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New in Toronto Real Estate: TWENTY Condos

Posted by Dylan Giuliano / December 5, 2013

TWENTYTWENTY Condos is just down the street from last week's featured project Ten93, so if you didn't like its design but are keen on the neighbourhood, this one might do it for you. There's so much development underway on this section of West Queen West you're bound to find something you like, or at the very least plenty to gripe about. TWENTY is the final phase in a condo development that has been slowly transforming the intersection of Queen and Gladstone for a few years now.

Standing at seven storeys, this project will feature 113 residences and a few fairly standard amenities. You can't throw a rock in this condo market without hitting a rooftop terrace or fitness centre, and this place doesn't disappoint. But there are a few extras - namely a cocktail bar and games room - for those looking for a bit more. This is certainly not the neighbourhood you're going to need any amenities in what with the venerable Gladstone next door and the Drake a bit further down the street. But if you're more of a homebody or don't feel live paying cover to go out for fun all the time, the features here at the very least cover the expected bases.

Unlike the homes this building is replacing this condo is certainly geared towards singles and young couples. You won't find anything bigger than a two bedroom at just over 900 sq ft - most of the units seem to be floating around the 600-700 sq ft range though. It also looks like a good deal of the units feature a bit of a loft aesthetic with some exposed fixtures and bare concrete ceilings. This may heighten the west-end artist loft vibe for some, except for the rather un-lofty (heh) ceiling heights (nine feet). Most of the suites will also feature some fairly large windows along with some modest balconies (starting around 50 sq ft). So unlike your southern cousins in Liberty Village you can expect quite a few years of unobstructed views in this predominately low-rise area.

TWENTY CondosSPECS

  • Address: 20 Gladstone Ave.
  • Storeys: 7
  • Number of Units: 113
  • Types of Units: 1 bedroom, 1 bedroom + den, 2 bedroom
  • Ceiling Height: 9 ft
  • Unit sizes in Square Feet: 478-911
  • Amenities: party lounge, kitchen/dining area, fitness centre, guest suites, outdoor terrace with bbqs, cocktail bar, sun deck, games room
  • Architect: TACT
  • Developer: Streetcar
  • Interior Designer: Seven Haus
  • Walkscore: 93
  • Completion Date: Spring 2016

TWENTY CondosTHE GOOD

With over 70% percent of this building already sold since its launch a short time ago there is an obvious appeal to the location and this quasi-loft style living. And although this is a "master-planned" community - usually something not to get excited about - there are at least a few perks. For one, there is a planned interior laneway and urban park that will feature shops and eventually a connection to the extension of the West Toronto Rail Path Cycling and Walking Trail. It's certainly hard to complain about a developer going out of their way to create an area dedicated to pedestrians, even if they are calling it "The Row". Also the on-site Metro grocery store is just steps away and on those cold winter nights it can even be accessed from the underground parking garage in the building.

It's also nice to see some development move further up this street. There is no indication this area will become anything like Ossington (or even if it should) but this addition may help bring a bit more life to this aging street. All in all, the combination of the 24 hr streetcar, a healthy selection of restaurants, galleries, bars, cafes, and other small retailers make this area fairly livable and exciting no matter the size of your condo unit.

TWENTY CondosTHE BAD

This project, like many more, happens to be taking out a few low rise homes on its march towards density. Whatever your feelings about the loss of these less than stunning homes might be, they did at least at one point house three bedroom units. TWENTY on the other hand has none - meaning there are no options here for those young couples who live in the area and don't want to leave when they decide to expand.

There is quite a bit of retail planned for this overall development, but don't get your hopes up. The types of businesses that give Queen West it's unique character are not usually the ones who can afford rent in new condos, so as nice "The Row" may turn out to be there probably won't be much besides a Shoppers and maybe a half way decent coffee shop.

OUR TAKE

It's great neighbours that make a neighbourhood worth living in, and this one has some excellent ones. So if you love this area and can fit your life into one of these units, this could certainly be a worthy home to live in.

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Discussion

20 Comments

cathie / December 5, 2013 at 09:50 am
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Meh. There's not one good floorplan in this project. All units are the undesirable bowling-alley type, with the bedrooms benefitting from double-aspect windows at the front and the living area having one small window at the end. Other units have bedrooms with no windows at all. Pass.
Alex replying to a comment from cathie / December 5, 2013 at 10:00 am
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The market disagrees with you. 85% of the units sold in the first month.
melabara replying to a comment from Alex / December 5, 2013 at 10:14 am
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Yes, probably sold to investors in Dubai who have never set foot in Canada, and who will keep these units empty indefinitely. This condo crap is really bringing me down.
Alex replying to a comment from melabara / December 5, 2013 at 11:00 am
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Actually, apartment and condo vacancy rates in Toronto are extremely low. So I doubt they will sit empty.

And - like them, or not - investors fill a necessary gap in the condo selling process. Not many "real" people are willing to buy a condo 3 or 4 years away from completion. Not many builders are willing to build a condo before selling any units. Inventors act as an intermediary. Without them, condos would not get built, and people would have no where to live Downtown.
BOOOOOOOORING / December 5, 2013 at 11:53 am
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Dylan's columns read like their written by a real estate agent (in training), property developer('s intern) or some other sycophantic stooge propping up another decrepit, rube-filled, shit hole condo that looks like a computer lab at Barrie Community College.

