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TTC Customer Service Panel recommendations only scratch the surface of Toronto's transit problems

Posted by Tomasz Bugajski / August 23, 2010

TTC Advisory PanelThe TTC's Customer Service Advisory Panel released its findings on Monday morning at the Ted Rogers School of Management. The report, titled Improving The TTC Experience: Laying the Tracks for a New Era of Customer Service, contains 78 recommendations to improve service.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, the first recommendation is for the creation of a Customer Service Officer.

Gary Webster, TTC Chief General Manager, and Adam Giambrone listened silently at the back of the room as panel chair Steve O'Brien spoke to the media. After the conference, Giambrone and Webster welcomed the committee's recommendations and promised to hire a Customer Service Officer immediately.

In a statement released after the conference, Mayor David Miller said: "This report finds that while the TTC is an excellent transit system, staffed by a dedicated and professional workforce, there is room for improvement.... I am pleased that the commission and management will be acting swiftly on the report's recommendations to ensure it gets even better."

TTC Customer Service panelThe TTC will report back in September with a detailed work plan explaining how it'll go about implementing the rest of the recommendations. But even though Mayor Miller wouldn't acknowledge this, the report only scratches the surface of the TTC's problems.

Last January when the sleeping booth collector photo first appeared, anger with the TTC peaked to new levels. Bad customer service and dirty subway stations were among the reasons, but this was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Riders have been dealing with an inefficient and limited transit system for decades, and they just couldn't take it anymore. Fixing customer service issues will help, but rider anger is bound to return if broader issues aren't addressed.

20100823---TTC-Adv2.jpgWhile I'm happy that this report was released I'm worried it might be an excuse for the TTC to limit its vision. What we really need is for the TTC, along with the entire city, to push for an expanded transit system that can take us to more destinations faster.

A friendly booth collector might be pleasant, but it's only a token gesture as long as driving remains, in many cases, a more comfortable and faster way to get around the city. It won't be easy to build a superior transit system -- history has proven that -- but we mustn't be satisfied with these "soft" service improvements, when the system is in dire need of additional vehicles and expanded underground and surface routes.

But, I suppose this is at least a step in the right direction.

Here are some highlights of the panel's proposals (full PDF here):

  • The hiring of a Chief Customer Service Officer "whose sole responsibility is to ensure that everyone within the organization understands what constitutes good service."
  • An image/brand improvement plan, which would include community involvement, public sessions on transit, a customer appreciation day, and a marketing campaign focused on positive public relations.
  • Communication with customers should be improved with touch-screen information kiosks, improved direction and platform screens, and the addition of signs at station entrances to highlight delays across the system.
  • The installation of screens at collector booths, buses, and streetcars to inform riders of delays or when vehicles reach capacity.
  • Updated subway and streetcar maps, and providing real time updates on the TTC website.
  • A review of customer service training for TTC employees.
  • Convenient fare systems are recommended that offer customers the capability to pay fares using non-cash methods such as credit or debit cards.
  • More emphasis should be placed on up keeping amenities, such as bathrooms and water fountains, and on providing healthy food choices.
  • Finally, the report also chastises rude riders and says that customers must do their part by following regulations and by-laws. "Courtesy is a two-way street...Throughout CSAP's work, it became apparent that not all customers are courteous and respectful," the report says.

Discussion

39 Comments

Brandon / August 23, 2010 at 03:50 pm
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"...the TTC is an excellent transit system, staffed by a dedicated and professional workforce..." Pretty sure Miller pulled that one out of his ass. The system over-strained, has poor upkeep and maintenance, and boasts some of the rudest and most unenthusiastic public servants one can find in this city. Something tells me I can count the number of times Miller has rode the TTC on one hand, and obviously the workers were courteous to him since he's the mayor and all. Now this will give them something else to focus on instead of improving the actual system itself.
rick mcginnis / August 23, 2010 at 03:50 pm
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"Communication with customers should be improved with touch-screen information kiosks, improved direction and platform screens, and the addition of signs at station entrances to highlight delays across the system."

Translated from the bureaucratese:

"Expensive stuff that we've never used and will likely break will make a short-lived but flashy show of addressing systemic problems we're simply too stubborn, lazy or unable to solve."

