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Sarah Thomson reveals ambitious Bike City plan, but is it realistic?

Posted by Tomasz Bugajski / September 11, 2010

Sarah Thomson Bike PlanMaking "Toronto the greatest cycling city in North America" is mayoral candidate Sarah Thomson's new goal. Her proposed bike plan, dubbed Bike City, was revealed to a small but curious group at Nathan Philips Square Friday morning.

The plan calls for nine kilometers of physically separated bike lanes on Richmond, Adelaide, and University Avenue. It also includes a pledge to finish the downtown portion of the Bike Plan by 2012, add sharrows and bike boxes on all arterial roads, and cap the speed limit in Toronto at 50km/h (except on expressways). However, limiting suburban bike lanes where community support doesn't exist is also part of the plan.

Sarah Thomson Bike PlanOther initiatives include creating 1000 km of on-road bike routes, 40 km of off-road bike paths through utility corridors, and building underpasses, crossings, and bridges for cyclists at obstacles like major highways and rail lines. The plan also consists of a number of other proposals such as cracking down on cyclists illegally riding on sidewalks, which is welcome news to countless pedestrians who are put in danger by the practice.

Bike City would be financed by the existing $101 million earmarked by city council for the city's official Bike Plan. Thomson says that she would streamline its implementation by having a vote upfront for a four-year plan, with the hope of eliminating political interference thereafter.

The plan is by far the most comprehensive bike policy any mayoral candidate has offered to date. It includes a number of good ideas, especially bike boxes, which allow cyclists to make safe left turns without having to cut through traffic. And the promise to complete the Bike Plan's downtown network, proposed nearly 10 years ago, is in itself a step forward, considering the opposition to new bike lanes among the candidates.

However, questions remain over the feasibility -- and, perhaphs more importantly, the desirability -- of keeping city speed limits capped at 50km/h. The question of how physically separated bike lanes on Richmond and Adelaide would accommodate currently existing driveways is also unresolved.

Sarah Thomson Bike PlanBike City is a great way for Thomson to endear herself with the progressive population of Toronto. And revealed on the last day to drop out of the mayoral race, the proposed plan is a sign that she'll stay in the election for now despite disappointing poll numbers.

Cyclists and bike advocates should be happy a comprehensive bike plan has entered the debate, but room for enthusiasm is limited by the fact that it's been proposed by a candidate who's unlikely to win and the fact that it's short on specifics. The natural question becomes, even if Thomson is elected, will it be possible to make good on these promises?

More likely for implementation is a Rob Ford or George Smitherman "bike plan," which involves no new bike lanes downtown. Both candidates are trying hard -- desperately, in Smitherman's case -- to win the votes of suburban drivers.

Sarah ThomsonThe biggest problem for cyclists is that most drivers ignore the fact that bikes are here to stay and that there's no choice but to share the road with them. In my case, I actually prefer to drive on a road with a bike lane because I know it's safer for me and the cyclist -- I don't understand why others don't appreciate this.

Tensions between bikers and drivers will likely stay around until we get serious about addressing the way we approach transportation. But despite the environmental and traffic concerns driving poses, more and more cars seem to be flooding Toronto's streets.

A full rundown of Bike City can be found here. And a larger map of Thomson's bike lane network (depicted above) can be viewed here.

Discussion

62 Comments

C. Innik / September 11, 2010 at 02:41 pm
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I guess she figures bike people are people who bother to vote, so she's givin' 'em something.
That's what you call rocket science right there.
Picard102 / September 11, 2010 at 02:52 pm
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Shame she just shot herself in the foot with this plan and has not hope of winning now.
Mark / September 11, 2010 at 02:54 pm
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C-R-A-Z-Y!!!
Langford / September 11, 2010 at 03:04 pm
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Physically separated lanes, great. But 2012? She's lost her marbles.
n / September 11, 2010 at 03:04 pm
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Idiotic idea - for example limiting speed to 50km/h. I am not pro-car, but limiting speed should be on a case by case bases. Why should the speed be limited where there is no house in sight? Thank god she has no chance of winning!
Tim / September 11, 2010 at 03:32 pm
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Shot herself in the foot? I don't understand the opposition here. The only thing to NOT do is a 50 km/h speed limit. Otherwise this is a dream for cyclists as well as cars (safer road going for both). Have you seen how much better traffic runs with bike lanes in Copenhagen? New York?