Also, Alex, I can't even fathom how stupid, gullible and culturally alienated you must be if you actually believe the tripe you just wrote.

Fuck all of you.
lori / December 5, 2013 at 12:29 pm
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^ouch
iSkyscraper / December 5, 2013 at 12:42 pm
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Toronto needs more midrise condos for future development along major avenues -- not everything can be a tower on a podium. Good to see some new examples of the type.

Shame about the lack of larger units, but the market will eventually correct for that if there is demand. In New York, 3 bedrooms are superpremium and cost more on a per SF basis than 1's or 2's -- the market eventually got so hot for them that a few buildings went up in family-friendly neighborhoods that were primarily three bedrooms.
lol replying to a comment from BOOOOOOOORING / December 5, 2013 at 12:59 pm
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actually your spelling and grammar's so bad it's pretty clear you're the dimwit here.
christopher / December 5, 2013 at 01:49 pm
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It has been reported in the meida at the begining of 2013 that there where 18,000 unsold condo units in Toronto. Add the "black units" which are owned by forgien investors who do not want to rent them out.

There needs to be proper reporting instead of having the real estate industry controling the news.
kn / December 5, 2013 at 04:37 pm
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Stand by for the ULTIMATE CONDO hell brought to you by and rammed down the throat of the ALEX PARK community by Adam Vaughan. Forget 6-8 stories. ADAM thinks having 15-20 story buildings in Alexandra park is good city planning. The only thing it does is help pay for new million dollar townhomes as public housing. Our city councillors and planning department seem to full of empty headed zombies who see condos as the solution for everything. The only solution is to VOTE THESE CLOWNS OUT OF OFFICE!

NEWSFLASH CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT, HAVE A SENSIBLE PLAN THAT DOESN'T ALLOW COUNCILLORS TO PUSH PERSONAL AGENDAS AND RECOGNIZES THAT THERE ARE SOLUTIONS OTHER THAN WALLS OF OBNOXIOUS CONDOS.
d / December 5, 2013 at 04:38 pm
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I thought you meant they were building 20 condos at once! Phew.
Alex replying to a comment from christopher / December 5, 2013 at 05:09 pm
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There are actually roughly 23,500 unsold condos in the GTA. 14,100 of these units are in buildings that haven't started constuction...so they are not true inventory. There are 8,900 units available in buildings under construction. That leaves less than 1000 available units that are actually completed. That is not very many.

In terms of "black" units...if I was an investor holding a completed unit, why would I leave it empty, and not cover my mortgage, when I could rent it out in a market with a 1.5% vacancy rate and bidding wars for rentals? These so-called "black" units are a media invention.
Alex replying to a comment from iSkyscraper / December 5, 2013 at 05:12 pm
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You are right...we will need more 3 bedroom units, and larger units in general. However, with land prices where they are, developers cannot provide large units at prices that consumers will pay. Eventually, this will change, as you said, and the market will adjust.
Joe / December 5, 2013 at 06:53 pm
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I don't think density is the worst thing to have, but the problem is there are lots of sketchy developers out there building units full of deficiencies. Streetcar Developments is one of them. Wouldn't want to buy one of those units - poor sound proofing, broken AC/heater units and plenty of deficiencies which you'll be stuck with the bill paying for.
jorg / December 5, 2013 at 08:41 pm
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to fight the ignorance; must watch
http://www.cbc.ca/doczone/episodes/the-condo-game
kn / December 6, 2013 at 12:00 am
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It's not about just density. It's about the quality of the buildings, about creating diverse communities, and how do these building function in relation with it's surroundings and our climate. It's about paying attention to the little details. It's also about developing every community equally not just focusing on the downtown core as if it was the be all and end all. Limiting heights of buildings would force developers to focus on other areas of the city.

The big question has always been what will be the affordable alternative to the single family dwelling in the main part of the city. Condos are not the solution for families. The empty headed city planners don't quite seem to understand that there needs to be something between 3 stories and 30. By the way, ask Adam Vaughan why TCHC is building almost 400 townhomes in the middle of downtown as public housing, while most of you are forced to live in boxes in the sky.
MilaCam / December 6, 2013 at 12:17 am
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The interiors could not be more sterile...surprise
seanm replying to a comment from MilaCam / December 6, 2013 at 09:48 am
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Why is it a surprise? People's tastes vary greatly, so in order to not alienate a large percentage of potential buyers, relatively neutral palettes are used for presentation. A coat of paint and a few hardware upgrades, and it can feel like a whole new place; it's not really a difficult job for the new buyers.
Carol / December 6, 2013 at 09:48 am
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I think it's great to see these multi-phase and cohesive looking communities downtown. And I think Streetcar is one of the better builders out there. When we were buying our first home, there were very few choices in the city core so we moved to the burbs. Now there are so many choices available, people feel the need to complain unfairly and unreasonably. Queen West is being revitalized - and it was needed! Good for you, Streetcar....keep up the great work!
Charley / December 6, 2013 at 12:02 pm
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No question that people bought these units for the plans, pricing, finishes and developer. I bought a one plus den unit here and am very excited for 2016. I saw some developer comments higher up, as a long time streetcar purchaser I think these people should check out some of their buildings! I was at the sales office and toured the model suites in an actual streetcar building. They look great.

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