Worst of all the report doesn't talk about the implementation of a "smart" fare card - Hamilton has them, people - but the possibility that we may have them one day. Which is so insulting that I'm amazed - once again - that Adam Giambrone hasn't been burned in effigy weekly for that past five years.
Mike / August 23, 2010 at 03:55 pm
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I wonder if the screens they're talking about installing will work any better than the ones that they already have. Last week I stood for 10 minutes on the platform at Yonge station with the screen telling me the next train was coming in 6 minutes for the entire time.
Diane Devenyi / August 23, 2010 at 03:57 pm
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The best way to improve customer service is to include TTC staff and customers in a cooperative event. How about having a monthly contest where riders can catch staff doing great things, being funny, happy, thoughtful, etc and rewarding the best video of the month with a Metropass? How about a contest that assigns different community groups with the task of keeping one bathroom sparkling clean for a week and featuring the group's efforts and rider appreciation--and awarding metropasses to the most popular bathroom keepers?
Let's make it fun, people!
Shannon replying to a comment from Diane Devenyi / August 23, 2010 at 04:02 pm
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No way. It's easier to b!tch and moan about things without making change. My generation is deserves to be served hand on foot.

KL / August 23, 2010 at 04:04 pm
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Chief Customer Service Officer? Yes, that's exactly what this overextended money pit of a system needs- another suit afforded a corner office via cronyism. The panel just gave a high-ranking TTC manager's cousin a job for life.

It's stunning that in the year 2010, TTC will have to HIRE someone to tell their employees that it's not appropriate to tell people to go screw themselves, fall asleep on the job, or threaten violence.

The Shakes / August 23, 2010 at 04:05 pm
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Plain and simple - if an employee actually needs to be trained on how to provide customer service, then they shouldn't be in a customer service role. What the F is training and a Customer Service Officer going to do? Unless this CSO is riding the transit undercover and firing the TTC employees that make a sport out of being dicks, nothing will change. It's just another 100K+ chump on the payroll.
The Shakes / August 23, 2010 at 04:07 pm
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And before you go spending more money on new blinky signs, can someone please fix the speakers and P.A. system?
rick mcginnis replying to a comment from The Shakes / August 23, 2010 at 04:13 pm
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Agreed - the computerized stop announcement system installed just a couple of years ago is already starting to break down; I've taken too many trips where a system error code has scrolled back and forth on the LED sign instead of the stop names. If they can't get this right, I despair at how badly they'll screw up touchscreen kiosks.

And forget what I said about the fare cards - another thing that'll be sourced poorly, implemented badly, and maintained with dismal results. Sometimes despair seems like the only sane reaction.
TTC Loudspeakers / August 23, 2010 at 04:15 pm
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*garrrrrble* *garrrrrrrble* To all passengers on the *garrrble* Line, we are experiencing *garrrrrble* *squeek* *bzzzzzzzzzzz* at our *garrrrble* Station. Response personnel is on the scene and we expect to have this situation resolved *garrrble*. For your convenience, *garrrrrble*. We apologize for the inconvenience.
Daniel / August 23, 2010 at 04:15 pm
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So......when's the next fare hike?
Brian / August 23, 2010 at 04:22 pm
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As long as there is no presto I'm happy.
donnie / August 23, 2010 at 04:39 pm
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"Customer Service Advisory Panel released its findings ... at the Ted Rogers School of Management"... Customer Service/Rogers, ya that works. And I suppose they didn't even notice the irony.
bubba / August 23, 2010 at 05:10 pm
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First and foremost people who take the ttc are not "riders" they are paying customers (70% of their operating budget comes from us), the sooner the ttc realizes and understands that the better. It would have been nice to have seen an actual ttc customer on the panel as apposed to CEO's who very rarely take public transit. The idea of doing PR and community events is all fine but if the service is terrible what's the point. The ttc needs to get their act together and be aggressive when it comes to funding and getting long term funding from all levels of government, none of this one off crap, it needs to be consistent and for the long haul so to speak. As long as their service is on time and consistent and grows with the city the little things will get done. People are just sick and tired of waiting and waiting and waiting and even more waiting and then having to deal with the consequences of an underfunded transit system and empty promises.
Mike W replying to a comment from Brian / August 23, 2010 at 05:24 pm
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Whats wrong with presto?
Alison / August 23, 2010 at 06:10 pm
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Standing in a warm TTC station (like Spadina for example), does not need a blinky sign that tells you when the next streetcar is coming. That guy with the book that stands there can tell you. Where we need signs is at BUS stops all over this godforsaken city - you are out in the middle of nowhere, freezing cold & waiting for a bus that is really late, or 3 come at one time. Don't spend the $$$ on more blinky signs in a subway station (who cares?), but spend it at a bus stop! Makes total sense to me!!!
Better "hard signs" in some of the stations (such as where to exit!!!) would be helpful.
So when IS the next fare hike? I'm only guessing it's going to happen because Giam(boner) will announce it soon because he was told to clean up. He doesn't like anyone to tell him what to do, so he makes everyone suffer for being short sighted.
Shannon / August 23, 2010 at 06:16 pm
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the only one i think they will implement:

