / May 13, 2014 at 10:46 pm
Regentrification....I hope they give us a new upscale strip club! I like boobies!
Ray / May 14, 2014 at 12:11 am
WOW those street car tracks are a fixie nightmare! I will NOT be travelling out east this summer.
Rachel replying to a comment from I / May 14, 2014 at 02:37 am
Thanks man, me too. This neighborhood is surely changing. All I can hope is that this new development stays with the charm of the neighborhood. The friendly 'small town' charm that locals love. Change is inevitable, but I hope that Riverside will always be quirky and inviting. It's what makes us so special.
DDLOVER / May 14, 2014 at 08:50 am
So long as they don't BLEEP with Dangerous Dan's Diner or the building across the street from Jilly' the burgers are always bigger and better at the Double D.

And um that "hotel" hasn't been fit for habitation for about a good 7 years now at least. Rampant pest infestations of bedbugs, cockroaches and even rodents---structural integrity issues all over the place.

Only people who lived there were people on welfare who prefer to live alone---but for $500 a month they got a pest infested slum closet to live in---no kitchen facilities, not even a fridge---shared washrooms (NASTY as they are almost never ever cleaned) and coin operated laundry machines that don't ever get hot enough to kill bedbugs.

The City has KNOWINGLY let this slumlord keep renting that place out for years despite several glaring infractions---and then still telling all the welfare folks that the $500 a month rent is a little on the "high" side---like where can one find a room any cheaper?!

Feel for the residents as per usual they are going to get shafted, especially since I doubt much work will be done on the property til Summer 2015 at the earliest.
Yep! / May 14, 2014 at 09:10 am
Businesses that don't use debit or credit cards don't pay taxes (or skimp on them-fudge their numbers). AVOID them altogether. They're not contributers to your community.

Councillor Fletcher should deal with businesses like these, not run interferance for them.

FYI: Fletcher has the nastiest secretary in the city.
Yep! / May 14, 2014 at 09:11 am
Businesses that don't use debit or credit cards don't pay taxes (or skimp on them-fudge their numbers). AVOID them altogether. They're not contributers to your community.

Councillor Fletcher should deal with businesses like these, not run interferance for them.

FYI: Fletcher has the nastiest secretary in the city.
timmeh / May 14, 2014 at 09:12 am
Ahhh Jillys. I shall look back at her lovely ladies, over priced beer and stepped on cocaine with a fondness that could only have been nurtured through utter inebriation.

Sleep the sleep of giants my love.
Yep! / May 14, 2014 at 09:52 am
rippers: ???

Rico: Not too bright yourself. My idea of classic arts has nothing to do with the "hipster" movement.

Yes, I'm very good in matters of business. That's why I know that cupcake boutiques will never do well in this neighborhood.

If you people want something for your neighborhood I suggest you quit bickering with each other and state clearly exactly what YOU would like to see at this location. Your request should start with "I would like to see...". Live a little, dream big. Or dream a little and live big. Speak now, before you end up with something you don't need or want.
Mike replying to a comment from Yep! / May 14, 2014 at 10:01 am
Well Fletcher learned her commie ways back in Manitoba.
Mike replying to a comment from DDLOVER / May 14, 2014 at 10:10 am
One wonders what the neighbours will do once the construction starts. The rats and other vermin inside The Broadview Hotel will flee the building and spread through the rest of the neighbourhood.
Strippers work fine west of Spadine / May 14, 2014 at 10:41 am
So explain how having For Your Eyes Only is completely acceptable in such a yuppie neighborhood as King West, yet Jillys cannot survive in a neighborhood that is far less pretentious, more working class, etc?

All Jillys needed to do was re-brand itself as Jillians, give the property a make over and blend in seamlessly with its surroundings.
Mike replying to a comment from Fingers crossed / May 14, 2014 at 10:42 am
I thought St Hubert no longer operates in Ontario. Are you telling me that there is still great chicken left somewhere in Toronto?
Darius / May 14, 2014 at 10:53 am
This is great news, and looking forward to what comes next. As a local resident, I would love to see:

- A higher quality grocery store .. maybe Sobey's Urban Market or whatever the brand is. Today, I have to leave South Riverdale to do proper groceries, which is too bad.
- A proper gym (to complement the existing studio's in the area) .. though Dwell just opened up?
- Start-up space .. MaRS East or something .. it'd drive up the lunch traffic of the local restaurants.
- Thumbs up for the mini-Ikea suggestion from another SonofKhan.
- ServiceOntario kiosk
- A proper Polish or Jewish deli

