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Rob Ford on why the Fort York bridge had to go

Posted by Derek Flack / May 26, 2011

Fort York BridgeThere's probably not much point in continued lament over the so-called death of the Fort York Pedestrian and Cycle Bridge (there's a new bridge to campaign for), but inasmuch as the whole incident is representative of the way that Toronto's current municipal government works, it's fascinating to read how Mayor Rob Ford applied his customer service strategy to those citizens who emailed him about the now doomed project.

Here's a copy of the stock email response that a number of members of the Facebook group Save the Fort York Pedestrian and Cycle Bridge have indicated they received when they contacted the mayor's office.

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From: Mayor Ford Mayor_Ford@toronto.ca
Date: Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: Save The Fort York Pedestrian Cycle Bridge

Thank you for sharing your thoughts about the Fort York Pedestrian Bridge.

While this bridge design is beautiful, Toronto cannot afford a project like this right now. No Federal or Provincial money has been provided for this project, the City of Toronto would have to borrow $22.4 million to construct it. This project has already gone $4.4 million over budget and would take away funding for other planned bridge repairs.

At this time, Council has deferred this project until a more cost effective solution can be provided by staff. After a new design has been completed, it will be submitted to the Public Works Committee for review and consideration.

I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts and concerns. Please feel free to contact my office again at any time.

Yours truly,

Mayor Rob Ford
City of Toronto

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The Good

While the responses might not be individualized, Ford seems to have made mostly good on his promise to respond to citizen inquires. That might sound like it's a not a big deal, but get my father-in-law started about all the letters he wrote to David Miller that never received a response, and you get a sense for why this approach is deemed valuable by so many citizens. Seriously, he foams at the mouth.

The Bad

Getting a response is great. Getting a response that misconstrues the facts is, well, problematic. While such misrepresentation might work with some citizens who have contacted the City, presumably many who've taken the time to send an email will have a decent understanding of the issue at hand. Hence...

The Ugly

"The City of Toronto would have to borrow $22.4 million to construct it." I suppose it all depends on how liberally you want to use the term borrow, but given that the bridge was already budgeted for, this comes off as completely disingenuous. It would also be more accurate to say that funding for road repairs is what took away money earmarked for the bridge — not the other way around.

Discussion

43 Comments

hendrix / May 26, 2011 at 04:34 pm
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Rob Ford just wants additional study done to make sure the bridge will hold his weight.
Harald / May 26, 2011 at 04:36 pm
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What this shows is that city staff should stop giving "best case" budgets to council. You're right, the bridge wasn't killed over the 22.4 million price tag - it was killed over the 4.4 million *increase* in price.
rek / May 26, 2011 at 04:51 pm
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I never would have guessed Ford would lie to voters...

Never.

*snicker*
Robert / May 26, 2011 at 04:59 pm
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eventually he will run out of things to posture about. He was really strecting it over the 5 cent bag fee. Calling it a tax and indicating he might look at collecting it, it would then be a tax and only the province can impose such a tax.
mike m / May 26, 2011 at 05:13 pm
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Ford will turn this city into Detroit if we dont get him and his cronies out asap.
The bridge he wants to build will resemble a bridge u see in Etobicoke. Cement arch with metal stairs. This bridge and area needs to be special
Steve / May 26, 2011 at 06:14 pm
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If he was honest, which he is not, he would admit we cannot afford the bridge because he reduced city revenues by canceling the vehicle registration fee, and will further reduce it by canceling the land transfer fee the city collects. This week he tried to prevent $90 million dollars worth of tourist dollars into the city by trying to canceling Pride. For no other reason but to feed his bigotry.
Matthew Fabb / May 26, 2011 at 06:18 pm
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I wonder if someone responded back to Ford's letter if it would be ignore or if another form letter would be produced? Just a new letter back debating his points that it was already budgeted and that it is unlikely going to go forward if it's not made right now when it can fit into the interrupted train schedule.
Rob Ford / May 26, 2011 at 06:59 pm
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I didn't want that bridge up there because it would force my fat ass to walk.
Barnaby / May 26, 2011 at 07:36 pm
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I have to support the mayor on this, the city is in a 800 million dollar hole.
me replying to a comment from Barnaby / May 26, 2011 at 08:59 pm
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The city is $800,000,000 BECAUSE of Ford. This city is going to be in ruins 4 years from now.
Kieren replying to a comment from Barnaby / May 26, 2011 at 09:17 pm
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Yes. Thanks to Rob Ford.
Jacob / May 26, 2011 at 09:19 pm
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They ought to tax cars, and use that money to pay for road repairs. Use the tax dollars of citizens in the core to actually develop and grow the city.
j-rock replying to a comment from Barnaby / May 26, 2011 at 09:35 pm
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The money for the bridge was already budgeted. The city is in a $774 million hole for a lot of reasons, but this bridge isn't one of them. He squandered a surplus so that he could cancel an unpopular, but largely painless tax, for purely political reasons. And yes, I own a car, and didn't mind paying the tax. The city needs the money more than I need the 17 cents a day, or $5 a month I'm "saving" now. I lose more than $60 a year down the back of my couch (seriously, loonies and twonies add up quickly).

