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Is BIXI on the brink?
The question of whether or not the BIXI bike-sharing program will come to Toronto looks like it's going to come down to the wire. With the city council-imposed November 30 deadline to reach 1000 subscriptions just over two months away, the program has around 600 subscribers.
Given that the BIXI launch party took place on July 28, that number should indicate a subscription pace that'll meet the required number. But, unfortunately, that's by no means a sure bet. On the one hand, it'll be difficult to reproduce the surge of subscribers that signed up when the the program was launched, though some fence-sitters may take the plunge as the deadline becomes imminent. And on the other, I fear the coming cold weather may numb public interest levels.
Perhaps most problematic of all is that one gets the sense that many think BIXI is a done deal. As the event description for tonight's meeting to help promote the program at the Centre for Social Innovation reads, "right now almost 3 times as many people are Facebook fans of BIXI Toronto than are subscribed."
There are a plethora of possible reasons for this differential between subscribers and "fans." Some, for instance, love the idea of BIXI, but are already hardcore commuters who don't feel they'd benefit from the program. While they want to support BIXI, they don't feel it makes sense to do so financially given their riding habits. But, it's a distinct possibility that a key factor in imbalance between vocal or written "support" and actual subscriptions comes down to a misunderstanding that Toronto has already secured the program.
Although anecdotal, I've heard numerous people make statements to this effect over the last two months. And though BIXI has had a number of pop-up demonstrations to drum up support - which have admittedly been modestly successful - I get the sense that a more dramatic campaign might be necessary to ensure that those even vaguely interested in the program understand that without the requisite number of subscribers, BIXI Toronto just won't materialize.
So, please forgive the alarmist headline - but I think BIXI would be great for Toronto, and I'd rather suggest that the program is in danger than applaud the organizers' efforts to this point, as admirable as they may have been securing sponsorship funds and the 600 or so current subscribers. With two months of cooler temperatures to come, some urgency seems to be in order.
Update (4:00 p.m.)
Biking Toronto has stats on BIXI subscriptions rates, which would put the total at 924 on November 30, 2010. Check their post out here.
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Where are the ads?
ING Direct is a major BIXI sponsor?
Maybe someone could get their head out of their as$ and get ING's ad agency (GWP) to make some ads for them.
I also think the service area will expand eventually, it must as it would increase subscriptions. However, I can see how weird it is to expect 1000 subscribers across a limited service area, such that people in these areas already own a metropass or own their own bike.
It's telling that they launched at the Gladstone. That, not the Financial District, is their home base.
However, I would love to see TTC get involved in the Bixi program, because it could probably attract more cyclists to use public transit, and in the same time more TTC riders to hop on a bike.
Why would anyone pay BIXI an annual fee of $95, when Autoshare's annual fee is $39 or less. And even if you didn't have a license, at $95/ year there is no incentive to be a long term member, you can buy a better bicycle after 3 years of subscription.
So say you do the $5 per use, if you want to just do infrequent short trips, the TTC is cheaper and you can ride TTC all day for a token, BIXI's price continues to increase by the hour.
$95 upfront for a very limited zone coverage. The Paris program is half that for a 1 year enrolment and the bikes are absolutely everywhere.
Daily use there is E1, about $1.35. Toronto is going to charge $5. for a daily use.
Not exactly making it the "slam-dunk" it should be.
More info sharing needed on the Bixi site (plans for service area rollout??), presence at city/community events, online/viral marketing campaigns. Where are the witty youtube videos? You've got ING now so kick it up a notch!
They don't have a chance, because it's almost totally useless. I really wish they could expand. Zipcar and Autoshare thrive because they service the entire city, not just distances that are already walkable and/or served by transit.
I really like BIXI in Montreal and the Paris equivalent, and I'm hoping to see a made-in-Toronto bike sharing service in the near future.
I'd love to sign up, but haven't even seen a BIXI docking station anywhere... I live west of Spadina so the current service area doesn't really make it feasible for me to get a membership...
