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St. Clair LRT Almost Ready to Open, Ending Years of Anguish for Local Businesses

Posted by Rick McGinnis / December 11, 2009

St. Clair LRTIt's been nearly five years since St. Clair West became a construction site, but the city's Christmas present to the neighbourhood and its businesses is imminent - the opening of the LRT line from Bathurst to Lansdowne.

Streetcars are scheduled to start running again on the 20th, but anyone walking the street next weekend will see a pair of vintage PCC cars on the tracks, part of a low-key promotion organized by the TTC and the local BIA, which has suffered mightily since they started tearing up the tracks back in 2005.

Councillor Joe Mihevc was a proponent of the plan - unlike his city hall colleague further west, Cesar Palacio, who opposed the LRT from the beginning. He is, needless to say, happy to see the stretch of the line that runs through his riding back in service, though he admits that some hard lessons were learned along the way.

The first was that the city needed to do all its prep work ahead of time; the years-long delays in construction happened, he says, because the initial project - the streetcar right-of-way, along with upgrades to the roadwork and sidewalks - were complicated in turn by work on gas lines, water lines and hydro, either on sections or the whole of the line, each new addition to the project adding a year to the timeline, and complicating engineering in turn.

"The second thing we learned is... how to put this... engineers are not the best communicators," Mihevc says. "And so you really need to have a team of people who are the face of the project for the community, who are on site and talking to businesses and residents on a daily basis and have the pulse of the construction. We've learned from that, as has the TTC, and now there's a team of people who are going to be doing the communicating for the rest of Transit City."

St. Clair LRTJoe Cipriani is the acting supervisor of streetcars for the TTC, and outlines the timeline for the next week and a half as they prepare to get the rails along St. Clair running again. Sometime around the 14th, the first of a series of test cars will head out west from Bathurst. "We'll take it through slowly then take it up to normal operating speed to make sure all the clearances are right and the ride feels like it should. That the passenger platforms are lining up where they should be, and that anything that may be out of alignment is addressed before we open to the public."

St. Clair LRTLast week, a spat erupted between former TTC chair Howard Moscoe and his successor, Adam Giambrone, over stretches of the new line that Moscoe alleges were too full of curves and twists to run the cars at optimum speed, which was illustrated by a photo of the right-of-way east of Dufferin. It's an illusion, Cipriani explains, accentuated by the use of a telephoto lens that squeezes the perspective of the tracks sharply.

"Someone here analyzed it, Cipriani says. "By zooming in it actually augmented the curvature, made it look more abrupt than it is. But if you go east, where we've been running from Yonge to St. Clair West station, it's like that by design - there are curves like that, to accommodate intersection narrowing, things like that. It's there by design - it's not an oversight. The design called for that."

As for the damage done to local businesses during the long construction, Mihevic says he sees signs that the area is already rebounding, based on new and unprecedented requests he's gotten for patio licenses on St. Clair, as well as the sudden interest of developers and the rise in housing prices that made it impossible, for instance, for his own son to afford a house in the neighbourhood. "I acknowledge some folks are angry - it's not the St. Clair they're used to, but people are investing on the street and the areas south of St. Clair. People vote with their feet."

Discussion

40 Comments

bubba / December 11, 2009 at 09:55 am
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i'll believe it when i see it
Adrian / December 11, 2009 at 10:46 am
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Driving on St. Clair is horrific with this construction.
as / December 11, 2009 at 11:04 am
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Correction: PCC cars will be running NEXT SATURDAY, DECEMBER 19, not this weekend.

Tom / December 11, 2009 at 11:11 am
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The construction was a bit botched, yet, but it's amazing that this was pushed through. In the end, I think this is only going to help businesses. The strip already looks a lot nicer with the work they did, they added parking, and most of all, people will actually be able to go to these businesses without having to worry about finding parking. I know we'll be hitting up the strip for some of the great latin food more often now, especially knowing that we can have a few more glasses of wine because we'll be hopping on the streetcar to get home.