Cities have to be about more than just sewers and roads and property taxes. That's why I hate all this talk about "running a city like a business". It's not a business. Don't get me wrong, I think Miller has a lot to answer for, and spent like a drunken sailor on shore leave, and if he hadn't sh*t the bed during the strike in '09, there's no way Ford would ever have been elected. But Rob Ford is not the answer. He could make a fine mayor in a place like Etobicoke or Brampton or Oakville, but the mayor of the country's largest city needs to have some type of vision. Much like Miller didn't understand the suburban voter - to his ultimate demise, Ford has no idea of what makes a real city work. Toronto is not Etobicoke, and he needs to stop treating it like it is.
Mary / May 26, 2011 at 10:03 pm
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Does Ford actually walk anywhere? How can he judge a pedestrian bridge's worth or useage if he has no actual knowledge of how pedestrian life functions?
Danno / May 26, 2011 at 10:08 pm
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We can't afford Ford
the lemur / May 26, 2011 at 10:31 pm
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Mayor explains it
Comma splice in sentence two
Only makes it worse
Alex / May 26, 2011 at 10:45 pm
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Not that there is much point in posting in an NDP board...but what does budgeting something have to do with affording something?

So, if I plan to buy a Ferrari next year and I cancel that, people would say "but you budgeted for it!"?

I don't think highly of Ford but anyone who thinks Miller or Smitherman would be better is nuts...I'd rather have somebody who wants to save me money than somebody who recklessly spends it.
shlepster / May 26, 2011 at 10:53 pm
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Its funny, the amount of negative comments thrown at Rob Ford. I guess our previous mayor was an angel, who taxed the hell out of the city and the city dwellers kept begging to be taxed more. Now they are up in arms over a bridge, get over it man!! Rob Ford is here for 4 years and guess what he'll probably get another 4 when it comes time re-elect him.
Robert / May 26, 2011 at 10:54 pm
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Does the city have a surplus of money somewhere? Am I unaware of this or something? Because unless they are running a surplus of $22.4 million than the money for the bridge will have to be borrowed, regardless of whether it is budgeted it for or not.

I own a small company, when I do my yearly budget plan I include certain pieces of equipment that I'd like to purchase in a year, but if I don't have the cash I make a judgement call as to whether I should borrow the money to buy it or decide to push it back and wait for more money. This doesn't strike as being unusual, odd, or dishonest.

Sometimes I think we sound like little kids when a trip to Disney World gets cancelled and they whine and cry without getting the big picture that maybe the family budget is a little tight. There will always be beautiful structures to be built, I just don't think we can build all of them.

Also, is this entire post sort of makes the Rob Ford haters look a bit small and picky. Look for the big stuff, don't get caught in these little issues that make people look small and consistently disagreeable.
Sean replying to a comment from Alex / May 26, 2011 at 10:55 pm
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The budget deficit for next year has increased $500 million under Rob Ford.

If that is your definition of saving, I am terrified of what your definition of spending looks like.
aliengoo / May 26, 2011 at 10:57 pm
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The deficit is NOT Mayor Ford's alone.Miller's car tax wasn't being used to improve much considering the pot holes alone.For those who liked the car tax,tolls are better,and will capture revenue from the 905,and Ontario commercial vehicles using 416 infrastructure.Toll needs to remain under municipal control,with private partnership contracts that can be terminated, unlike 407 fiasco.Fee should be based on time of day usage.Pay a premium during rush hour,this could help relieve our gridlock.
Zach Swan replying to a comment from Robert / May 26, 2011 at 11:04 pm
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Indeed. For a group of people who generally believe themselves to be much smarter and so much more sophisticated than all the 'troglodytes from the suburbs' that voted for Rob Ford, the haters aren't bringing much credit to themselves with their 'but it was already BUDGETED' defense. Oddly, I expected more.
jason / May 27, 2011 at 12:34 am
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Robert and Zach are correct.