Updated subway and streetcar maps, and providing real time updates on the TTC website.

the rest the TTC will say they are too broke to do.
mike / August 23, 2010 at 06:38 pm
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um...who is the cutie between the old fogeys? i may have a few recommendations for her.
Ken Wood / August 23, 2010 at 07:20 pm
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My Recommendations:
1. Make the politician oversight for the TTC be a SEPARATE elected position, not a plum job handed out by a mayor to an inexperienced friend. Think like the USA who elect Sheriff, Judges...you have to have the necessary industry qualifications first, then run with a vision.
2. Make the TTC an essential service as it is the lifeflow of most of the city's inhabitants or should be given economic and environmental considerations.
3. Vision: A FREE public transit within 25 years, with necessary support from federal and provincial governments.
4. Stop having engineers running the TTC like its somebody's railway system. We already know it doesn't work in traffic gridlock, plus - engineers have no concept of customer service. People don't need cars in convoys passing them by - they need thoughtful drivers who wait at connecting intersections when they see a crowd.
5. A public suggestion website where everyone's ideas are posted and others able to comment or enhance them freely.

Why do we need more of the same spin, hiring a customer service guru and politicians putting their stamp on a (no doubt) edited report filled with "happy thoughts"...

Citizen participation, not empty rhetoric please.
W. K. Lis / August 23, 2010 at 07:25 pm
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Without an operating subsidy (which all of the other North American transit authorities get) from the province and/or federal governments, which still has not been reinstated since the Harris years, we continue to be running the TTC well short of the service it should be at.
E.D. / August 23, 2010 at 07:39 pm
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"The hiring of a Chief Customer Service Officer "whose sole responsibility is to ensure that everyone within the organization understands what constitutes good service.""

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Doesn't someone on the TTC already have this role in their job description? I'm pretty sure that all TTC employees get some kind of training (as minimal as it seems to be) that was implemented by a higher up who wrote the guidelines. Oh, right, that would mean waking that over-payed underachiever from their nap. My bad. Better to hire someone new to do the same job.


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"An image/brand improvement plan, which would include community involvement, public sessions on transit, a customer appreciation day, and a marketing campaign focused on positive public relations."

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Image improvement will only help if there is an actual image that you can keep up. You can spend tons of money on an ad campaign speaking about the virtues of TTC employees while it slowly pans over the faces of smiling TTC employees, but it won't last for long if that same employee calls you a profanity on your morning commute.

And how about instead of "public sessions on transit" we have some "internal sessions on transit" that would teach TTC employees that transit is for moving the citizens of the city, not for earning exorbitant wages for minimal work.

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"Communication with customers should be improved with touch-screen information kiosks, improved direction and platform screens, and the addition of signs at station entrances to highlight delays across the system."

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This recommendation reminds me of those people who buy a $300 car that is about 6 months away from the scrap heap and they put $500 rims and a spoiler on the back. You need the basics to work before you go putting unnecessary bells and whistles on everything.

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Updated subway and streetcar maps, and providing real time updates on the TTC website.


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That would be useful.


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A review of customer service training for TTC employees.

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Wow, an actual recommendation that reflects the general public sentiment of what the TTC needs to do.


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Convenient fare systems are recommended that offer customers the capability to pay fares using non-cash methods such as credit or debit cards.

