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A last ride on the TTC's H4 subway before it's scrapped

Posted by Mariam Matti / January 27, 2012

TTC H4 Subway Last RideAfter more than 35 years in service, the Hawker-Siddely H4 subway car made its last trip along the Bloor-Danforth subway line this morning before it heads to the scrap yard. Although perhaps not the most significant event, a host of transit fanatics and photographers were on board for last rites.

Commuters, on the other hand, will likely be thankful that the H4 is being retired before another summer arrives. The combination of a lack of air conditioning and padded vinyl seats was a bit deadly on the hottest of days.

TTC H4 Subway TrainThe the last TTC subway car with fan coils, orange seating, and yellow doors, everything about the interior design reeks of that unmistakable 1970s aesthetic. The H-series trains were built between 1965 and 1990 at the Thunder Bay plant. Although the H4 will no longer ride the rails, the H5 and H6 are still in service. With the arrival of more Toronto Rockets, the Commission can finally retire its oldest car.

TTC H4 Subway TrainTTC spokesperson Brad Ross announced yesterday that the H4 would be making its last return trip from Kennedy to Kipling, which brought out enough transit geeks to leave commuters confused as to what all the fuss was about. Some complained that it was far too much attention for a subway train, while another asked me to snap a photo of her on these, "decrepit seats." Not everyone, it would seem, was beset by nostalgia.

TTC H4 Subway TrainAs the subway approached Kennedy station, the operator ominously announced, "after this next stop, the train is going to be decommissioned." Although not everyone will miss the old trains, it's always a bit wistful to say goodbye to something so familiar.

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TTC H4TTC H4TTC H4TTC H4TTC H4Photos three and four by Danielle Scott and APTA_2050, respectively. All other photos by the author.

Discussion

32 Comments

Robin LeBlanc / January 27, 2012 at 02:08 pm
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Will actually miss it. Lot of nostalgia with that train.
gee / January 27, 2012 at 02:11 pm
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I'm going to miss these trains. I always felt like I was stepping back into time when I got on one of these trains. So comfy!
Lizzle / January 27, 2012 at 02:28 pm
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I care! I care! BlogTO! keep running these features!

To the complainers! keep coming here to complain, BlogTO needs the ad revenue.
hpo / January 27, 2012 at 02:31 pm
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Can't really say I'm going to miss them. Many a times I nearly missed my stop because I was stuck to the vinyl seats. :)
Elle Em / January 27, 2012 at 02:32 pm
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I enjoyed the very 1970s aesthetic of these trains as well and all that awful orange vinyl. Definitely a step back in time.
eller replying to a comment from . / January 27, 2012 at 02:37 pm
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Some of us *are* girls.
Jeniijen / January 27, 2012 at 02:39 pm
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When I was little and my Nana took care of me, we would ride in the front seat, of the front car every day from Woodbine to Kipling so I could go to Kindergarten. I loved those squishy orange seats and saying hi to the driver every morning!
Al / January 27, 2012 at 02:41 pm
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BlogTO really needs a rating feature on comments so we can vote and eventually hide the trolls' comments.
Alex / January 27, 2012 at 02:44 pm
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No AC? I bet a lot of people are happy those trains are finally gone. You can always tell the 70's and 80's by fake wood panelling :)
Dee / January 27, 2012 at 02:47 pm
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Not the best looking train but the seats were actually quite comfortable... in the winter
Vic / January 27, 2012 at 02:48 pm
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Heh.... That's me in the green jacket standing at the rear of the last photo. This pic was taken at Islington Station on the return trip, just as I was about to get off the train. I took this photo from the opposite angle:
http://vic.gedris.org/pics/tmp/foamers.jpg
m / January 27, 2012 at 02:53 pm
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I enjoyed these trains. (unless it was summer) Many a mornings have been spent napping on my way to work on those comfy seats!
asdf replying to a comment from Al / January 27, 2012 at 02:54 pm
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But then that would mean BlogTO will have to enter the 21st century.
K-eh la / January 27, 2012 at 03:00 pm
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I always found the orange seats more comfortable. Also...who knows what is hiding in that red velour...
Justin / January 27, 2012 at 03:01 pm
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Hey flamewar participants, shaddupayoufaces.

