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Toronto's concrete heritage can't get no respect

Posted by Matthew Harris / August 21, 2010

Back of Macy DuBois's 45 Charles Street EastPerhaps you've heard Nouvelle Vague's "Dance With Me" being used in radio ads for a new condo development: Chaz on Charles. Launching a condo project in the middle of real estate downswing is probably not the wisest idea. But unlike other condo projects, this one does not appear to be threatening heritage. The building that is currently there - 45 Charles Street East - is a nondescript concrete office building. Even the city does not care that 45 Charles Street East is being torn down. It's one of those concrete buildings that's a blight on the Toronto landscape. Or is it?

Entrance to Chaz on CharlesTorontonians are often embarrassed by the amount of concrete in our city. Viewed as cheap and bland, to many contemporary eyes it seems like an ugly reminder of what replaced the quaint Victorian homes, office buildings and warehouses that were torn down in the 60s and 70s to make way for it.Macy DuBois's 45 Charles Street East Up ViewBut in these decades, the use of concrete was considered avant-garde, and Toronto was seen as one of the most progressive architectural cities in the world. Concrete - a relatively new material that wasn't tied down by a history of design - seemed like the perfect building material to position Toronto as the city of the future. The plasticity of concrete allowed for bold forms and new shapes. And it gave us two of our city icons: the CN Tower and New City Hall.

The competition for a New City Hall generated unprecedented international attention from architects and design proposals poured in. One of the finalists was from a group of Harvard architectural students. While the group didn't win, one of them, Macy DuBois, stayed in the city and helped design some of our best-known concrete structures. One of the most recognizable of these is 45 Charles Street East.Macy DuBois's 45 Charles Street EastDuBois put many details into the building. In an interview published in Concrete Toronto (DuBois's last public appearance was at the book launch), he speaks of the design's attention to detail. He wanted the concrete to appear very textured when viewed close up, but for it to lighten when viewed at a distance. This dual texture was similar to what had been achieved in some Italian villas DuBois had seen. And because it was set in the middle of the block, DuBois knew that most people would be approaching the building from the side, so he set terraces - a rarity for office buildings - at an angle. As DuBois said, "Being angled to the street is actually more attractive than being parallel."Chaz signs outside of 45 Charles Street EastAlthough many people don't particularly appreciate these buildings now, a similar lack of appreciation encouraged the destruction of Victorian structures in the 1960s. When Eaton's was considering buying and demolishing Old City Hall in order to build the initial Eaton Centre proposal, there were people who came out in favour of Old City Hall's destruction, citing its lack of "architectural merit." Now this argument seems impossible to understand. Will future Torontonians bemoan our lack of appreciation for our recent architectural past?

Discussion

43 Comments

Adam G / August 21, 2010 at 10:34 am
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When it's time to tear down the glass and steel condos it won't take as long as it does to rip apart rebar and concrete.


Y'all need to do a feature on 310 and 320 Tweedsimuir before it's too late.
Nicholas / August 21, 2010 at 10:35 am
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"Torontonians of 2036 are often embarrassed by the amount of steel & glass in our city. Viewed as cheap and bland, to many contemporary eyes it seems like an ugly reminder of what replaced the quaint Victorian homes, office buildings and warehouses that were torn down in the '00s to make way for it."

Glass is the new concrete. Every generation has its cheap, soulless building material. It has nothing to do with aesthetics. The lack of an enforceable "style guide" for urban growth (no, I mean a real one) is the real problem here.
warmflash / August 21, 2010 at 10:37 am
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45 Charles St is one bad ass building. It's the ugly daughter of the Robarts Library. Fans can pine over the building as a perfect example of 1970's concrete " brutalism, " all they like. But this building is an eye soar. It would be more at home in Ottawa or Montreal than here. In fact, if they want to save it, why not move the monstrosity to either one of those cities where buildings like 45 Charles St East are exonerated as " French Canadian " treasures.
Matt / August 21, 2010 at 10:48 am
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I'm a defender of concrete and brutalism (it's better than most of the glass/steel condos) but only a fraction of it is attractive. (I'd included City Hall, CN Tower, 222 Jarvis, Imperial Oil Building, and several more.)