I'm a cyclist and public transit user. And now I'm definitely going to vote Thomson.
craig / September 11, 2010 at 03:43 pm
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Bicycles are vehicles according to the Highway Traffic Act and should be treated (and behave) as such. Cyclists have the right to a full lane, not some door-prize collecting afterthought this City calls a bike lane.

If a mayoral candidate wants to make cycling safer, then start ticketing motorists that don't treat bicycles as vehicles. It would make cycling a revenue-generator for the City, instead of wasting $100 million on ineffective bike lanes.
picard102 replying to a comment from Tim / September 11, 2010 at 03:45 pm
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Disregarding that from what every cyclist I've talked to says about boulevard lanes being a death trap in disguise, this plan is only going to poll well with her urbanite base, and push the suburban even further away, when she desperately needs their support.
TOman890 replying to a comment from Picard102 / September 11, 2010 at 03:46 pm
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Like she had a hope in hell...
Anne / September 11, 2010 at 03:58 pm
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she has a terrible high pitched speaking voice
Carl / September 11, 2010 at 03:58 pm
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I think this is the most progressive bike plan out there. Go Sarah.
o.k. / September 11, 2010 at 05:23 pm
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I like Thomson because he is over ambitious with all of her plans. Her Transit and Bike plans are unrealistic yes, but even just getting half of each is better than all of the candidates combined and there plans to deal with transportation in the city.
Langford replying to a comment from o.k. / September 11, 2010 at 05:42 pm
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Easy to be overly ambitious at the bottom of the polls toward the end of your campaign.
gr1 replying to a comment from craig / September 11, 2010 at 05:45 pm
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interesting motion. i'm not some cycle freak but this is something i can get behind. in the downtown core if the speed limit was 50 and strictly upheld this would also be advantageous to the city (revenue from tickteing), pedestrians (much better chance of living if hit at low speed), bikers (won't feel preyed upon by aggressive cabs and the erratic observational/questionable driving practices of some motorists), other motorists (less damage in accidents and less beligerence/road rage/damage in vehicle on vehicle accidents) and of course that is all hypothetical and conjecture to some extent but I am very intrigued by new, sustainable and harmonizing approaches to transit.

I think I just won the worlds longest and most confusing sentence award. I blame weed.
Just Sayin' / September 11, 2010 at 05:48 pm
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If Thomson were a man, she'd be so much farther ahead in the polls.
Langford replying to a comment from Just Sayin' / September 11, 2010 at 06:00 pm
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Just Sayin? Hazel McCallion's only been mayor the last few decades. Barbara Hall led in the polls in 2003. I believe she was a woman.
Langford / September 11, 2010 at 06:04 pm
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Not to mention was mayor In the 90s.
Tim / September 11, 2010 at 06:05 pm
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All progressive (or just all) voters should converge on Sarah Thomson. If we like her platform and want to make it ours, let's take our vote seriously, and do something with it.
Tim / September 11, 2010 at 06:06 pm
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All progressive (or just all) voters should converge on Sarah Thomson. If we like her platform and want to make it ours, let's take our vote seriously, and do something with it.
bullring / September 11, 2010 at 06:07 pm
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Where am I supposed to ride my gravy train?
Car and rider / September 11, 2010 at 06:20 pm
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As a cyclist and driver, I think there has been too much division between the two camps, propagated by the media for the most part. Bike lanes make everyone feel safer, lines on the pavement are rules that both parties can adhere to. "If" cyclists stop running red lights and doing dumb things, I think that will be the best foot forward to reducing the animosity, and working towards a better transportation system for T.O. Does Sarah get my vote? no. Is the idea a good one? yes.
3m replying to a comment from Just Sayin' / September 11, 2010 at 06:24 pm
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and you have what, exactly, to substantiate that claim? the sentiments you got from a certain class at new college?
Tim replying to a comment from bullring / September 11, 2010 at 06:30 pm
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To bullring, (and all Ford supporters), please provide some analysis for your derision. So here's one from the CD Howe Institute (a right-wing think-tank). It said in a report (www.cdhowe.org/pdf/ebrief_103.pdf):

"Over the past decade, however, the city spent 1.1 percent more... performing among the best provinces in Canada on this measure." (... under EXPENDITURES).