Please nobody remind them of the 11% raise the cops got for simply showing up to work. And nobody remind them how the Fords will not touch the $66/hr cops earn in overtime pay for acting as crossing guards.

Who has money for bridges and shit? Listen to Robert, he runs a business.
Chris Lea / May 27, 2011 at 12:48 am
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Miller might have been "spending like a drunken sailor on shore leave" and may have raised our property taxes to more than half of what they pay in Oshawa, but he didn't completely waste hundreds of millions of property tax dollars already spent on transit projects he didn't like, rather he actually raised the billions it would cost to build these transit projects from Queens Park and Ottawa, a rare case where the tax money generated by this town didn't leave never to return. The Fords are a disaster and we are going to regret it.
brobman / May 27, 2011 at 07:22 am
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Compared to other Canadian cities, Toronto overall taxes are high, but "taxed to death" - no. We have money for this very worthwhile piece of infrastructure. Saying that we don't is not being honest.

If you think we are taxed to death, go talk to the province about downloading and talk to Rob about the $50million pay raise to a certain union don't forget to mention the higher payout to the transit workers now they are not allowed to strike.

See
http://www.edmonton.ca/business/documents/PropertyTax_Report_2009RevisedFeb10.pdf
BM / May 27, 2011 at 07:45 am
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Wah, wah, wah. It's an effing bridge people.
The money can be better spent elsewhere.
Here's a trade off. Build your bridge, give more of the TCHC houses away for free (al a Miller) and then eveyone can live under your precious bridge.
Steve replying to a comment from BM / May 27, 2011 at 08:42 am
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Have you not been following the conversation(s) over decisions such as this, or have just decided to ignore them.

It is more than just a bridge. It is about the ideology of how Ford and his cronies are running Toronto. Their lack of understandingng how a city works, Their lack of business sense. Planning for the future, future growth, how to increase revenue etc..
It has been only 7 months and he has wasted millions of dollars, crushed the vision of the waterfront, handed huge payouts to a city union, blocked access to city hall.
Robert replying to a comment from jason / May 27, 2011 at 09:07 am
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I'm not sure why the Police contract would have anything to do with this issue. If you are saying that he should've been tougher on the Police budget (I think so), than that is a separate issue and can be debated, but why conflate this issue?

Also, I don’t think you needed to be critical of me, just because I come from a different point of view/background than yourself. And the city literally doesn’t have money for “bridges and shit”, that’s sort of the point of all of this, isn’t it?
Jack Hoff replying to a comment from Steve / May 27, 2011 at 09:18 am
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Ya, shame on you BM. Don't you realize that the comments section of Blog TO articles aren't for actually commenting on the article content? Surely by now you must realize the sole purpose for these sections is so self-described urban sophisticates can bitch and moan and generally act like sore losers until they get their way and replace Rob Ford? They are devastated that the disastrous decade of David Miller is over and they just can't face that his pathetic legacy is being wiped off the face of Toronto at the behest of suburbanite voters who just aren't smart enough to "get it."

Yeesh. I didn't even vote for Rob Ford and I'm tired of their constant pretentious whining.
Dave / May 27, 2011 at 09:29 am
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"While the responses might not be individualized, Ford seems to have made mostly good on his promise to respond to citizen inquires."

FYI, I never got a response, form or otherwise, when I e-mailed the mayor about Transit City. If you ever need someone to rant back at your father-in-law, I'm your guy.
Derek replying to a comment from Robert / May 27, 2011 at 09:42 am
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What's disingenuous is that Shiner's rhetoric leading up to the cancellation of the project revolved around needing the money allotted for the bridge for other things like road repair:

"You want to connect the people there, but at what cost? I have a lot of concern that we're so financially tight — just think about what that $23 million could do for bridge rehab, for road repair... I think it's important to have a sober second look at this, and that's all I'm trying to do."