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Wow, another good recommendation. It would have been a good thing to implement in 1990, but at least it's a start.


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More emphasis should be placed on up keeping amenities, such as bathrooms and water fountains, and on providing healthy food choices.

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I agree with the first two, but please don't waste my tax money on deciding what snacks TTC vendors should sell.


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Finally, the report also chastises rude riders and says that customers must do their part by following regulations and by-laws. "Courtesy is a two-way street...Throughout CSAP's work, it became apparent that not all customers are courteous and respectful," the report says.

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I as a rider try and fit in to my surroundings when I'm riding the TTC, so I tend to be rude to the staff it they are rude to me. If they are nice, I'm nice. But don't ask me to do any favors by trying to cheer up obnoxious TTC employees. They get paid much more than I do for much less work.
Laurie / August 23, 2010 at 08:57 pm
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Dear TTC:
If you want to something great for every single patron, then install ergonomic seats!! Those red back-breaking seats you have now couldn't be more uncomfortable and unhealthy.
laura / August 23, 2010 at 10:18 pm
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The hiring of a Chief Customer Service Officer "whose sole responsibility is to ensure that everyone within the organization understands what constitutes good service."

and then what, not like management really has the power to outright fire anybody for not following these guidelines. We all know the union will fight tooth & nail and usually wins over management. waste of time.
piero / August 23, 2010 at 11:18 pm
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Some good recommendations and some fluff. My impression is a lot of the recommendations revolve around shaping public perception or changing TTC culture. Not bad things in themselves, however, more hard fixes would have been welcome. One of the recommendations is alarming - "additional supervisors". If a customer service culture needs enforcing by having a supervisor making you be customer friendly, these changes are all doomed. Also the quantity of recommendations makes this seem like a list of brainstorming items rather than a prioritized list of the most pressing issues. Sadly, unless council narrows the list down considerably to the top 5 or 6 items, these recommendations will be too costly and confusing/complex to implement with any real benefit. I think all people really want is a) friendly attitude b) easier fare payment options c) decent facilities d) affordable (less, not more staff) e)predictability f) less stupid stuff like 3 buses bunched up.

If Vancouver can run the skytrain with no train operators, fare kiosks and roaming staff rather than sleepy and impersonal behind a glass booth staff, the TTC will be light years ahead of where it's at today.
picard102 replying to a comment from Laurie / August 24, 2010 at 12:42 am
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Never had a problem with the seats myself.
handfed / August 24, 2010 at 01:37 am
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Customer Service Officer. HAHAHAHHA
gadfly / August 24, 2010 at 07:55 am
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No opinions of the TTC. I haven't taken it on years, never would again. Too slow, too expensive, too inconvenient (unless you live at Sheppard/Yonge and work in the Eaton Center.) Used to take it to the ferry terminals once in awhile, but now that cash fare is nearing $10 for a two-way trip, I may as well drive and take my chances with the parking lots.
Just get those slow, lumbering, useless streetcars out of my way!
Dr. Huxtable / August 24, 2010 at 08:20 am
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Yer all a bunch of whiners.
nik77 / August 24, 2010 at 08:33 am
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Lower fares and more efficient routes throughout the city... As it is now, it's cheaper and more convenient to drive to work than buying a Metropass and riding the "rocket", what is wrong with that picture???
The Shakes / August 24, 2010 at 08:42 am
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No matter what they recommend there are 2 priorities that need to be addressed before any real change can happen:

1. TTC must stop blaming the customer, and stop using bad customers as an excuse to give crap service. TTC employees use rude customers as an excuse to be rude to every single customer, which in turn make customers be rude to TTC employees because the impression from the paying public is that they are all neanderthals. It's a vicious circle. If TTC employees were helpful and friendly they would probably find far less rude customers, and i'm sure the number of assualts and confrontations would go down drastically. You don't hear about LCBO employees getting spitting on.