Your turn.
Tim replying to a comment from 3m / September 11, 2010 at 06:41 pm
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3m, bike lanes and other road features are not simply 'sentiments' gotten in a college class.

"Complete Streets", of which bike lanes are a part, is a recent discipline in urban and transportation planning. There's been a lot of research and success stories in this domain. Here's some more information from Transport Canada:
http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/programs/environment-utsp-casestudy-cs72e-completestreets-812.htm

Everybody vote Sarah Thomson !!
Jordan / September 11, 2010 at 06:41 pm
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Finally someone comes up with somewhat useful ideas in this campaign. I don't think this is enough to make me vote Thomson, but it is good to see someone having a little bit of vision for the whole city.

Tim replying to a comment from Jordan / September 11, 2010 at 06:48 pm
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Bike City isn't the only cool thing. If you want to see the rest of her platform, see it here:
http://www.sarahthomson.ca/platform

It's pretty impressive.
o.k. / September 11, 2010 at 07:59 pm
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What's enough for a 'vote' for Thomson though? I see alot of comments listing this. The alternatives are at best.. well crap, so what issues will sway you to pencil in a candidate come election day?

All of the candidates have pretty much stated there plans (if they had any).. so just wondering if people are still on the fence or have just don't want to waste a vote on a backrunner like Thomson?

The Shakes replying to a comment from picard102 / September 11, 2010 at 08:12 pm
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If the suburban Toronto drivers actually stopped and thought about it, they'd realize they have the most to gain under Thomson's various transportation plans. She is the only one proposing highway tolls to fund transit expansion, which will reduce the number of 905'ers on the road and reduce congestion on day one.
Ted C. replying to a comment from Jordan / September 11, 2010 at 08:19 pm
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It's not just bikes. She also has great policies on the environment, architecture, and transit.
Marc / September 11, 2010 at 08:48 pm
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That is precisely it. Thomson is the one with the most territory covered, and with the most innovation. She was also the one to be first to announce those ideas, and at this point, she is still the ONLY candidate to even say or come up with them, or any. If there is sanity and common sense with people, both Ford and Thomson should be 1-2 in the race. Ford has the straightforward approach in politics (which is what Toronto desperately needs), while Thomson has the innovation and the ideal combination of planning/designing with political planning. I'd like to see Ford win but Thomson as Vice-Mayor or something along the lines like that. He'll do the running, tackling of affairs and leading of city affairs, while Thomson covers the city planning, design (see her building plan idea) innovation and beautification aspects.
over here replying to a comment from Ted C. / September 11, 2010 at 10:08 pm
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While her plan for transit sounds ideal, finding away to afford it seems unachievable at best.
Jordan / September 11, 2010 at 10:12 pm
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She does seem to have some good ideas - although I think most people will write her off for charging road tolls to build subways. I really don't think most people could stomach that - people get angry enough about putting in bike lines. It also seems like a pretty bad idea just to write off transit city - it's a plan that's nearly 8 years in the making - to completely mothball it delays transit from reaching the outer suburbs for another 8 to 10 years.... I mean, subway lines don't just appear magically. Subways take years of environmental assessments, planning and design, and construction - at costs and times which far exceed building LRT lines. These giant proposed subway lines make the candidates look naive - I think most people know these plans will never see the light of day. There are times I wish politicians would work more like corporations - setting a plan once and taking it through to completion. I think if Thompson endorsed Transit City - perhaps with a few minor tweaks of her own - I could vote for her. An example of a tweak - add in heated shelters at every stop.






electric / September 11, 2010 at 10:20 pm
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Rob Ford: "Don't change anything. Bicycles don't belong on the road, Toronto needs to be like Detroit with empty streets for speeding cars. I have no plan, i'm just going to cut stuff."

Sarah Thomson: "The city needs improvement of livability. Lets get everybody out there moving around the city efficiently and in a safe/healthy manner. Here is my plan."

Rob Ford, dum dum dum dum dum.

Sarah Thomson, smart smart smart smart smart!
bullring / September 11, 2010 at 10:53 pm
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Who said I'm a Ford supporter?

I just want to know where I can ride my gravy train?
Tim replying to a comment from Jordan / September 11, 2010 at 11:08 pm
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Hey Jordan, good points wrt subway operational complexity.