Beyond a certain point, you're borrowing the money wherever it goes, which I'd imagine is why people are bringing up the police contract and other aspects of the City's finances. It would seem that the concept of budgetary borrowing is only brought up when it relates to a project Ford isn't in favour of — such rhetorical choices aren't neutral or unmotivated.
josher replying to a comment from j-rock / May 27, 2011 at 10:06 am
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well said J-Rock!
steve replying to a comment from Jack Hoff / May 27, 2011 at 10:13 am
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So am I to understand that the proper way to conduct city hall business is to lay out on your desk a list of what your predecessor did, whether good bad or indifferent and systematically cancel everything he did for no other reason but to cancel what your predecessor did.
Whether I voted for Ford or not I did not vote for city hall to be run like that.
mike in parkdale / May 27, 2011 at 10:18 am
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here's an idea:

ticket the people who cross the tracks (illegally) and put that money towards a bridge?

just kidding... I've gotten a ticket for crossing the tracks near there (where hundreds of people are forced to do it because there's no way around) and it sure stung my wallet.

it's a shame it got canned. that area is very isolated and a footbridge would have done wonders for the area (and for Fort York)
Jack Hoff replying to a comment from steve / May 27, 2011 at 10:32 am
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You are to understand that all of the mayoral candidates put forward an election platform. Whether you like it or not, Toronto voters chose our current mayor. So far, he is doing what the Toronto citizens gave him a mandate to do.

Now if you're going to keep sulking, bitching and moaning in every new post this is going to get awfully tiring and Ford's term will feel even longer than it is going to be. Perhaps you can find some way to make a positive contribution.
keven replying to a comment from Steve / May 27, 2011 at 11:01 am
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"he has wasted millions of dollars"

Not to be one of "those" people, but it's hundreds of millions actually.
steve c replying to a comment from Jack Hoff / May 27, 2011 at 11:04 am
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How sad. That politics have devolved so much. That an undying support no matter what they do.
The list is long and there are no sides left or right. No level of government is immune, federal, provincial or municipal.
Nick replying to a comment from Jack Hoff / May 27, 2011 at 02:13 pm
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Fortunately we live in a democracy, Jack Hoff, where one is allowed to criticize. The right certainly did so during the Miller years. And what's wrong with having a debate about things that the city builds. For one thing, I'd like to know why Rob Ford can suddenly decide, without a council vote, to scrap billions in funding for a transit plan for all of Toronto, and "mandate" that there be a subway at a cost of $4,000,000,000 along Sheppard, whose construction will impinge on the future tax revenues that the city can collect (tax increment financing model). We, i.e. the public, will pay for this, even under a "public-private" model. Also, why does the Eglinton line have to be buried at its extreme? Is Ford a transportation expert - no. He's a populist. I hope that council can keep his tyranny of the majority in check.
steve replying to a comment from Jack Hoff / May 27, 2011 at 08:32 pm
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Are you implying that if I did not vote for him I have to resign from being part of the process?
No politician has the mandate to ignore those that did not vote for them.
If I disagre with what that politician is doing I have a right to voice my objectionon and criticisms.
jennifer / May 28, 2011 at 06:53 pm
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The thing about the funding for this project is...the money that was budgeted for it can't go to anything else EXCEPT for waterfront redevelopment. This is what I was told by the area city councillor, Mike Layton. So, to my understanding, we've now lost money that has been spent on the design and research, and the rest of those budgeted millions will vanish, doing nobody any good at all. If I'm wrong on this, by all means let me know.

It really bothers me that the Fords are cancelling projects left right and centre and costing the city MILLIONS!! How on earth is that cutting back on the gravy? It's incredibly wasteful and short-sighted.
lonewolf / May 28, 2011 at 08:03 pm
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@jennifer,if what you say is true,then Mayor needs to review the Fort York bridge issue.Namely,ask why the bid went up$4.4M,and have the contractor who builds to do it for the original budget,or raise the difference with corporate,and private sponsors?Mayor did want bikes to get off primary roads,so this beautiful bridge is a step in that direction:)As I sat in gridlock on a saturday with no road closures,so annoying:( Thought went to those who live in 416 can't afford to keep paying for others to use our crumbling infrastructure.Tolls are used in major centers around the world,Toronto needs revenue without property taxing constituents to death.
Andrew replying to a comment from Dave / May 28, 2011 at 09:16 pm
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Ditto for me too, I never received a response from the mayor on Transit City. I have to agree with the comments about not being taxed to death. We pay the least amount of property taxes in the GTA. Last I looked, the Feds are taking all my money.
Nardi / June 8, 2011 at 08:13 am
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Good on Ford for killing a useless bridge that someone decided should also be a piece of art.

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