Shame this is an excellent program; hope Toronto doesn't fumble with the ball on this one.
A 3-1 ratio of fans to subscribers is actually pretty poor given the extremely low bar to hit "like" on something.
I think it would be a great service and from my experience of being a tourist in Paris, Dublin & Montreal it is the greatest way of getting around when you get to a place.
Sadly, I have a bike already and use it to get most places in the city. I can't imagine subscribing to this service but in saying that, maybe the focus should be more on the tourist influx to Toronto. It is a very cycleable city and the introduction of this service could only be a benefit.
Hopefully this happens!
BIXI can only be good for Toronto. Any biker/environmentalist/health nut who doesn't see this is lacking vision. More bikes = more/improved lanes/infrastructure.
In the interim, purchase the membership and give it to a friend who lives in the area, or gift it to someone. This project relies on a strong community behind it. Btw, if the program doesn't launch you get your money refunded. What is there to lose?
I agree with other comments that a more visible campaign needs to be present if this thing is going to work. I'm surprised that the BIXI folks aren't partnering with more orgs to make this happen and spread the word. Only 400 more to go, we can do this Toronto!
Nonetheless, I will sign up for Bixi before November 30 because I want to see this program happen. A sacrifice for the greater good I suppose. Hopefully from its modest beginnings it will grow into something great.
We can sit and complain about the program (a program badly needed in this city) or help it get off its feet. From the success of the Montreal program it is easy to see that Bixi will invest in expansion if it has support.To build an entire Bixi network over the whole of Old Toronto in one fell swoop is quite the project, so we must be patient. Good things come to those who wait.
I will probably not use Bixi often, but I am sure it will get enough use from my friends when they visit me.
Plus, as others have pointed out there hasn't been much advertising. Even if they don't want to or can't install the stations ahead of time installing a flag or sign where the potential stations will be would certainly be noticed by locals and therefore get more subscribers.
Either way, I hope it does launch. I live in the zone and would certainly use it.
Let's stop thinking only "how can I benefit from Bixi", but how the City can!
But then that's what all these socialist programs are about: letting other people pay for it or do the heavy lifting, then showing up once its all done.
Which brings me to the problem most people are expressing - limited area coverage. I had a great talk with the guy who's in charge of Bixi and expressed to him this problem. I live downtown, but the service area is so small, that it's pretty much useless to me. This is what he said (paraphrased),
I agree. It is small. But the councillors didn't think Toronto wanted or needed this, so we were forced to accept this 1000 membership threshold in order to prove the desire. If you believe in the idea of Bixi, please sign up for a membership before Nov. 30. If we can get the numbers, we will work as hard as possible to expand the service area BEFORE LAUNCH next spring. If we haven't expanded it to the area you need, then you can cancel before the launch and your money will be completely refunded.
This made sense to me, so I signed up for a membership to help them reach the threshold and get the go ahead as it's really at zero cost to me if they don't expand.
I would encourage anyone who wants a nice big public bike transport infrastructure to do the same and make the leap of faith. If they don't follow through, it costs you nothing. If they do, we have a great new way to get around the city!!
Only those that benefit from the program now or within the future rollout plans (what are the plans?) should be expected to provide financial support. Kudos to those who can afford the $100 to support Bixi now.. but for the others, Benjamin was right - good things will come to those who wait. In the meantime we must spread the word and encourage others that stand to immediately benefit to sign up now (and Bixi: step up the campaign). Corporate sponsors and the people within the service area should be financing it at this stage - nobody should be vilified for waiting to see how they will benefit before investing - that's not socialism, it's capitalism.
I agree a few comments that bixi needs better advertising. I've only ONCE seen a bixie station trying to sell the idea. They need to do MORE of this!! what about ads on the Subway>>> Bixi is an extension of the public transit.. so anyone who takes the subway or public transit will likely benefit from it at some point.
Apparently, Bixi is having a party in October for all current subscribers (with free booze and food), asking each person to bring a friend to sign up... I;m guessing this will get a couple hundred new subsrcibers.