Sarah Thomson said that the first priority subway line will be a Downtown Relief Line (DRL). A DRL line has seen many plans including a recent ongoing feasibility study ( http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/toronto/archive/2009/08/24/ttc-to-begin-drl-study-this-fall.aspx ) . Note here that a DRL line has been in consideration in Transit City (ie. we're not scrapping Transit City). Thomson would not be starting from scratch in terms of design & resources.
Tim / September 11, 2010 at 11:16 pm
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Here's some more links on the DRL. It includes City Coucil's discussions on the benefits of a DRL line. This should have already been built. The only thing holding it back was (Mike Harris) and is (inertia) political will.

http://spacingtoronto.ca/2009/01/29/city-council-boards-the-drl-bandwagon
http://stevemunro.ca/?p=1589
Tim replying to a comment from bullring / September 11, 2010 at 11:21 pm
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My bad 'bullring'. The prospect of someone who advocates PUBLIC LYNCHINGS has me terrified, lol. See 'Rob Ford on Homeless Shelters' here:
http://www.fordonford.com/videos
Tim replying to a comment from bullring / September 11, 2010 at 11:28 pm
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My bad 'bullring'. I'm just terrified at the idea of a mayor who advocates PUBLIC LYNCHINGS. See '' here:
http://www.fordonford.com/videos
James / September 11, 2010 at 11:35 pm
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I'm totally for the idea of making things more favorable to cycling... but a speed limit of 50km/h on arterial roads in the suburbs is a non-starter. If this is an accurate report, she just blew a lot of votes. With platforms like this, get used to the idea of Mayor Ford.
munki replying to a comment from craig / September 12, 2010 at 12:06 am
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how bout we ticket the cyclist who don't act like vehicles? i see more of that than anything else. bikes running stop signs and red lights, using pedestrian cross walks, or worse, riding on the sidewalk. if they want to make money off of cyclist in this city, ticket more of them, or better yet...how about requiring a bicycle license? hmm...i like that idea. they are vehicles after all.
Sean / September 12, 2010 at 12:20 am
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When people that are running for mayor and are using the cycle theme as their main speech, I don't vote for them. There are a lot more important things to talk about.
Ted C. replying to a comment from Jordan / September 12, 2010 at 07:36 am
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@Jordan: The great thing about Sarah Thomson's road tolls is that people living in Toronto won't be charged. As far as I understand it, it's a charge for coming into Toronto from other parts of the GTA during rush hour.

There's no reason for any of the Rob Ford supporters in Etobicoke to be upset about it.
Jordan / September 12, 2010 at 11:04 am
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I'm well aware of the plan for the downtown relief line - although I doubt it's effectiveness in dealing with Thomson's proposed subway expansion. If you're considerably adding subway lines to the north of Bloor - the lines that need the relief the most will be the north/south ones, not the Bloor/Danforth line. If you're going southbound on the yonge line in the morning - it's already a nightmare - adding a few thousand more people into the mix will only make the problem worse. There is at least some address of this in the Transit City plan with the Jane and Don Mills Lines. It might be smart to connect your version of the DRL up to the new proposed Eglinton Line.

As for the Road Tolls - again, in theory they sound great. But I would argue no one is going to go near anyone that has the words 'road toll' in their platform - even if the fine print sounds okay.

And yes - if you do change most of Transit City into subways you are pretty much starting from scratch. Just because both lines go down the same road doesn't mean much in terms of design. To build a subway, you need to design subway stations, acquire land, relocate utilities, and uh - build a giant concrete tunnel. Compare that with the simplicities of building LRTs - ie, popping some tracks into asphalt with a few guard rails on either side. The design and approvals process is completely different, and it will take years to implement.






Richard replying to a comment from craig / September 12, 2010 at 11:23 am
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Can't have it both ways...unlike cars there are no licenses and no insurance and seemingly no attention paid to the rules of the road (regarding helmets, stopping for lights, stopping for streetcars open doors, etc.). And unlike cars, bicycles are always on sidewalks and pedestrian paths (even ones that explicitly say no bicycles).