Already have the Opera House, and Boots n' Bourbon is becoming a really solid live music venue in its own right. Not sure if a Drake-type establishment would do well.
Alas there is not. replying to a comment from Mike / May 14, 2014 at 11:30 am
No, merely a pipe.
Eastside replying to a comment from Darius / May 14, 2014 at 01:26 pm
This is exactly what I envision. I'm okay with retail corporations setting up shop, just downscale the operation to fit the community. Fresh & Wild, Sobey's, Fresh & Co all have examples for simple grocery storefronts. The big box stores (which can be defined as any large scale retail operation set-up as an anchor to a mall or shopping plaza and with a national presence or franchises and likely involve a parking lot; or any other definition that can be found referencing a textbook or wiki) have already learned that this is an out-dated model for urban centers and hence the push to open up smaller stores. Canadian Tire, Loblaws and I'm sure others are all on this wave length. PS this topic has been covered by strategists and marketing experts.

For tech start ups a mini MARS center would be great. We need to support more of these and there is a trend of Silicon Valley moving east with NYC already establishing tech players like Foursquare, Google, Etsy, and niche players too. Just think about that for a second and what kind of job creation this could do for our city and this community and then you can support your sandwich shops and cupcake joints.

A mini Ikea would work but someone else questioned the traffic. Where does one park for shopping like Ikea where you likely want to fill a car? This would bring in all downtowners who don't want to make the trek to North York or Etobicoke. I'm all for businesses that need a downtown presence (so that we all can continue to enjoy a car-free & and urban lifestyle) but I'm not sure if Ikea traffic would equate to positive traffic for the community at large.

Keep the good discussion (and relevancy) coming!
Nokia / May 14, 2014 at 01:53 pm
The mini Ikea will wont work within the landscape.

There is a dedicated dog park to the rear of the building, that is not going anywhere. There is absolutely no feasible way they could incorporate an Ikea into this building, with all the added size for parking, delivery, etc that would be needed.
Brian replying to a comment from Darius / May 14, 2014 at 04:43 pm
I was living in the area for years and eventually bought into the Streetcar development by the bridge but currently living abroad. I hope Streetcar can pull this off.

For a long time I thought it would be interesting to have a Drake or Gladstone. Something that cultivates and shows off art and creativity but not a destination for late night drinking and entertainment.

I would REALLY like to see something like MaRS... a start-up space. This would help support the local businesses.

I like the idea of a larger grocery store as well but worry how this would affect some of the local businesses and what about parking?

A medical centre might be nice?

I dont know how an arts type centre could survive. The property must cost a lot and rent will be expensive.
How about... / May 14, 2014 at 05:10 pm
I love deli food. I dare someone to keep walking by, when you can smell warm fresh bread baking and smoked meat wafting through the air. That would definitely get people through the front door.

How about a butcher, a fish monger, a shop catering to gluten free and/or vegan products, a cheese store (good cheese, not the stuff they sell in grocery stores, anyone else notice how bland some cheeses taste lately?), a store that sells cute nicknacks and momentos (not dollarstore product), a store that sells artwork and supplies, a boutique catering to silk (scarves, hankies, ties, gloves, shirts etc, a sports store (etc) all under one roof. I don't know the feasibilty of this, they are afterall restoring the building. I guess it's possible with more than one floor. I've never been inside. Is there an elevator? Love to see an old style elevator with...oh God I'm getting carried away.

Wouldn't it be a kick in the teeth if they just put a bank in there?
regentrat / May 14, 2014 at 05:12 pm
This is about toronto natives and toronto transplants. Admit to yourself that once again the destitute and addicted will be shifted out to make way for rich fuckwads from the suburbs. If you happen to have the means to stay you can watch them hog the sidewalks as they show their friends around, ride their 10,000 bikes in full tour de france spandex and push their SUV baby carriages into your shins while your buying groceries...
already there replying to a comment from How about... / May 14, 2014 at 05:35 pm
Deli - Broadview Bakery & Delicatessen
Bakery - St. Johns
Butcher - Butchers of Distinction
Cheese Store - Leslieville Cheese Shop
Fish Monger - Hooked
Vegan/Gluten - Pulp Kitchen
Nick Nacks - Empire
Art/boutiques/galleries/etc - Kimberly Jackson,Hardware Interiors, Dimensions Custom Framing Inc, etc, etc

Riverside has all those and more already.
perf! replying to a comment from regentrat / May 14, 2014 at 05:39 pm
preach replying to a comment from regentrat / May 14, 2014 at 05:46 pm
Agreed, lets blame the rich for making something of themselves.
How about... / May 14, 2014 at 07:02 pm
already there:

Let me guess? You're either a politician, politicians secretary, or friend of politician (i.e local BIA member) Under "ONE ROOF"? Pay attention please.