Spread the word, people... and sign up if you haven;t already done so!
NOBODY NEEDS A BIKE TO GET FROM SPADINA TO JARVIS.
Especially not some rental system.
They are starting the trial program in a box that's pretty much walkable, except on the diagonal. Plus they're running events at key target locations that won't even be in the service area? Only in Toronto.
As noted above, the service is also stupidly expensive if you're trying to establish a customer base amongst city residents. $5 is nothing if you're on holiday, but $5 everyday, in a tiny box, is just ridiculous.
This is one way to really improve the experience of the city, transit in the city, environment, etc and they are f-cking it up. And I'm someone who thinks Rob Ford is too left wing.
But hopefully some of you realize where the rage against the city comes from. Even with brilliant ideas that basically everyone agrees with - outside a few special interests - the city can't execute. They couldn't lead a piss up in a brewery, couldn't get laid in a whorehouse, they'd die of thirst in a rainstorm... These are the bureaucrats and politicians that drove the aphorism that if you put the government in charge of the Sahara, within 2 years there'd be shortage of sand.
As to the people saying support it despite it being completely bloody useless - if you run a start up, you set up your test run in the ideal market. Which would be, of course, Gladstone to Cherry, the Lake to College, being sure to exclude Regent Park/Cabbagetown (since you don't want all of the bikes destroyed). Seems like there are some saboteurs in the project, just as there were with a la cart.
I'm guessing that Bixi was rolled out in the one area with the highest concentration of subway stations because we're supposed to use it as an alternative to public transit (right?). But Bixi makes far more sense as an *extension* of public transit — a way of getting to the subway and/or cutting unreliable streetcars out one's commute entirely.
The real market for Bixi, as some have mentioned above, is in the communities AROUND downtown: the Annex, Queen West, Liberty Village, the Junction, the Distillery. It's a shame that the rollout plan couldn't have included satellite Bixi stalls in these areas with lockups at key subway stations.
I live on Harbord and Bathurst and would have loved to use Bixi. But not to go to/get around downtown. That's what I pay $120 for a Metropass for.
I've been a huge fan of Bixi ever since I was introduced to it in Montreal this year, and I wish them the best of luck implementing here. But I can't justify the subscription.
Newsflash, kiddies: we have seen this all before. What I find particularly astonishing is the number of old, white geezers that I see huffing to work on their bikes.. I mean - buddy, your in your late fifties and you can't afford a car?
[Ducks after typing that one]
But, seriously, if you folks want these social programs (which is what ALL bicycle support programs are since cyclists don't pay a dime into the system that they use - and don't let's go through that "I pay property taxes" BS), then you'd better step up and pay up.
For once, Council did something smart. Let you lazy socialists prove their is a demand for this system before Council puts other people's money behind it - again.
I WOULD use the pay-per-use option, though.
Besides, it's not just cars (those nasty 905 commuters who are invading OUR turf!) that use the roads. The TTC uses them, as do thousands upons thousands of trucks. Ban those nasty cars and the roads simply cannot evaporate.
@ James - not that I have to justify myself to you, but I'll meet you at the treadmill at Good Life on Bloor so we can look at the Bloor street debacle together anytime. See which one of us starts wheezing first! LMAO
Don't make assumptions about people who have different opinions than yourself. I just wonder why so many self-hating white folks are darned determined to destroy this city, is all. From where I sit (on Church St., waiting in traffic now, thanks to the Jarvis bike lanes!) most of the cyclists are my age and white. Wonder what is up with that!
It's just a shame that Toronto is being so cowardly in executing a half-assed Bixi with limited area AND then expecting 1000 people to lay down money in ADVANCE?
It's almost as if it's been set up to fail.
Honestly don't these councilors know that this program will encourage tourism, environmental commuting, reduce wear and tear on roads etc. etc.
I will go and subscribe today (even though we should not have to prove this in advance). I refuse to let this great opportunity pass.