And for commuters, this is huge. I'd love to see some feedback from a St. Clair commuter once the streetcars are running to see how much faster they're getting into work.
jennifer / December 11, 2009 at 11:31 am
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Hurray!!! I can't wait!! I live east of Bathurst and I've been enjoying the right of way on that end for some time, and it'll be so great to not have to switch to a bus to go west. I haven't let the construction stop me from going to businesses at Christie or Dufferin at all, but it hasn't been easy getting there. Should be smooth sailing now...and on a PCC car too!! Awesome.
David.levy@rogers.com replying to a comment from Tom / December 11, 2009 at 11:39 am
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Do you want a comparison to the streetcar before the construction or since the busses were running? Anything will make my life better than the busses running through the construction!
nib / December 11, 2009 at 12:08 pm
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good news!
notice in the photo there how the sign board is hanging on a an angle? every single stop has this problem, and they've been like that since the stops were installed over a year ago! they should pay more attention to those details.
jack / December 11, 2009 at 12:36 pm
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A & F boy said it's safe
Sarah / December 11, 2009 at 12:48 pm
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No pain, no gain - I think that is important to remember.

While we have all suffered endless delays, painful driving conditions, and have watched our favourite neighborhood stores go under, it is important to remember that the coming years will bring change to the whole strip of St. Clair Ave. West.

I was born and raised in this area, and could not be more proud of the completed project.

With the streetcars coming back to life, traffic will ease up, and getting to the subway station will be easier than ever.
Patrick / December 11, 2009 at 12:54 pm
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never shopped on St Clair and never will!
Rodney / December 11, 2009 at 01:00 pm
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Those new shelters are terrible as you are exposed to the rain, snow, and wind
Hum replying to a comment from Patrick / December 11, 2009 at 01:02 pm
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I'm sure St. Clair's cryin' in their Cheerios too.
James replying to a comment from nib / December 11, 2009 at 01:07 pm
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That sign board and all of the other ones are actually level; wherever the shelters and boards don't align, the street is on a slope, and so the shelters and platform are obviously on a slope too. As to why the boards have to be level and not slanted to match that slope, I have no idea.


I live along St. Clair along the uncompleted portion west of Lansdowne Avenue. I can't wait for the line to get up and running here in the spring. The construction crews still need to work on the loop at Gunns Road.
mm / December 11, 2009 at 01:39 pm
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I am sure it will be fantastic for business, and it will look much nicer, but if you're choking at a restaurant you may regret being on st. clair. - apparently it's impossible for emergency vehicles to go through...
joe / December 11, 2009 at 02:09 pm
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This route is going to be heavily used once it is opened up. Even though it was a long time coming, having a DRL is going to benefit many people.
Mike W replying to a comment from joe / December 11, 2009 at 02:38 pm
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Why cant they use the street car lanes? I doubt it'll be congested there.
Elf / December 11, 2009 at 03:10 pm
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It took FIVE YEARS to lay track from Bathurst to Landsdown? Good god.
hgreen replying to a comment from Patrick / December 11, 2009 at 03:39 pm
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No need to be so parochial there, Patrick.
shlepster / December 11, 2009 at 04:34 pm
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I heard that emergency vehicles wont be able to get through this area and that the entire project might have to be re-done. If ambulance,fire or police need to get through at rush hour they cant because of the height of the curbs that seperate the trains from the road?
Sean / December 11, 2009 at 05:19 pm
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Don't hold your breath!

- Watch out for a big snow storm to stop the streetcars in its tracks. It will be worse once the LRT is introduced. It rides much lower to the ground than the streetcars. Where will the snow build up go?
- The track bed is made of cement. It will buckle under the stress and weather. Worse still, the winter salt will make it deteriorate quicker.
- The fact it took so long to build, it's obvious someone cashed in big!!!
- As someone else reported above regarding emergency vehicles haveing a heck of a time going through. So true.
truth / December 11, 2009 at 05:49 pm
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All streetcar tracks should be ripped up. Run buses and get a real capital program to build subways. Only real and effective transit is underground.
cocoa for buses / December 11, 2009 at 06:10 pm
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Let's hope this is the last significant investment in streetcar/infrastructure for a while. Buses are more maneuverable and don't require any of this stuff. We need to ween ourselves from streetcars.
mark. / December 11, 2009 at 06:37 pm
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truth and cocoa:
The theory behind LRT is that it is better for the community and business. It is claimed that it is hard to get developers to build/fix housing and retail if there isn't a permanent transit station; a new bus route is too easy to take away and that unsettles developers. Subways are very expensive, or 'cost prohibitive' as they say..
jamesmallon / December 11, 2009 at 07:30 pm
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Five freaking years for a streetcar line of a few kilometers...