Instead of worrying about what others would like, how about posting what you would like?
Simon Tarses replying to a comment from mike in parkdale / May 14, 2014 at 08:32 pm
What the fuck? Why does this place and neighborhood have to be gentrified? Mike In Parkdale's right; we need to look at how the people who live in the hotel now get affected by these kind of developments, and how they have to be housed and taken care of after things like this happen.

Why not 'revitalize' some other part of Toronto that needs it, like anyplace in North York, Etobicoke, Scarborough, East York, or York by building a hotel there? Why wreck what quirky qualities that Queen & Broadview has just to create a clone of the Gladstone and the Drake Hotels at that intersection? And why not try to revitalize the OTHER older hotels in Toronto that needed it, like the Constellation Hotel, the Valhalla Inn, and Sutton Place?

This gentrification and condofication is fucking up Toronto a whole lot, and making it a bland and soulless place to live; it wouldn't be bad, except for the fact that this is the ONLY part of Toronto that's anywhere truly cool-the rest of Toronto's frankly not that amazing to be in or even visit, and is what most people would charitably call bland (even with the influx of ethnic restaurants.) Now we have people and developers making it just as bland as the suburbanized parts of Toronto.

What we need in Canada is a version of the Clone Britain organization/campaign dedicated to making British cities and towns less choked with chains and bland businesses ( and the recent French government program designed to keep local original small businesses in Paris and other French cities from being destroyed by chains and any gentrification caused by these chains ( we don't get these things here, Toronto's headed for a dull and uninteresting future.
i'll tell you replying to a comment from How about... / May 15, 2014 at 12:09 pm
I want Jillians back.

Just needs a new coat of paint.
Reg / May 15, 2014 at 12:44 pm
WOW look at the corner! Those tracks are a fixie nightmare!!!
Danny replying to a comment from Simon Tarses / May 15, 2014 at 12:45 pm
You're speaking for the whole area and were talking about one building and one corner.
BLOme replying to a comment from Reg / May 15, 2014 at 01:52 pm
get some real tires, dick.
How about... / May 16, 2014 at 09:10 am
I'll tell you > LOL.
Jeremy replying to a comment from Danny / May 16, 2014 at 02:03 pm
He's right though.

Zachary / May 18, 2014 at 08:39 am
Gentrification- a paradise for Hipsters, feminists and yuppies.
Rando / May 20, 2014 at 12:21 pm
How dare people buy a building and do what they want with it!

Everyone should be consulted when ANYTHING is done in the city.
joe in brockton / May 20, 2014 at 12:50 pm
Love all these out of touch Leslieville foges lamenting about the Drake and "hipsters" like it's 2008. News flash, folks--hipsters moved north to Dundas and don't hang out at the Drake anymore. The Drake crowd is actually the very same hip 905ers who frequent Boots N Bourbon--Queen East's preeminient cesspool.
Bradweeeeeee replying to a comment from sonofkhan / May 20, 2014 at 03:34 pm
Aw what?! haha You don't like my look? I feel good in tight tight jeans, plaid wellll, thats not me really as I have millions of graphic t's and a few polkadot shirts, you like?? And my glasses, ugh, I love that they're round. FUCK I'M SMOKIN HOT MAN, YOU DON'T THINK!? LOL
Bradweeeeeee replying to a comment from Rico / May 20, 2014 at 03:36 pm
YES bahahahaha I will preform a new act Rico.
Rico replying to a comment from Bradweeeeeee / May 25, 2014 at 03:05 pm
Wear something frilly and really old
Brigitte Obregon / August 16, 2014 at 11:48 am
Another project coming soon to Riverside. A new community on the edge of Queen & Don Valley is coming soon by Streetcar and Dream. Riverside Square Lofts on Queen. The Shape of Things to Come. Coming this fall from the low $200's.
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