This one though, I don't think we can make much of a case for. It's not outright ugly, but it's pretty plain. I'm of the mind that middle-of-the-road 19th century archiecture is simply more attractive and human-scaled than middle-of-the-road mid 20th century modernism and brutalism. It's just the nature of the building style, and I say that long having come to an appreciation of modern architecture, even excitement for it.

So, I feel like we need to preserve as much as possible of the 19th century, while we can be happy with saving just a few superior examples of concrete heritage.
Jordan / August 21, 2010 at 11:13 am
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I think most of these Concrete Behemoths can usually be fixed up with a fresh coat of paint and the right architectural treatment - looking to the Brunswick Centre in London as an example. I think the real question is - why are we tearing down perfectly usable office buildings when there are plenty of empty parking lots scattered all around the downtown core.
Jim / August 21, 2010 at 11:58 am
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Off topic, however the song is a great cover of an excellent song from the Lords of the New Church, an early 80's Synth Band. Cool!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CYN14Ki5o8&;feature=av2e
andrewS / August 21, 2010 at 12:01 pm
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@Adam G:

"Y'all need to do a feature on 310 and 320 Tweedsimuir before it's too late."

Actually, it is too late. The last bit of 320 came down a couple weeks ago (I have a couple pictures of a forlorn, 4 storey remnant of the utility core taken a day or so before it too was gone) and 310 is about half its previous height and is at the stage they use the giant concrete pliers things. It too will be gone inside of a month.

Pity really. Another one of those cases of "let it deteriorate until it justifies demolishion".

45 Charles East isn't even in rough shape. It's a perfectly serviceable office building, it just happens to have gotten in the way of some developer. Just like so many other buildings in this city it needs a good pressure washing to get rid of the grime but is otherwise is a pretty decent building.

How did the rezoning slip through? I thought the city wanted to stop the loss of employment sites?

At any rate, I kind of hope the real estate down market keeps this one from getting off the ground until someone thinks better of this.
Khristopher / August 21, 2010 at 12:20 pm
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I think this is a beautiful building that definitely should not be torn down. It's rather unfortunate.
DanBro / August 21, 2010 at 01:05 pm
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This used to be RCMP headquarters! in the 80's -anyone correct me?
dan / August 21, 2010 at 01:15 pm
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i worked there!
scottd replying to a comment from DanBro / August 21, 2010 at 01:33 pm
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No that was on Jarvis.

I still do business in 45 and have never had a problem with it.
saltspring / August 21, 2010 at 02:01 pm
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45 Charles East's dark triangular alcoves are just plain butt ugly. Its monolithic structure is so much like those horrible and repressive Soviet-era administrative buildings. Rip it down asap.
seanm replying to a comment from Adam G / August 21, 2010 at 02:19 pm
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A lot of you people are confused about the building materials used in our new condos. Almost every single one is solid concrete and rebar; the difference being that the structure is covered by a window wall system of glass (and sometimes steel). Regardless of your views on the style and exterior finishes, these condos are just as solid as the mid-century Brutalist edifices.

Matt, Imperial Oil's headquarters isn't really Brutalist specifically, rather an example of Modernism. It's also faced primarily with limestone.

DanBro, scottd is correct. The building that now houses the MGM Grand used to be the RCMP HQ.
seanm / August 21, 2010 at 02:22 pm
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Oh, and one other point I forgot, the Imperial Oil Bldg is actually built on a steel frame(!) No concrete.

ed / August 21, 2010 at 02:49 pm
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I'm so glad you wrote about this! I actually wrote in a complaint to Heritage Preservation or whatever, but they aren't going to do anything.
Matt / August 21, 2010 at 02:51 pm
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Yeah,I was talking about brutalism and modernism.

(I lump them in together 'cause they hail from the same and I they both rely on form and shape rather than decorative elements, generally, for aesthetic appeal.)
bob / August 21, 2010 at 02:53 pm
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Its wierd how Torontonians think of how concrete is cheap and bland, when back then, in Toronto, Montreal, and Europe this was the trendy, new material, as opposed to America's glass & steel designs.