Toronto: aim low and miss.
Mary / December 11, 2009 at 11:21 pm
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Oh, terrific. Those of us living west of Lansdowne currently take the bus to St. Clair West and transfer to the streetcar inside the station. In a couple of weeks, as we officially turn to winter, we get to take the bus a few blocks to Lansdowne then wait out in the open for God knows how long for a streetcar for the next few months because we won't get the full stretch open to streetcars until NEXT SUMMER.

Way to time this, TTC.
ian / December 12, 2009 at 12:27 am
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Way to go. Bravo. Encore.

Mr. Mihevic you have destroyed St. Clair.

let's say I see a restaurant i might have read about across the street as I drive by- If this restaurant happens to be at say st.clair and Atlas you have to drive 8 blocks to Dufferin before you can u-turn and hope to find a parking spot - well actually there is no parking legally anywhere on st.clair - by order of the chief of police - ever...... so , just keep drivin'
meathole replying to a comment from Sean / December 12, 2009 at 12:32 am
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Don't hold your breath!

- Watch out for a big snow storm to stop the streetcars in its tracks. It will be worse once the LRT is introduced. It rides much lower to the ground than the streetcars. Where will the snow build up go?

They have the same Streetcars in Sweden and in Russia.

I am pretty sure they get snow as we do.
gadfly / December 12, 2009 at 06:50 am
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Perhaps that was the TTC's hidden strategy: make St. Clair so horrendous to travel on for 5 years that just ending the construction will make everyone jump for joy. I mean, ANYTHING is better than the past 5 years, right? Yonge/St. Clair is now one of the worst intersections in the city, thanks to the TTC and their road and traffic department handpuppets. We have managed to take the only E-W route that moved between the 401 and the Gardiner and turn it into another revisionist vision of urban suicide. Good going, Toronto!
Tom replying to a comment from ian / December 12, 2009 at 07:39 am
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Classic lazy driver mentality.

Just because the restaurant is at the other side of the street, why do you have to park your car at that side of the street just to go there? Can't you just park on your side of the street, then <gasp> walk two minutes to the restaurant? You're like the people at the mall who sit there hovering to get a spot close to the door, rather than parking a little further away and having to walk a couple of minutes.

Move to the 905 buddy. You'll be a lot more comfortable there.
hah / December 12, 2009 at 08:58 am
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I really love the frank, researched and obviously unbiased discussion amongst engineers and city planners going on in this post...

Oh wait...
W. K. Lis / December 12, 2009 at 09:01 am
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For the transit user, the ROW will be a great way to travel on St. Clair. For the 1.1 occupants per car on St. Clair, you still have off-street parking in the area.

In the end, more will now be able to use the streetcars in comfort.
gadfly replying to a comment from W. K. Lis / December 12, 2009 at 10:21 am
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And, after all, that's what it is all about, isn't it? Dropping more hundreds of millions into the swamp that is the TTC, hoping that if things get bad enough for motorists, they will simply bury their cars and join the shiny, happy people on the Better Way. Can I have the number of your drug dealer, please?
Social engineering isn't working. What is happening is that the people with jobs and money are moving out of this cesspool. Who is going to be left to pay for the subsidized socialist programs then?
Mark / December 12, 2009 at 10:43 am
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The so-called research that justified the expenditure and disruption to the neighbourhood and businesses for five years was fraudulent. The baseline travel times were calculated based on the lowest travel week of the entire year. The actual benefits to travel time could have been accomplished in a fraction of the time and at considerably less expense. However Joe Mihevc learned how to push through his own agenda at City Hall, and thus it was done. The fact that just last week I saw an ambulance stuck in the traffic funnel at Vaughan and St. Clair (how will emergency vehicles use the ROW if streetcars are running? duh...) demonstrates the lack of thought that went into this.

