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The never-ending lament for Queen West

Posted by Rick McGinnis / March 8, 2010

Queen West TorontoAnyone who's lived in Toronto for at least a few years has their own Queen Street in their head -- it's usually the place they remember from their first visit, a strip of storefronts that are always in their memory, and make a ghostly overlay on top of the shops that are there now. It's only been gone for a few months, but I'm sure there's some young person for whom Pages never existed, and the expanse of papered-over windows at Queen and John is a blank slate waiting to be filled in -- whereas for me, whatever moves in next will always be haunted by the shadow of Marc Glassman and his tables of cultural theory books.

Which is probably why the lament over the future of Queen West is a constantly recurring refrain, as every few years a new generation's memory of the street is swept away, even defiled -- though they might not have even been born when the Police played the Horseshoe, or you had your choice of places to buy surplus circuit boards.

Crystal Rickard, store manager at Pam Chorley's Fashion Crimes, remembers coming to the strip from Port Perry 12 years ago, when it was still dominated by small, independent boutiques.

"It was the first time in my life that I tried sushi, and my high school boyfriend would go to Steve's and check out all the awesome guitars, and that's when I decided I was really turned on by fashion," Rickard recalls. "It was incredibly inspiring -- it had a magical, privileged feeling. I felt so privileged shopping on Queen West when it was full of those teeny, tiny one-of-a-kind stores."

Queen West TorontoBernard Chung, a co-owner of Black Market, moved the vintage clothing shop all over Queen West for two decades before arriving at the basement space beneath Pages' vacant shell 10 years ago. He's sure that cavernous space is the key to survival on Queen, especially as the arrival of retail chains has pushed up rents astronomically.

"We've got 8000 square feet down here, and we can offer a lot of merchandise, and that's what's kept us alive. As we've moved from one location to another, this store has been our best one -- our first store was just 500 square feet."

For Chung, the departure of sci-fi specialist Bakka Books from the strip was the first sign of something changing, followed by the arrival of The Gap across from Peter Pan -- a mainstay eatery on the strip that's gone from edgy to almost genteel over the decades. He thinks that the street's reputation as a youth market magnet is strong enough to save long term merchants, even as it transforms into our equivalent of Carnaby Street or the East Village.

Under development - Queen West"The one thing this strip has, which hasn't changed, is that it's a great tourist strip, and every summer season we see people from all over the world coming into the store, and I don't see that changing. Queen Street will always be a popular place to visit, and for younger kids it's a great place to hang out and visit downtown."

Queen West TorontoFor Rickard, the closing of the BamBoo was painful, but she really misses Barney's, the tiny diner across the street with its famous chili. Personally, I'll always remember Edward's Books and Art, Mood Indigo and Hollywood Jobbers, and the used newspaper store that almost no one else can remember. But the last sinew to snap was when the Stem finally closed, a greasy spoon whose menu had, admittedly, become more inedible over the years. I hadn't been there for years by the time it closed, which is probably telling, and I'm certain that my final disappointing meal of eggs and home fries there is probably lodged in someone else's memory as the pinnacle of some bygone Queen West golden age.

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Michael / March 8, 2010 at 10:52 am
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Remember the Great Canadian News store? I'll lovingly remember buying a magazine there. Or was it a pack of gum...

Whatever it was, Queen won't be the same without that store!

If the Flight Centre ever closes down, I'm moving.
bars / March 8, 2010 at 11:18 am
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just goes to prove the point in the observations herein
we are part of it and it is a part of us like jilly's
in the mind a real place perfect and indestructible
humanity being of at least two minds in things
history is easily overlooked from day to day
yet evidence remains to show however small
distant sounds effect the paths of all
ttc battle must end peace to reign
smaller is nicer cleaner better
free best of all supportive
positive integration of
and by those of us who
appreciate the work
fathers mothers
siblings all
rcvm
Bonk / March 8, 2010 at 12:24 pm
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I'm pretty unromantic about this stretch of Queen St. Many stores closed down and were replaced by higher market stores because that's what the storegoers supported. If they hadn't then increased rents wouldn't have been possible in the first place. Alternatively the latest trend is that boutique-like and trendy businesses willing to pay those high rents are having a tough go of it and are closing. The area will first and foremost be dictated by what shoppers want, so it's pointless to lament every time the dynamic changes.
The Lam / March 8, 2010 at 01:42 pm
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I was walking on Queen West last week with a friend of mine visiting from Ireland. He loved it although I lamented that it used to have more character in all the independent shops and boutiques. Nowadays unfortunately it's more like any other shopping mall... except outside.
Katrina / March 8, 2010 at 03:09 pm
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By the title, I assumed this article might be a satirical piece about the lament for queen west which seems to be never ending, and which I don't support. No, it was, in fact, just another lament about queen st.