You know, nowadays, glass & steel is seen as cheap (only by Torontonians), but I don't understand what else you expect them to use?
bob / August 21, 2010 at 02:55 pm
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also, anyone notice how the new design is exactly the same as 45 Charles?
bob / August 21, 2010 at 02:57 pm
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ps. the condo totally screws everyone in on the east side of CASA over
K. / August 21, 2010 at 03:24 pm
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I'll second the coat of paint idea. I grew up in an eastern European communist country where dull, concrete buildings were the norm until the 90s. Now most of these are painted brightly and it actually looks pretty good. See for example: http://www.michaeltotten.com/images/Painted%20Housing%20Block%20Shkodra.jpg
Matt replying to a comment from bob / August 21, 2010 at 03:25 pm
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Any of the dozens of other building materials available to us? I'm sorry, I don't want to Toronto to end up looking like False Creek in Vancouver, or Hong Kong, or anything of that ilk. The glass trend will end, and I can't wait. Glass is excellent as a relief from brick and concrete--a bright counterpoint, a place to let the city breathe and provide a little lightness in the built environment. Used everywhere though, it just feel... insubstantial.
moi / August 21, 2010 at 03:30 pm
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Great. Another cookie cutter condo with ridiculously sized units(yup, I googled), just what the city needs.

This building looks like it would be perfect for conversion into larger family sized units. There's already outdoor space for each unit! I can't help but think that this would make more sense from an environmental point of view as well (recycling at it's best). We should be encouraging families to move back to the city, and leave what farm land still exists as farms, not ugly sub-divisions.

Sadly, builders won't think this way. Not enough money to be made! I can't wait until the condo market crashes and burns once and for all.
David Toronto replying to a comment from DanBro / August 21, 2010 at 04:32 pm
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The RCMP headquarters were on Jarvis St. just south of
Dundas on the east side. The Grand Hotel & Suites is
there now. Before that, the HQ was on Sullivan St. near the
Grange Park area.

I remember the construction of the building and how forbidding it looked with blank end walls on the east
and west sides. The hotel put up fake windows to
halfway civilise the building.
warmflash / August 21, 2010 at 04:44 pm
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I've been in the building many many times. It's as bleak inside as it is outside. You get the same feeling inside 45 Charles East, you get watching Silence of the Lambs.

C r e e p y
Adam Sobolak / August 21, 2010 at 05:07 pm
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"Matt, Imperial Oil's headquarters isn't really Brutalist specifically, rather an example of Modernism. It's also faced primarily with limestone."

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Heck, I'd go a step beyond that in claiming that Imperial Oil isn't even especially *Modernist*, what with its limestone facing and Moderne/Classical hangover feeling, all of which betrays the legend of its design having been recycled from the abortive mid-50s New City Hall scheme. Indeed, Imperial Oil wouldn't have been out of place housing some Stalin-era Soviet Bloc ministry (oh, and don't read that as condemnation, either--unlike saltspring's uninformed hack judgment label of "those horrible and repressive Soviet-era administrative buildings.")
George replying to a comment from Matt / August 21, 2010 at 05:31 pm
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Like what?
George replying to a comment from Matt / August 21, 2010 at 05:45 pm
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You know, most of the world most architecturally renowned buildings nowadays (Seattle Public Library, Louvre Pyramid, pretty much all of Sir Norman Foster's works) are made of glass ad steel?

It's not the materials, it's how they're used.
Matt / August 21, 2010 at 11:06 pm
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Like brick, stone, concrete, limestone, etc...

And yes, it's not the materials, it's how they're used. But that doesn't change the fact that I don't want to live in a city with glass-facaded buildings one after the other.
seanm replying to a comment from Adam Sobolak / August 22, 2010 at 01:09 am
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It's definitely early Modernism, but I agree it carries over some of the design principles of late Deco and Art Moderne. The architects responsible for it also worked on the c. 1950 Bank of Nova Scotia building (NE corner of King and Bay), which I've always viewed as an architectural relative of Imperial Oil.