I love much of the Transit City plan - we do desperately need east-west rapid transit links in this city aside from the Bloor-Danforth line, and parallel lines to Yonge-University. But the travesty and exceptionally poor planning of the St. Clair debacle, not to mention ideological, as opposed to research-based justification for the project, is not the way to promote transit-use in the city. The sad reality is that the problems of traffic - pollution, accidents, delay of emergency vehicles, inability to navigate in the inclement weather - will likely be exacerbated by the ROW design, with longer routes to destinations, traffic funnels, single lane passage in many locations, and dangerous pedestrian crossings (like at Vaughan Road).

A sad legacy from Mr. Mihevc.
Sky Captain replying to a comment from truth / December 13, 2009 at 08:56 am
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@truth:

Subways? <i>Please, motherfucker, please...NO</i>!

Subways cost way too much money, require a ton of digging (cut & cover and other methods) that's disruptive, and as councilor God Perks rightfully put it, are 'troglodyte transportation'. They cut you off from the city one lives in as well, and are hard to maintain (the stations in particular.) Only some cities are even bothering to build them, and when they do upgrades to said subway, it's only to build extensions onto existing lines anyways.

As it is, LRT's are the wave of the future, and work better than subways-please try to look to the future, and not the past.
Sky Captain replying to a comment from gadfly / December 13, 2009 at 08:59 am
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Why don't you move out of this 'cesspool' then, if you feel it's so crappy? Maybe Winnipeg-a suburbanized hell and mistake of planning-is more up your auto-loving alley.
Mr. Sensible replying to a comment from cocoa for buses / December 13, 2009 at 09:02 am
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No dufus, we need to wean ourselves from buses, and the sooner, the better.
gstoronto replying to a comment from Sky Captain / December 13, 2009 at 03:20 pm
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Councillor "God" Perks? Bit of a freudian slip there? In any case, I certainly don't consider anything Councillor "Gord" Perks says as infallible. I think reports of his divinity are higly over-rated. Personally I think LRT does make sense for large parts of TO, but there are areas where subways (specifically NEW subways) would make sense as well given how sprawling TO is. The bottom line is that in comparison to virtually any other city that relies heavily on LRT, Toronto has a considerably larger surface area. That said, I do think LRT makes sense for St. Clair. But I think that the over 100million used on this project could have gone to address more pressing transit needs in this city -- say in parts of scarborough, etobicoke or north york. Also, too bad that the TTC and the City chose to ignore many design/engineering suggestions that would have made the project a better fit into the area... and too bad the construction phase was absolutely botched. Some people deserve to lose their jobs over how badly this project was implemented. At the very least, Councillor Mihevic (and TTC Chair Councillor Giambrone) should be turfed from office.

Compared to other cities that rely heavily on LRT, Toronto
gadfly replying to a comment from Sky Captain / December 13, 2009 at 03:41 pm
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No, you get out of MY sandbox - I was here first! Blah, blah, blah
Kathy / December 18, 2009 at 02:53 pm
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This was supposed to take 2 years. Considering that I only saw people working from time to time but construction equipment, rails and everything else just parked there, I assumed this would tae forever...I don't do anything on st.clair anymore and I go around on the subway now when I need to get somewhere. To add insult to injury, I spent 40 minutes waiting for a bus last night when i got off at Dufferin. The TTC's service is deplorable, and for people to commend them on how great they are, and how they have (finally) finished construction shows people to be the sheep they truly are. I'd like to know why buses are not running on the right-of-way sections already completed, instead of sitting bumper to bumper in traffic, since people are also allowed to park on st.clair as well.
Kathy replying to a comment from Sky Captain / December 18, 2009 at 02:55 pm
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I don't know, it seems to work well in cities like Tokyo, Hong Kong, NYC,Washington D.C. But honestly, they can't compare to our wonderful city.

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