I support any plan that makes it better and safer for bicycles on the roads (I'm happily surprised that the combination of shitty drives and shitty bicyclists hasn't resulted in more accidents), and that also takes bicycles off of pedestrian routes. Nothing is more annoying than walking and having a bicyclist clip you, or walking through a busy street festival that says no bikes allowed, and having bicyclists bumping into people every (like at the recent festival in Little Italy).
ExPat replying to a comment from Ted C. / September 12, 2010 at 12:50 pm
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If a Torontonian has to leave Toronto for a trip or for business, they'll get dinged by a road tool too. Every time I need to take a trip outside NY, I get dinged on the GWB or Lincoln Tunnel.
James / September 12, 2010 at 05:57 pm
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I'm looking hard at that map... is Sarah actually promising anything? What is a bicycle boulevard? Looks like every regular street. For my area I think I'm seeing no change. At least Rob Ford promised to complete the existing bike plan.
Patrick replying to a comment from Richard / September 12, 2010 at 06:02 pm
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First of all, there is no requirement (for adults) to wear a helmet while cycling in Toronto, so it's a bit silly to use that as an example of cyclists not following the rules. (I support helmet-wearing, but not red herrings.) Furthermore, it's ridiculous to say that "cyclists" don't follow the rules of the road... it would be like me saying that "drivers" make phone calls, compose text messages, or read magazines while driving. I've seen individual drivers do these things (on the Gardiner expressway and 401), but it would be unfair to say that "drivers" as a group make these ass-stupid choices. And cyclists on the sidewalk are annoying, but at least in my neighbourhood there are a LOT more cars on the sidewalk (parked), forcing pedestrians to walk on the road to get around them. It seems like people in general just don't follow rules.

But more importantly, the licensing/insurance issue is absurd. It's like pointing out that you need a license to own a shotgun, but not to own a butter knife. Cars kill people (usually cyclists and pedestrians), and cause property damage (usually other cars). It's possible to kill someone with your bike, but comparing the two is a lot like comparing shotguns and butter knives. In effect, you're saying that bicycles don't count as vehicles because they don't pose a large enough public hazard.
Tony / September 12, 2010 at 07:37 pm
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Kudos to the candidate for placing alternative transportation and a livable, walkable community into the election debate.
Sarahs Gotmyvote / September 12, 2010 at 08:01 pm
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I haven't voted in 18 years. For the first time, I think I'm actually going to care and vote for Sarah.
Marlon / September 12, 2010 at 08:41 pm
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When this election started Thomson was the far right candidate. Ford owns the far right. George smitherman is a complete moron and has instead of going left and working to pick up the other half he has decided to be ford and is trying in vain to pick up votes of conservatives who can't stand him. Pantalone is either way to shy to run a decent campaign or is waiting to make an 11th hour announcement. Thomson has made a smart move in posing as the left wings candidate. Unfortunately it's smart but it isn't real
Ted C. replying to a comment from Marlon / September 13, 2010 at 10:23 am
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I've always heard Sarah Thomson describe herself as "socially liberal, fiscally conservative".

But really, if she cares about the environment and infrastructure, I don't care whether her motives are social or economic.
Eric26 replying to a comment from Richard / September 13, 2010 at 12:51 pm
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A lot of cyclists and a lot of motorists are douches, as are most people (I'm not a misanthrope, I swear...)
I definitely think that there should be more police who actually bother to ticket both people for the variety of stupid things that they do in the city.
No one seems to care that the pedestrian crossing phase of a crosswalk is for PEDESTRIANS. A cyclist had the nerve to scream, "GET OUT OF MY WAY!" as I was crossing the street in a perfectly legal manner. Of course I started frothing at the mouth and screaming at him because, you know, that helps...
Bri / September 13, 2010 at 02:30 pm
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Sarah's got my vote!
marlon replying to a comment from Ted C. / September 13, 2010 at 04:32 pm
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oh, so she is a compassionate conservative? lol. here is the thing she is playing to the left crowd with a bike lane but the reality is she sees Toronto as an asset... to be sold. Her main intention is to sell all of our services off to provide businesses. She doesn't talk about it now because she knows that it isn't what people want. That is her priority, this bike lane idea is a scheme to gain attention from the anti-ford crowd.
gadfly / September 17, 2010 at 07:54 am
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She has no hope of winning.. enough said.
gadfly replying to a comment from Patrick / September 17, 2010 at 07:57 am
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NO, it's about paying your own way, buddy. If the bicycles are 'entitled' to sharing the road, then they should also 'share' the costs. For zero investment, a cyclist automatically gets an entire lane?
The inconvenient truth is that bicycles are too slow for roads and too fast for sidewalks.