Matt, I find that even with all of the recent glass-faced buildings, the overall landscape is still defined by brick, and in the newer areas, concrete and stone. Each generation saw large amounts of whatever "en-vogue" styles being built, and even once this trend is over, we won't be over-saturated by glass. Our concrete and brick suburban highrise neighbourhoods could benefit with a bit of glass, anyway.
joe carter's homerun ball replying to a comment from K. / August 22, 2010 at 01:40 am
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Hey, painting our ugly concrete buildings in vibrant colours sounds like a great idea. The buildings are bland and this can be a pretty grey city in the winter...it would be fun to see them painted in yellows and reds and blues and purples!
George replying to a comment from Matt / August 22, 2010 at 02:31 am
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Those are not contemporary materials, it'd be almost as if Toronto were taking an architectural step backwards, at least to architect(ural firms). Look at the beautiful building we have now that are made of those materials, they are not even close to being appreciated today.
Adam Sobolak replying to a comment from seanm / August 22, 2010 at 06:14 am
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If you're going to bunch Scotia at Bay/King with "early Modernism", then you might as well do likewise with the purest 20s/30s skyscraper Deco--and not entirely without justification; but given its construction date, Scotia definitely registers more as a retardataire hangover from the prewar years (and quite literally, as it was a stripped-down version of a 20-year-old John Lyle scheme) In which case, then one can just as well blanket-categorize virtually *everything* postwar as "early Modernism"...
gadfly / August 22, 2010 at 09:22 am
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Another 30+ storey condo on Charles St. Fantastic! Who started this competition with HK in the first place? Oh, that's right: it's the refugees from HK that buy up half these cramped units. Makes them feel right at home, I suppose.
Matt / August 22, 2010 at 09:57 am
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So, we can only build with "contemporary" materials? We must build everything with glass? That's a strange idea. I guess wood is REALLY old-fashioned.

Anyway, materials come in and out of fashion all the time. I don't want to see us building a bunch of Queen Anne style houses. That would be regression. But to discard perfectly good building materials out of some weird notion of progress is just strange.
Protogenes / August 22, 2010 at 11:15 am
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Think of the delight future generations will have tearing down all the turn of the century condos.

Only then perhaps will Toronto be slightly less hideous.
bob replying to a comment from Matt / August 22, 2010 at 08:33 pm
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Why don't you go say that to our many architectural firms then?
bob replying to a comment from Nicholas / August 22, 2010 at 08:35 pm
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Neither materials started off, and are continuously used, as "cheap" materials.
seanm replying to a comment from Adam Sobolak / August 22, 2010 at 11:00 pm
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Scotia is a strange case, due to the reasons you've pointed out, though I don't consider it Modernist in any sense. I considered Imperial Oil early Modernist, though felt it has a bit in common with Deco, and Scotia, in form. If we're going to blanket everything post-war as anything, I'd go with International, which was sort of a catchall term for the emerging architectural vernacular.
Sam replying to a comment from seanm / August 23, 2010 at 02:47 pm
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The Bank of Nova Scotia building was designed in 1928-9, but it wasn't built because of the economic collapse the year later. But, Scotiabank went back to that same design and built it in 1946, completed on 1951. So, I'd say it's Art Deco.
Jason / August 23, 2010 at 03:31 pm
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A personal anecdote...

Walking home from a Cabbagetown bar one night, I found a large framed sketch of 45 Charles East in someone's garbage. I stared at it for about 20 seconds, before knowing that I had to take it. I had nowhere to put it in my condo though, but I was pretty sure one of my architecturally-astute friends (and I have many) would be interested. I therefore emailed them all and waited and waited...and waited. Nobody wanted it though and it ended up in my own gabrage about a month later.
Scott / August 24, 2010 at 03:21 pm
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I want it :)
Bubba / December 20, 2010 at 10:27 pm
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What kind of Dick names a building Chaz?
Dan replying to a comment from Bubba / December 21, 2010 at 12:39 am
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What kind of Dick names a building Chaz? --- A Chazy dude!

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