I understand the need for local business and support the kind of neighbourhood that Queen West apparently was. But lets remember that the only thing constant about cities is change. If not one direction then the other. Instead of always lamenting change, can't we celebrate it sometimes?
Josh / March 8, 2010 at 03:14 pm
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Bonk hit the nail on the head, no use lamenting when our dollars made the choice of what businesses occupy the stretch.

The corporate takeover of Queen Street isn't a bad thing. Those independent store owners are simply forced to move to a new area like Bloor court or the Junction. Speak ill of gentrification if you must but a gentrified neighborhood is better than a dead neighborhood, one that only has stores because the mortgages were paid off 20 years ago despite no one shopping there.

20 years ago not many thought Brooklyn would become what it has. And sure, some neighborhoods like the Junction might get cool and interesting only to be taken over again by larger corporations but this is the cycle we've seen again and again.
bars replying to a comment from Katrina / March 8, 2010 at 03:41 pm
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I think you are perfectly right
how about a josh johnson jumbo jam
seriously we should meet and put our
heads together toast a scheme that would
celebrate that is what is find a syncapated
rhythm and boogie till dawn raise funds reaffirm
notify the board ad hoc read it into the record
begin a series of events that illuminate the
night. yes romance is a reason for being
recognition and acclaim provide time
opportunity priority & fecundity
rick mcginnis / March 8, 2010 at 03:50 pm
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Katrina - I actually thought I was talking about how everybody's Queen Street is always dying, even if it's never the same Queen Street. My Queen Street isn't Crystal's, for instance, or Bernard's - or yours, probably. I'm sorry I didn't deliver the satire you obviously wanted, but the basic message is the same.
jimmy / March 8, 2010 at 03:51 pm
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Streets change.
The end.
Peter / March 8, 2010 at 04:28 pm
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It always seems that the comments found on blogto offer more perspective and thought than the actual article.
Peter / March 8, 2010 at 04:29 pm
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Funny how the comments on blogto often offer more perspective and insight than the articles.
Jonathan replying to a comment from Josh / March 8, 2010 at 08:20 pm
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I agree that our spending dollars usually decide what business operates where, but Queen Street has the infamy of being taken over by chain stores which already have outlets two minutes drive away in the Eaton Centre. Were we really demanding another Aldo and H&M a short walk from their other locations? Except in July, August and December, the Queen street stores appear to sit empty most of the day and must do far less business. Also they close up very early, sometimes by 7pm everything on the block is closed. They vibrancy of the street has diminshed substantially. Something was lost in the past 10 years.
natalie / March 8, 2010 at 09:41 pm
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queen st hasn't been the same since candy ravers vacated queen and john!
joe / March 9, 2010 at 10:42 am
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The funny thing is that 12 years ago, when Queen W was supposedly cool and "authentic", people were complaining that there were too many chains and that it used to be cool and authentic.

Chris / March 9, 2010 at 02:31 pm
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I was lucky enough to spend time on that stretch of Queen West as a child in the 80s. My mom was a creative type, and my dad a bit of a sci-fi buff, so many hours were spent in Edwards, Graffix, and Bakka. I remember when the parking lot next to bamboo was the big hangout spot for all the mohawk and leather sporting punks.
I even had to laugh when the second coming of "Shutter Shades" happened a few years ago, as I remember very distinctly in 86 or 87 the giant signage on that LeChateau that featured womens heads sporting the slatted sunglasses. It was very distinct, and for some reason has always stuck with me.

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