>I agree. It is small. But the councillors didn't think Toronto wanted or needed this, so we were forced to accept this 1000 membership threshold in order to prove the desire. If you believe in the idea of Bixi, please sign up for a membership before Nov. 30. If we can get the numbers, we will work as hard as possible to expand the service area BEFORE LAUNCH next spring. If we haven't expanded it to the area you need, then you can cancel before the launch and your money will be completely refunded.
>This made sense to me, so I signed up for a membership to help them reach the threshold and get the go ahead as it's really at zero cost to me if they don't expand.
>I would encourage anyone who wants a nice big public bike transport infrastructure to do the same and make the leap of faith. If they don't follow through, it costs you nothing. If they do, we have a great new way to get around the city!!
The system had to start somewhere - BIXI chose the densest part of the city - lots of people live and work in that area.
Just to reiterate - the system hasn't started yet. It won't start until next Spring and it will only happen if 1000 people sign up! (toronto.bixi.com). Pass it on.
Someone in City Hall REALLY hates Bixi as this is just a plan for failure. Intentionally excising huge local natural demand centers and destinations while overlapping on areas where the typical trip is a less than 8 minute walk and impeccably served by subway, cab, streetcar, GO, VIA, and highway. The dead hand of a la cart strikes again.
I hope there are enough people who do meet the BIXI target and sign up, but i also hope that more pricing plans become available.
https://profile.toronto.bixi.com/member
"You may terminate the agreement between you and PBSC in accordance with the Agreement prior to the Goals being met or May 1, 2011. In the event of such termination, PBSC shall refund your subscription fee to the credit card it was originally charged to."
But $95/yr, why so expensive??? In Paris it costs €29/yr (approx. $40 including taxes)- the first 30 minutes are always free and after that you pay €0.5 per each additional 30 min. €1 for 1 day and €5 for 7 days. In Luxembourg you pay as little as €15/yr and in Milan €36/yr, €6/week and €2.5/day... and these are just a few examples. Surely Toronto must be able to match these rates?!?!?
I really really hope the system will happen because somehow we need to make it easier for people in Toronto (residents AND tourists) to get around in the city without a car! in order to make it an attractive city to live in, on the long term....
That has nothing to do with bicycles in Toronto. All Toronto streets are maintained from City revenue aka property taxes.
So stop it with the "cyclists don't pay for the roads" bullshit. It's tired.
Look up the budgets yourself. The fabrications, BS and exaggerations are tired - you are right. Where is all the money gone from the former street parking on Jarvis, for example? The cyclists who do actually have jobs pay into the system, but they do not pay anything extra.
FACT: gasoline taxes make up about 50% of what a motorist puts in their tank. Where does the money go? Into the rest of your favorite social programs, I would surmise.
FACT: the average new car costs about $20k. That's another $2,600 in combined taxes into the sink holes in Queen's Park and Ottawa. What do they do with that money? Who knows.
I pay $134 in license fees every year. What do you pay for your bicycle? Oh, that's right - NOTHING.
A good portion of my car insurance goes into the fund that pays for accidents involving skanks (like cyclists) that cause accidents who have no insurance.
The city makes over $45million in net PROFIT on their municipal parking lots. Where will that money come from if the psycle lobby gets their way? Ditto for parking tickets.
Buddy, you need a lesson in Economics 101, real quick. The TTC is a sinkhole and cyclists pay ZIP.
The facts are there for the asking, it's the spin on them that is a joke.
If the support isn't there it just isn't needed. If people don't subscribe then its not as needed as Bixi thinks. Maybe there just isn't that much demand for bike share inToronto? That's OK. I'm sure its like 1 in every 10 cities
Toronto is a city full of bikes and cyclists, we're already riding bikes here, and you can go onto craigslist Toronto any day of the week and get your own bike for under $100.
(fact: question is rhetorical)
Give people visual motivation
Also put a page visitor web counter on the page. Not everyone can afford $100 to sign up for a not-yet-built program. But 1000s of us want it and have visited the site in anticipation of the great program.
thanks.