All I can say is that I am glad the cooler days are coming when the bicycles are put back in storage and sanity returns to the streets.
diga / September 17, 2010 at 10:11 am
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Marlon, do you have a source/sources for this claim: "Her main intention is to sell all of our services off to provide businesses."? Or is this conjecture based on...what, exactly?

I'm puzzled when people suggest cyclists should "share the costs." It's not enough that they pay taxes that go toward maintaining roads largely due to the wear and tear that cars and trucks wreak - despite the fact that bicycles put barely any stress on roads? Cycling is a more eco-friendly, quieter, and safer (for pedestrians) form of transport, so, just as there are tax breaks for an energy-efficient appliance, it makes sense that cyclists don't have to invest as much as motorists. If bicycles do have to pay a fee to license their "vehicle," which isn't a totally crazy idea, it should be a minimal fee. And insurance would be ridiculous. How much damage can a bike actually cause that would make more sense to pay for insurance than to pay for the damage out of pocket? If you're thinking it would cover damage if a car has to swerve to avoid a bike, you might as well also require that pedestrians and stray cats be insured.

Agreed that cyclists should follow rules of the road. Of course, it would be a lot easier to do if the city had the proper infrastructure for bikes and if motorists treated bikes like vehicles (e.g. allowing them to turn left or merge, and acknowledging them at a 4-way stop). Also agreed that cyclists should be ticketed when they break the law. Oh wait, they already ARE. Ticketing of cyclists has increased dramatically in the past year especially.

Thompson's plans sound pie-in-the-sky, but at least she has the balls to suggest some forward-thinking changes. This city is crumbling, and those of us who live within its borders need to seriously think about how we can make it not only more livable, but more vibrant so we attract more tourism and business. Being bike-friendly, pedestrian-friendly, green, and progressive would be a great face for a city that at the moment has not many defining characteristics.
munki replying to a comment from diga / September 17, 2010 at 11:20 am
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if you ask me, cyclists are not ticketed nearly enough. i'm not saying that all cyclists suck at riding and obeying the laws, but there are, indisputably, FAR too many that do. And yes the same can be said about motorists, but i rarely see a car run the red light at queen and ossignton (which is about 50 feet from my apartment), something that i see countless cyclists do on a daily basis. and i can honestly say that i have never seen a car drive on the sidewalk, unlike the dozen or so cyclists i see doing everyday (many at ridiculous speeds) on my walk to work. a lot of people argue that cyclists deserve to be treated like vehicles, and i totally agree with that. however, it might help if more cyclists actually ACTED like vehicles. there are too many of them out there that think they have more right of way than any car or pedestrian. which is absolutely false. it would be nice to have a safer city, with bike lanes everywhere, but lets face it, a lot of cyclists don't use the ones that exist now. maybe if more cyclists acted like they deserved more bike lanes, they would get more bike lanes.
gadfly replying to a comment from diga / September 17, 2010 at 06:42 pm
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Okay, so diga is perplexed about why cyclists should share the costs of roads.. Hmm, let me see: if an entire lane on Jarvis was given over to cylcists, then that is 20% of the roadway - is that not worth anything? Or if a street has no bicycle lane and motorists doing 50 km/hr have to merge into the only remaining lane or slow down to the 15 km/hr the bicycle is doing, thus causing traffic to pile up behind it - is that not worth anything?
Without getting into a huge debate about the tax burdens and where each level of government spends their money, sufficeth to say that the $3,000 in combined taxes the average motorist would pay upon purchase of their vehicle, the $20+ per tank of fuel taxes, and the $60 million in PROFIT the city makes on parking revenue (after expenses!) plus the $65million freebie Miller gouged us for 2 years ago in license fees for doing absolutely nothing - well, that is just the tip of the iceberg.
The fact is most of the road damage is done by the trucks and buses, not cars. Witness any of the bus pull over lanes along Steeles, Sheppard, Pharmacy etc - the bus pull over lane is literally a ditch!
Anyway, the cycling season is almost over and the city can return to sanity at least for the winter months.
Patrick replying to a comment from gadfly / September 18, 2010 at 11:48 am
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No, "sufficeth to say" that private automobiles are EXTREMELY expensive and inefficient. That's why they cost you so much to operate, and that cost is only part of the full cost, a very large chunk of which is borne by other people. The roads (and other car infrastructure) in Toronto are paid for in large parts by taxes (from various levels), and I'm sorry but the direct taxes on cars and fuel don't cover that. I understand that it feels like you're paying a lot, but that doesn't mean that you're paying too much, or even close to enough. And of course there are other (massive) costs associated with cars, including economic waste resulting from congestion, and the staggering land value of the roads themselves, to name a few. Anyone who has studied the costs of transportation in North America knows that private cars are massively subsidized, and people like me (who don't own a car) are contributing to this hand-out. You can make arguments about trucks and busses using the same roads, but the numbers don't lie... the cars generate the lion's share of the cost. Car driving is only as popular as it is in North America because it's a means of transportation that allows you to force other people to pay many of your costs. Despite the reputation that public transit gets, private cars are the welfare transportation system. People who ride bikes CERTAINLY cover the costs associated with a few bike lanes (and they really are few at this point, probably less than 0.1% of road space in Toronto, which is far less than the proportion of people who use bicycles).