I loved these trains because you could actually sit on a regular couch-style seat with cushioning. Very comfortable and amusing when people would nearly slide off of them if the driver came to a sudden stop.

Ah well, back to red indoor-outdoor carpet strapped over a steel drum.
TheRealJohnson / January 27, 2012 at 03:01 pm
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I wonder if the last ride this morning was awkward given that the only people who were on the train seem to have been photographers from blogTO, Torontoist, and The Grid...
tom / January 27, 2012 at 03:03 pm
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I'm going to miss these trains!
The old vinyl seats held black ink like no others!
Derek / January 27, 2012 at 03:22 pm
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I've temporarily closed commenting on this post in an effort to spare us all the homophobic rage of a lonely troll. Apologies to those who had something worthwhile to say.
W. K. Lis / January 27, 2012 at 03:22 pm
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What is to become of the H4 cars?

Sold, scrap, given to the Halton County Museum, restaurants...?
Em / January 27, 2012 at 11:33 pm
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those trains were the best for naps.
Maureen / January 28, 2012 at 12:31 am
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I left Toronto in 1982 but reading the comments brought back memories of my trips to work on the subway in the 1970s. The cars were terribly hot and crowded.
McRib / January 28, 2012 at 01:57 am
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anyone who really is going to miss these is ridiculous.

they were awful.
Malorie / January 28, 2012 at 12:00 pm
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They may be aweful, but look how attached J-Lo is to the #6! She named an album after a train that was probably just as decrepit. Some are more nostalgic than others. Great post! What were your thoughts riding it Mar?
Bobbo / January 28, 2012 at 02:06 pm
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The cars were actually in service for 37 years not 35. They were built in 1974-75 and most of them entered service in 1975.
Derek replying to a comment from Bobbo / January 28, 2012 at 03:11 pm
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I added a "more than" to adjust for the timeline. Thanks.
Parker / January 28, 2012 at 08:36 pm
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I'm really dating myself here, but...I still miss the REALLY old cars: the red Gloucester trains from England. Their floors didn't line up with the platforms, there was a bit of a gap up/down, so you had to be careful you didn't trip when exiting. The windows opened, and sometimes the lights would go off for no apparent reason. Ah, good times.
Dov Eles replying to a comment from Parker / January 29, 2012 at 08:29 am
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I loved the old red cars when I was a kid! The lights going off - the stale tobacco smell - the old design. It is strange to think that these, now retired H-4's, seemed modern in comparison. In fact, I have rode the Spadina line 10 plus times and have not caught the new trains to see if they, likewise, make the current trains seem obsolete.
Maureen / January 29, 2012 at 02:20 pm
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I forgot all about the old red cars but I must have used them because I lived in Willowdale from 1965 and I travelled by train from Eglinton to Dundas to study at Ryerson.
TYZ / January 30, 2012 at 04:11 pm
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one of my fondest memories growing up is being on one of the old cars going to the CNE and falling asleep lying on the orange vinyl seats. I'm going to miss this train!
Dr. Shrinker replying to a comment from Maureen / February 2, 2012 at 09:30 am
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Maureen, which part of Willowdale did you live in? I lived at the intersection of Van Horne & Edmonton, just one block from where they filmed the last Day Of The Dead movie.
Alex (Toronto) / February 2, 2012 at 07:40 pm
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I was on the oldest H4 subway train on its final day, thankfully, those trains are gone for good, because these trains were non-air-conditioned over the summer months, and they looked really ugly and old ever since, now that the new Toronto Rocket trains took over its position.

I was announcing to many riders as possible that this would be their final good-bye as this H4 train would be making its final run and will be decommissioned after the morning rush on January 27, 2012.
Maureen replying to a comment from Dr. Shrinker / February 2, 2012 at 08:28 pm
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Dr. Shrinker - I lived at Van Horne and Don Mills.

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