2. TTC must actually be empowered to discipline and remove the problem employees. They are the cancer that created and perpetuate the "screw the public, me first" culture amongst the employees.
Malcolm replying to a comment from mike / August 24, 2010 at 08:54 am
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I'm sure Giambrone has a few ideas too ...
Michelle replying to a comment from Alison / August 24, 2010 at 09:32 am
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I could not agree with you more. There are electronic signs telling people a subway is coming in 2 minutes, but there are no signs (or call numbers) to tell someone if a bus that runs every half hour is actually coming or not?! Where is their logic? Supposedly the TTC will add real time GPS tracking at bus stops, but who knows when that will actually happen.
everlast34 / August 24, 2010 at 10:53 am
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The TTC will never be able to improve so long as the union is in place holding it back. Until the day it's gone, we might as well just get used to the crapiness of an outdated system with piss poor customer service.
Diane Devenyi replying to a comment from Shannon / August 24, 2010 at 11:52 am
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I could not agree with you more...your generation has shown up on the planet demanding respect, integrity and entertainment...you must be reincarnated royalty! That's why finding ways to keep everyone amused while we behave the way we want the world to be is the only way to go. Fun, games, laughter and change can all go hand in hand.
kn / August 25, 2010 at 08:51 pm
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The city has grown by leaps and bounds and the TTC has pretty much done nothing. No train to the airport, no train to York university, no east west/trains south of Bloor, nothing to mississauga.... actually no new real improvements or new lines since the 60s!!! Oh yes, except for the train to nowhere called the Sheppard line. Nice pay off Mel you moron.
RideSallyRide / August 25, 2010 at 09:34 pm
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Toronto is majorly screwed in the transportation department.

There are far too many cars - but people blamelessly prefer to drive because our public transit system is a joke.

Streetcars need to be retired - the tracks are dangerous for cyclists, they hold up traffic on main thoroughfares with no left turn lanes and street parking, and they leave customers waiting endlessly in rough winter weather. The subway and stations are filthy and the routes largely outdated and ineffective. I doubt that TTC workers are going to get any more friendly because they are told to be. The whole system needs not just an overhaul, but an entire re-do.

The TTC evidently did not do much "big picture" thinking back in the 60s when Eglinton was as north as it got. The system has truly not grown to accommodate the city's population nor its burgeoning neighbourhoods.

One of the most expensive transit systems in North America, and one of the least effective. TTC = fail.
Smilie / August 25, 2010 at 11:57 pm
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All we need is a reliable, PUNCTUAL SERVICE that people can depend upon. What TTC really really sucks is NOTHING IS ON TIME! What the current TTC considers "on time" is "about 5 minutes before and after the schedule" but c'mon we are urban people and we are very mobile and we move by minute, not by "about 5 minutes" or "whenever it comes." Toronto is a big joke and a large-scale provincial town because it doesn't even know how they should appreciate smart and efficient urban transport. As long as they provide punctual services, people could tolerate trashy vehicles, screachy tracks and grumpy staff. Punctuality is such a baseline of public transportation and I seriously wonder why TTC can't even achieve that baseline after spending such a large amount of Canadian dollars. If the current TTC is not capable of handling punctual urban transport system, they really should give it up to someone who knows the business, even for profit. We are paying 3 dollars per ride. How much more can they charge us for such crappy services? I've had to face sudden cancellation of subway services 5 mornings in just 3 weeks already. I would really really like to see simple and sophisticated urban transportation system serving Toronto. That would change this nice city dramatically nicer.
kn / August 26, 2010 at 11:53 am
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I am a member of a union. I support the workers right to a fair wage but the unfortunate issue with the TTC is that they are operating in a vacuum. There is no competition. Their employer, the city, has no direct pressure to improve the system and remain relevant. If these people were living in the real world of competitive markets the TTC would have been crushed. ( GM and it's union found out the hard way.) The politicians are afraid to make changes, and Giambrone is a political monkey. Why did he need to hire an outside agency to tell him what the public has known for decades? Adam, you are coward. He's young and too ambitious for any use to the public. All he wants to do is become mayor.
TTC? / March 17, 2011 at 06:29 pm
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TTC drivers and operators are about the rudest folks (of any profession or industry) one can find now not just in North America but in the world.

Absolutely hostile, downright rude, mean TTC employees are now a daily occurrence.

This is absolutely not acceptable at any level, no matter how you spin it.

We are not talking about merely poor customer service.

We are talking about being abusive, rude, hostile and aggressive -- in a way that borderlines assault.

This is not accept.

I am sorry -- I don't care how the Mayor or TTC wish to spin it.

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