Now, bikes might be too fast for sidewalks, and too slow for roads, but that seems to me to be a good case for bike lanes. If we someone wants to organize a program of installing separated bike lanes along all of the roads in Toronto, Netherlands-style, I'll get behind it, but if that's too expensive I'll settle for painted bike lanes. In any case, the underlying assumption (that bikes are too slow for roads, as opposed to cars being too fast for roads) is still that cyclists should only be allowed to the extent that it doesn't negatively impact driving, which I don't think you seriously mean.
gadfly replying to a comment from Patrick / September 18, 2010 at 06:45 pm
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Patrick, those figures are total BS and you know it. Even the Toronto Star admitted a few weeks ago that the Province collects $2.6 billion in gasoline taxes but only puts $2b back into roads.
I don't mind paying my fair share, I just deeply resent that bicycles don't pay ANYTHING and the TTC is a sinkhole - or why else does it get nearly a 16% of the city's budget (1.458 BILLION - I need to spell that out for you, apparently!); whereas, the transportation budget gets a measly 3.1% (not even close to $300 MILLION).
Hmm, let's see - THAT MEANS THAT THE 70+% THAT DRIVE ARE SUBSIDIZING LIKE HELL THE LESS THAN 20% THAT TAKE THE TRANSIT.

Ford has realized that those of us paying taxes are fed up with the gouging. I am not saying the TTC should get less, but that the roads should get more.

Buddy, your numbers are crap by any measure. Our roads are choked with trucks and buses, yet it's so easy to blame those nasty 905 commuters for everything.
Patrick replying to a comment from gadfly / September 22, 2010 at 02:26 pm
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Ok, so I wrote a longer response, but the internet ate it.  Basically:

1) I was just on the Gardiner yesterday morning.  At a bare minimum, 95% of vehicles I saw were single-occupant cars/SUVs.  The roads were choked, alright, but busses and trucks were drops in the ocean.

2) The claim that cyclists don't pay "ANYTHING" for the roads is obviously a lie: about 5% of the property tax I pay on my house in Toronto goes to roads.  If there's some sort of opt-out for cyclists, please let me know, but my chequebook tells me that we DO PAY for the roads (and the traffic cops, and the ambulance staff that pick up the injured, and...)

3) It's true that the 2010 TTC operating budget is $1.4 billion.  What you failed to point out is that that includes about $1 billion in REVENUE that the TTC brings in (this doesn't apply to other Canadian cities, some of which are much more progressive than Toronto, but here transit is about 70% funded by fares, with additional revenue coming from advertising).  The total operating subsidy of the TTC (from all sources) is more like $350 million.  It's a bit misleading to say that the TTC "costs the city" $1.4 billion, when most of that money comes directly from riders, not from the city.

4) I haven't looked in to the provincial numbers, but I'm skeptical.  First of all, the Star is counting the total income from the gas tax, but are they counting the total expense?  Or are they just counting things explicitly stamped "highway maintenance"?  There are a lot of other costs associated with highways (some of which get counted in other places, and some of which never get counted).  Are they counting money transfered to cities, for THEIR road costs?  And finally, even if it's all true, and the province is gouging drivers on the gas tax, it's a big jump from that to saying that they're putting that money into transit and bike lanes.  Isn't it possible that they're just building a big tennis court at Queen's Park (or some other, less implausible, project)?

You've provided some specific examples, which sketchy accounting, but the more comprehensive studies I've seen all come to a very different conclusion.

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